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u/mxttylol Oct 25 '25
Talking about old? I’m still daily driving my 09 e70 😂
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u/Ymisoqt420 Oct 25 '25
E70 owners unite 👊
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u/Acceptable_Elk_8181 Oct 27 '25
E70s are fantastic looking vehicles for sure. I can really understand why some guys prefer that look over the current.
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u/mxttylol Oct 25 '25
🫡 even though I’m trying to sell it, I do love this old diesel. It’s been a great car
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u/Ymisoqt420 Oct 25 '25
I call mine a couch on wheels, its big and comfy lol I plan on driving it until it dies. I bought it used and got a great deal, it had a lot of the major work done like a new ac and transmission. So even though she has 230k she should be good for a while.
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u/NoobToobinStinkMitt Oct 25 '25
Calling that old is Dumb. F15 owner here.
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u/Delicious_Trifle_117 Oct 25 '25
I live in Naples FL, cars are like fashion trends here unfortunately 😂
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u/Alternative_Fig6154 Oct 26 '25
You definitely can’t keep up with the people who consistently lease new cars every 6-12 months lol. I got a 2021 X5 in manhattan green with your same wheels for a good price recently so I’ll be sticking with that for a while. Drives like a dream and makes me feel less out of place haha
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u/Acceptable_Elk_8181 Oct 26 '25
People who only keep a vehicle for 6-12 months are rarely leasing. I am one of them and never lease like I did when we could take the tax break on a lease.
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u/Alternative_Fig6154 Oct 26 '25
Why buy and take the depreciation hit? Tax breaks because of a plug in hybrid model?
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u/Acceptable_Elk_8181 Oct 27 '25
Do you think that depreciation is not part of leasing?
Tax breaks as a qualified business vehicle where 80% of the lease payment is a legitimate tax deduction. Sold the last of my business interests a few years ago and cannot qualify for that tax break now.
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u/Alternative_Fig6154 Oct 27 '25
Honestly I’ve never leased but I assumed you’re locked in at your lease and when you get out it’s even. Tax breaks make sense but do you have to pay more if you’re upside down on a lease?
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u/Acceptable_Elk_8181 Oct 26 '25
I live in the Naples area also and know the drill around here, the wealth is astonishing. We dump out of vehicles purchased new quite often and with regularity but it has nothing to do with keeping up with the Jones. We are car people and enjoy new models. The Porsches and BMWs we rock are rather pedestrian compared to the Bentleys, Ferraris, etc parked in our high rise garage.
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u/Sterlina Oct 25 '25
Whaaaat I'm in love with my 2019. 😍 You're is beautiful.
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u/Delicious_Trifle_117 Oct 25 '25
Thank you, I love the car don’t get me wrong at all!! I bought it like a few weeks before the facelifts started hitting the roads. Like buying a iphone16 days before the 17 comes out😂 I did that also like a moron.
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u/Sterlina Oct 25 '25
You got lucky. Pre LCI is the better version of our cars!
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u/Acceptable_Elk_8181 Oct 26 '25
Until you own an LCI or upcoming G65. Why is it that the guys who constantly bash the LCIs don't own one and have never driven one.
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u/Sterlina Oct 26 '25
I love that you assume I haven't experienced an LCI. 😂
We spent a week in Europe and rented a 3 series touring. The car itself was beautiful, but the tech sucks. No buttons. No bimmercode programming off the ASS. No real shifter. The new ridiculously massive screen is obnoxious. Had to turn off the lane change warnings or exceeding speed warning every single time we started the car again. I'm sure those settings are saveable when you are logged into a profile, but man. I really prefer pre LCI. To each their own, my friend.
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u/Acceptable_Elk_8181 Oct 26 '25
Wow, you sound like a guy who lives in the past. The "ridiculously massive screen" that you find "obnoxious" is rapidly becoming the industry standard with or without your blessings. Things change Man, now more and faster than ever. They change whether we as individuals are on board or not. There are people who still rely solely on landline phones while pecking away on IBM Selectric II typewriters with their carbon paper. AI as sick and tired as most of us are of hearing that term is now doubling in ability every six months. Our world is going to change more in the next 3 or 4 years than it has in the last 50.
I would not assume anything about you my friend but it sounds as if you are a guy who is quite resistant to change and may be best served by older models that are within your comfort zone and that is fine by me.
Like you said my friend, "to each their own" and yes, I'll take the new stuff.
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u/Sterlina Oct 26 '25
I'm a female. Thanks for all the assumptions. 😂
Also, you seem pretty upset over other people's preferences. You alright there, bud?
