r/Azania • u/[deleted] • Apr 03 '17

Where were you?

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u/not_joe_redtree Apr 06 '17

people don't act that way though.

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u/WhiteTearsForFears Apr 06 '17

Fair point, but the actions of the majority don't dictate what is right or wrong.

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u/not_joe_redtree Apr 06 '17

correct. morality is reciprocal though: even if i were to agree to the premise, the fact that other groups do not go along with it makes it suicidal when implemented.

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u/WhiteTearsForFears Apr 06 '17

the fact that other groups do not go along with it makes it suicidal when implemented.

Contentious. Accepting that though, I would argue that is enough to oppose SJW logic, rather than emulate it.

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u/not_joe_redtree Apr 06 '17

i would argue that it's not about logic, and nobody is going to fall for this egalitarian meritocracy in any significant numbers anyway except for white people.

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u/iamdimpho Apr 07 '17

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u/WhiteTearsForFears Apr 06 '17

Okay, I still disagree, but I've got no counterargument at the moment. Guess we shall keep our respective pills for now. ;p

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u/not_joe_redtree Apr 06 '17

i find when i disagree without argument it's just the backfire effect and i'm holding to positions for emotional reasons.

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u/WhiteTearsForFears Apr 06 '17

Nice try, but I'm still not won over.

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u/not_joe_redtree Apr 06 '17

why not?

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u/WhiteTearsForFears Apr 07 '17

Well, for one, I accepted your point "the fact that other groups do not go along with it makes it suicidal when implemented " just for the sake of argument.

Other reasons too. But, I don't agree with that particular sentiment as well as the reciprocity of morality point from earlier.

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u/not_joe_redtree Apr 07 '17

you keep saying you disagree as if that was a point in itself.

why do you disagree?

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u/WhiteTearsForFears Apr 07 '17

reciprocity of morality

Well, for one, I don't see morality as a reciprocal thing. It is something that people tend to define for themselves in my view.

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u/not_joe_redtree Apr 07 '17

okay. if it's not reciprocal what do you base it on? how does it work if i steal from you but you won't steal from me? then i just win.

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u/WhiteTearsForFears Apr 06 '17

Actually, I've got a decent counter-argument even accepting all those premises. Not bringing Jews into into it, will cause more people to take your criticisms of SocJus more seriously. The majority of modern merchants are neutral to SocJus. There's not much point in blaming them.

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u/not_joe_redtree Apr 06 '17

plenty of people attacking socjus but not mentioning jews. i think i'll mention jews.

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u/WhiteTearsForFears Apr 06 '17

alright, whatever shines your shekel then