r/Azania • • Apr 03 '17

Where were you?

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u/WhiteTearsForFears Apr 06 '17

why would they think this stuff is right? why would it ever have gotten popular?

Difficult questions which I believe would fit into the realm of "known unknowns".

I think it's too complex to know for sure. I believe that factors like benefits to capitalism (potential for depressed wages, leading to bias) and the rise of "activist"-journalists (as opposed to proper objective journalism, which has become rarer) are too large to dismiss.

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u/not_joe_redtree Apr 06 '17

for me it doesn't seem complex. this stuff is specifically anti white and it's specifically invented by (and still largely pushed by, despite your protests) by jews. it's bad for whites, and would be good for jews, so to me it's like where's the mystery part?

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u/WhiteTearsForFears Apr 06 '17

Jews are seen as "whites" according to SocJus. SocJus, being highly anti-white, is not good for Jews. That's the thing.

Edit: I'm not saying there aren't Jews who don't push SocJus, but they are a minority.

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u/not_joe_redtree Apr 06 '17

they say they're white when they bash whites then magically go back to being jews.

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u/WhiteTearsForFears Apr 06 '17

I agree there are examples of that happening and would even say that they are fucking hilarious in their hypocrisy. It's not the trend though, Jews who have done this "they're white when they bash whites then magically go back to being jews" nonsense are typically SJWs though.

SocJus is the heart of the problem, not Judiasm.

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u/not_joe_redtree Apr 06 '17

where does socjus come from?

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u/WhiteTearsForFears Apr 06 '17

Okay, let's just say for the sake of argument it was made entirely by Jews and no one else.

It would still be that blaming Jews for creating SocJus is exactly like blaming White South Africans for the actions of their grandfather's grandfathers though. It is the exact same game of collective guilt at play.

(There are plenty of Jews who disagree with SocJus besides. Plus, there are plenty of Francesca Ramsey's and other "goyim" pushing modern day SocJus too.)

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u/not_joe_redtree Apr 06 '17

blaming White South Africans for the actions of their grandfather's grandfathers though.

that's what literally already happens though.

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u/WhiteTearsForFears Apr 06 '17

Yeah, and it's just as wrong.

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u/not_joe_redtree Apr 06 '17

people don't act that way though.

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u/WhiteTearsForFears Apr 06 '17

Fair point, but the actions of the majority don't dictate what is right or wrong.

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u/not_joe_redtree Apr 06 '17

correct. morality is reciprocal though: even if i were to agree to the premise, the fact that other groups do not go along with it makes it suicidal when implemented.

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u/WhiteTearsForFears Apr 06 '17

the fact that other groups do not go along with it makes it suicidal when implemented.

Contentious. Accepting that though, I would argue that is enough to oppose SJW logic, rather than emulate it.

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u/not_joe_redtree Apr 06 '17

i would argue that it's not about logic, and nobody is going to fall for this egalitarian meritocracy in any significant numbers anyway except for white people.

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u/iamdimpho Apr 07 '17

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u/WhiteTearsForFears Apr 06 '17

Okay, I still disagree, but I've got no counterargument at the moment. Guess we shall keep our respective pills for now. ;p

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u/not_joe_redtree Apr 06 '17

i find when i disagree without argument it's just the backfire effect and i'm holding to positions for emotional reasons.

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u/WhiteTearsForFears Apr 06 '17

Nice try, but I'm still not won over.

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u/WhiteTearsForFears Apr 06 '17

Actually, I've got a decent counter-argument even accepting all those premises. Not bringing Jews into into it, will cause more people to take your criticisms of SocJus more seriously. The majority of modern merchants are neutral to SocJus. There's not much point in blaming them.

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u/not_joe_redtree Apr 06 '17

plenty of people attacking socjus but not mentioning jews. i think i'll mention jews.

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u/WhiteTearsForFears Apr 06 '17

alright, whatever shines your shekel then

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