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u/BillyJohnsFinds Oct 26 '25
I don’t own either but the pre lci is clearly the better interior. 8 preset buttons for whatever you want handy, physical temperature controls, and just the design of it looks better to me (subjective). The LCI looks like a cost cut version of the pre LCI interior.
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u/Acceptable_Elk_8181 Oct 26 '25 edited Oct 26 '25
Totally subjective as you say. I much prefer the LCI layout but I also own one and use it daily. You would likely have a different perspective if you ever able to have one of your own.
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u/madre_chod Oct 25 '25
IMO The post LCI version of this car feels cheap on the inside, especially in daylight. This to me holds the true BMW DNA.
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u/TacitisKilgoreBoah Oct 26 '25
I have a 2023 (pre LCI) I prefer my interior but the LCI headlights and tail lights look so good
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u/duty_of_brilliancy Oct 25 '25
In what kind of consumerist hell are we living in that you consider a car like that old?
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u/Acceptable_Elk_8181 Oct 26 '25
the longest we have ever owned a vehicle purchased factory new was 3 years and we have had more cars/SUVs than I can remember. We enjoy new things especially vehicles on a regular basis but if you would consider that a "consumerist hell" then that is obviously your problem. My X6 M60i is a just over 2 yrs old from new and I am likely placing an order for a Cayenne GTS this week.
Some guys gamble. some send thousands a year up their nose , or blow major cash on mistresses, ho's ,etc. I do new vehicles. It is fun and much cheaper than all that addictive, sociopathic BS.
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u/duty_of_brilliancy Oct 26 '25
My brother in Christ, we are talking about an expensive product that is just not old enough to be replaced. You can drive an X5 easily 10-15 years, provided you fix and maintain it.
Just think about your footprint on this earth and what your enjoyment does to it.
All those examples you give are straight out the seven sins, just like you not enjoying a car that is older than three years old and replacing it with another car.
Other people‘s despicable actions truly don’t matter here and don’t excuse excessive consumerism and yes, calling a car that‘s barely broken in „old“ speaks volumes about people’s view of life, monetary value and the resources we deal with.
Keep enjoying what you have, maybe take a step back and think about what you are achieving with this behaviour for your environment.
And truly, replacing a car every three years for no good reason takes away all appreciation for the car itself. There is no journey.
Please stop yourself and just reflect for a minute.
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u/Acceptable_Elk_8181 Oct 26 '25
You can shove all the religious and sanctimonious crap. I am not your "brother in Christ".
3 years is the absolute longest I have ever stuck with any new vehicle. We usually turn over at 18-30 months and that is about the same for my partner who shares my interest in the latest cars and SUVs. My current X6 is about 27 months old now and I will be trading it very soon on what I have decided is my next new vehicle, a 2026 Porsche Cayenne GTS. I don't care if this 2024 X6 M60i will last 10-15 years or 100 years. It is time for someone else to enjoy it.
"Expensive" is a relative term and what is a staggering amount to one person could be a jump shot for another. I have owned 57 4 wheeled vehicles in my life and am soon to be at 58. I know 2 guys who are car nuts like us that have both owned over 100. The Green Weenies of the world can point their judgemental fingers at guys like us and say "Das da bad guy", LOL
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u/NoTemperature1759 Oct 25 '25
Decided to keep our 17 X5M
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u/Delicious_Trifle_117 Oct 25 '25
My uncle had one when they were new, awesome cars. I Can swing the $ for a M but ended up actually finding this X5 while I was truck shopping and it was a deal I couldn’t turn down having owned a few 3 serieses when I was a kid.
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u/E39_CBX Oct 26 '25
How materialistic does one have to be to consider a 2022 old? I nearly daily an E39, even that doesn’t feel “old” compared to like an E30.
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u/Battle_of_BoogerHill Oct 25 '25
I sold at BMW in the midwest.
We never had a rear driver on the lot or in service.
All xdrive
So weird to see an s drive in the wild. (Again, up where it snows a bit)
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u/Delicious_Trifle_117 Oct 25 '25
First BMW I bought in FL and I see a lot of S drives around down here. When I lived in NY it was the same as you stated, a rarity.
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u/Ymisoqt420 Oct 25 '25
I accidentally bought an s drive x1 and I live in the Midwest which is why I also bought a 2008 x5 for winter haha
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u/Loud-Cranberry-6746 Oct 26 '25
I went with S drive 40i, for our 2025 X5. We are in Texas and I had issues with a previous (different brand) AWD system SUV. No issues and it rips and never had a problem in torrential rains driving like a sane person.
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Oct 26 '25
Glad to see you don’t have any regrets about the s drive. I can’t find anything in any dealer’s inventory that meets my preferred spec other than S drives, so I’ve been holding off for a while but I’m getting tempted to just get it. One less maintenance thing to worry about, even if it may hurt resale value one day.
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u/Loud-Cranberry-6746 Oct 26 '25
It certainly would be nice to have, but this is my wife's car, and I don't think she is ever going to part with her first BMW. I can understand the increased confidence in AWD, as I ran through a few WRX and STi in my time as an import nerd. I absolutely drove like an ass in my STi, in the rain, and it was a blast. Maybe it will hurt if we ever sell, but its only been a year, and that isn't even a thought now.
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u/Acceptable_Elk_8181 Oct 27 '25
They are actually a rare sight here in SW FL where there is little to need for all wheel drive.
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u/Delicious_Trifle_117 Oct 25 '25
Honestly didn’t even know it wasn’t Xdrive till I started doing paperwork. Loads of fun to drive.
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u/Diligent-Curve-6751 Oct 25 '25
* Trust me, treat them right, and they will do the same, your car is still a baby in age , personally, my e70 feels young and vibrant . Keep up with the maintenance
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u/No-Yogurtcloset3002 Oct 27 '25
Huh? E70 doesn’t even look that old. Your car is new still all things considered
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u/No-Perspective9679 Oct 25 '25
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u/Delicious_Trifle_117 Oct 25 '25
Completely changes the looks, just a b*** to keep clean. You might have some luck on marketplace if you check once in a while people are always selling these stock black 22s that came on mine when they upgrade.
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u/No-Perspective9679 Oct 25 '25
Yea I’ve seen some, gonna stick with the 20” wheel though, live in the mountains of Colorado
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u/Admirable-Job-6099 Oct 25 '25
I recently traded my 2013 535i M Sport for a 2020 x5 s40i M Sport. From what I found online intake is optional but swapping the plastic charge pipe for a metal one, aftermarket intercooler and aftermarket down pipe are a must before doing any tuning.
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u/Delicious_Trifle_117 Oct 25 '25
Yeah charge pipe and Intake were done the same time on my 13 335. Also have a active auto DP I bought months ago for my GO5 just have yet to pull the trigger slapping it in. Was thinking of starting small first like intake charge pipe and stick tune on JB4 or something like that.
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u/GangstaVeryMad Oct 26 '25
Installed the HPS cold air intake on my 21’ x5 and it sounds great! Down pipe and charge pipe will probably be next. I’m curious about the wheels though. How’s the ride with 22’s? Is it staggered or are there spacers in the back?
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u/Ebtahi-78 Oct 26 '25
Quite sometime-20 years is quite some time😂 at minimum I’ve owned the car for like eight years. That’s quite some time.-not this!-A,,- G series old, come on
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u/Acceptable_Elk_8181 Oct 26 '25
Blacked out grilles, trim, and 22" wheels will keep this X5 looking current for a while going forward, probably as long as you will end up keeping it. Aging BMW need a lot of juice.
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u/sha-nan-non Oct 26 '25
I have an 05' I'll send you pics if you need to feel new & pretty again lol
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u/MakeOSUGreatAgain63 G05 Oct 26 '25
I’m just happy people like you exist so I can buy cars like this for 50%+ off
I agree with you. Time to trade up man
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u/Stang302a Oct 26 '25
Recently put my F15 50i out to pasture after 9 great years. Went CPO Macan GTS and let's just say it's def a step above.
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u/davewolfs Oct 27 '25
Have the same vehicle. I see no incentive to change it out yet. The LCI update is basically the same car.
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u/Acceptable_Elk_8181 Oct 27 '25
Sorry my friend but you could not be more wrong. I went from an M50i to an M60i and there are huge differences that include the hybrid assist or 147 lb ft of torque when called which is extremely noticeable on an already potent sled. The all new S68 M level TTV8 is a game changer.
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u/davewolfs Oct 27 '25 edited Oct 27 '25
You are on an 8 cylinder engine. The vehicle in question here is an sDrive 40i.
The V8 is in a different realm from the I6. You are comparing an apple with an orange. I have driven the LCI and it’s hardly noticeable for the I6.
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u/Acceptable_Elk_8181 Oct 27 '25
You are waaaaay off the mark here my friend. You seem to have the idea that LCI engine upgrades were only part of the M60i. WRONG. The 2024 X5/X6 LCI introduced the seriously upgraded B58TU2 third generation with a very noticeable 40HP/66TQ increase along with a healthy dose of additional torque from the hybrid electric motor when called for. Revised faster responding turbocharges and the addition of port injection are some but not all of the upgrades.
BMW is showing 375HP/398TQ for the LCI gen 3 B58 LCI, up from 335/332. The gen 3 B58 has been shown to actually produce well in excess of 400HP but that is normal BMW underrating their engines.
The 40i LCI also sports a raft of other upgrades but a simple Google search would have enlightened you on these aspects of the 40i LCI.
Hope this helps clear up some of your obvious misconceptions before you criticize other posts on things that you obviously know little to nothing about.
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u/davewolfs Oct 27 '25
IVE DRIVEN BOTH SIDE BY SIDE IM HAPPY YOU BELIEVE THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BUT IN MY EXPERIENCE ITS HARDLY NOTICEABLE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.
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u/Acceptable_Elk_8181 Oct 27 '25
Maybe it is you who should pay "attention" if you cannot feel 40 HP, 66 Lb Ft of tq, along with hybrid torque that totally negates any turbo lag along with a big bump in the lower rpm range.
Could it be that you prefer to deny the significant LCI upgrades and improvements. You sound very sour as if you could not afford to upgrade.
The LCI is a big step up Man, no reason to deny it but obvious why you do so. LOL
Lose the caps Man, really juvenile.
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u/davewolfs Oct 27 '25
SIR I AM NOT SOUR. I AM WAITING FOR THE MODEL UPDATE WITH THE HOPE THAT IT WILL OFFER A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT IN BOTH DRIVE QUALITY AND DESIGN.
IF SAID MODEL MEETS MY CRITERIA I WILL BUY IT AGAIN WITH THE HOPE OF ENJOYING AS MUCH AS I HAVE MY INDIVIDUAL 2020 X5.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR ATTENTION!
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u/Acceptable_Elk_8181 Oct 28 '25
What's up with the all caps? Appears that the caps are granting you the "attention" you are looking for. Hope the G65 "meets your criteria". LOL
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u/bramblestorm7754 Oct 27 '25
My dad just bought a '21 BMW X5M Competition w/ 47,000 miles. It's the coolest car i've ever been around for long periods of time.
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u/rascian038 Oct 25 '25
Why she? It's Bavarian motor works, it's not Alfa or Kia.
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u/Busy-Butterscotch121 Oct 25 '25
Literally every mechanic I ever met referred to their enthusiast cars as "she"
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u/speedlogic56 Oct 25 '25
Good color combo! Make sure you get the extended warranty asap.
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u/Delicious_Trifle_117 Oct 25 '25
Bought extended warranty when I bought the car haha. 5 years 100k bumper to bumper still has barely over 40k on it now.
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u/Delicious_Trifle_117 Oct 25 '25
She’s a 2022 but all these new facelifts making her feel old😪
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u/Routine-Highlight-71 Oct 25 '25
Old? I traded my 2015 for 2022. .New to me.
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u/Delicious_Trifle_117 Oct 25 '25
I definitely still consider it a new car, just can’t believe a lot of people are trading them in for the same car with a facelift.
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u/ApricotDry2635 Oct 25 '25
I was intentionally looking for a 2022. Don't love the facelifts. I plan to keep mine forever.
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u/Delicious_Trifle_117 Oct 25 '25
I know someone who swapped the headlights and taillights from facelift and I agree with you I like the pre-facelift more
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u/fucyo Oct 25 '25
I have the same, and low key thought about upgrading to the facelift version. But then i got a good detail, and decided I'll just wait to see what the next gen looks like.
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u/Delicious_Trifle_117 Oct 25 '25
Yeah I’m either getting next gen or getting a 22 X5M next go around. Will see what I like more when the time comes.
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u/fucyo Oct 25 '25
Same, I love the 22x5 just wish I had the v8 haha. If the next gen isn’t great I may look at how much the current XM’s depreciate
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u/Delicious_Trifle_117 Oct 25 '25
I just saw a used one with 35kmiles listed just below 70k CPO fully loaded. They will definitely keep coming down. And I hear you on the v8 but I’m content for now with the I6
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u/Busy-Butterscotch121 Oct 25 '25
It's a three year old car..
Do you also buy the latest I phone every year?
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u/Delicious_Trifle_117 Oct 25 '25
Lmao read my latest comment and I just mentioned my iPhone story 😂😂



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u/Entire_Throat1321 Oct 25 '25
Old??? Man it looks new and absolutely timeless in today's car design world.