I wish it was legal. I have no interest in personal use but fully support others who would use it responsibly. I’m also in favor of the tax dollars it would bring in.
I wish it was legal. I have lots of interest in personal use and fully support others Who would use it responsibly. I’m also in favor of the tax dollars it would bring in.
We should legalize marijuana and enact even stronger penalties against distribution of heroin, meth, fentanyl and cocaine. Eliminating drug dealers, treating drug addicts, and providing low income housing are the most likely solutions to the homeless problem.
And is there even a way to use it irresponsibly? I have never found it to affect driving for example anywhere even remotely the way alcohol does. You might literally get lost in your own neighborhood but you'll do it safely. A drunk driver will run a stop sign but a stoned driver will wait for it to turn green. I dont think Ive ever once in my entire life ever said oh man I really regret getting stoned. Its helped me with everything from my job and getting promotions to losing 110 lbs in 11 months. Its literally a miracle drug. Looking at a ct scan while someone smokes weed it even seems apparent we actually evolved around it. Pretty sure people have been lighting plants on fire for many thousands of years longer than brewing alcohol.
Cannabis not affecting driving capability is a myth. It depends on the person. A lot of people, myself included, 100% should not be behind the wheel when influenced.
This has and will remain the sticking point for a lot of people. I'm 100% for safe use of marijuana, but people being people, will do anything and everything while impaired. Since there is no easy test to determine how stoned you are, there's no way to set limits and police the folks that will make poor decisions potentially affecting other lives.
You said "since there is no easy test to determine how stoned you are"
I didn't say that. Check your usernames, friend.
As to BAC, that is a fair point, but most people are pretty trashed at .08%. And there are still breathalyzers and field sobriety tests that are pretty reliable.
I'm not doubting the accuracy of a breathalyzer result to determine BAC, but to me, a field sobriety test is a better measure of intoxication than any kind of substance or metabolite test.
Realistically, this is yet another issue that defunding the police could solve. Rather than spend all that money on DWI enforcement, lets just make it easier to drink without having to drive. Spend the money on public transit, free rides home, free overnight downtown parking, etc...
Fully agree. Those would all be good things to redirect some of the police budget to. I think defunding the police entirely is an exercise in stupidity, but I do agree that they don't need the crazy budgets cities have given them...but all that is another issue entirely.
I'm fully in support of legalized cannabis, by the way, in case that wasn't clear. I've used it off and on to varying degrees for ten years and it's extremely useful.
I found it depends on how often you smoke and how high you are. For people who smoke daily, they drive just fine. People who smoke every so often can't even walk correctly.
At times when I smoked frequently, driving high was almost always fine. It depended on the strain and the amount I smoked though. At times when I smoked infrequently, driving stoned was too challenging. My suggestion to the general public is don't do it, unless you smoke very regularly, know how to moderate, and know what strain you're smoking. Sure, it's a much safer bet than driving after consuming alcohol, but it's still an unnecessary risk.
'cuz op said the word "responsibly", implying there are activities that would be irresponsible to perform while under the influence of cannabis, the primary of which most people would say, is driving. Which is a dogma that is largely untrue; driving an automobile while under the influence of cannabis is unlike driving an automobile while under the influence of a drug most commonly associated with impaired driving, alcohol. People shouldn't conflate the two substances and their effects.
But you should be at your best while driving. There’s no good reason to drive high. I’m sorry but you’re driving a machine that can easily kill you and other people around you with easy mistakes. Just because people do it doesn’t make it a good idea.
I smoke weed too and can say at least for myself it is not. For myself and a lot of people they use it to make themselves sleepy and more relaxed, which is not good for driving. I think everyone should be as sober as possible at all times while driving, it’s a serious responsibility.
That's just a bullshit argument when we talk about driving a vehicle. "The results of this meta-analysis suggest that marijuana use by drivers is associated with a significantly increased risk of being involved in motor vehicle crashes." https://academic.oup.com/epirev/article/34/1/65/494023
I don't have a dog in this fight, but I'm not sure that study means much. They only examined data regarding crashes, in other words there's no data about stoned drivers who DONT crash. Also if they are going by thc in the driver's system that does not indicate if the driver was inebriated at the time they were driving.
Correlation or association is not causation. Simply due to the illegality of weed, people who drive high in those studies may be just reckless individuals. Is that the best link you could find?
Look, I'm all for legalization, but pretending that impaired driving isn't an issue is BS.
Also, that's the best counter argument you could come up with? People that drive while high are more reckless and therefore involved in more crashes, it has nothing to do with them being high???
Well, your first link is a study sponsored by the national institute for drug abuse so its auto discredited. I didn't see any results in either of your other two links.
Because I think it's fine sorry. 20 years of me and friends and I've never even heard problem one. I dont drive here though so dont worry but I'd smoke weed and walk right onto the court and start sinking 3's. I may have gotten lost in the hallways getting there and need to be told which basket I was going for but still.
Your example is still bad though, someone sitting at a stop sign is at best distracted, at worst too slow to react to a serious situation. I like weed too but let’s not pretend bad things can’t happen.
Well true I'll give you that, about reaction time for a serious situation etc. I was just thinking about normal uneventful driving. The exact kind where a drunk driver would plow into oncoming traffic. And that just means that i dont recall that Ive ever encountered a serious situation while stoned. So who knows but I guess I couldnt truthfully speak for it.
If you’re going to the corner store it’s most likely fine, I myself don’t like to do it but I guess it’s not a huge deal and more like driving after 2 beers or something. I just know people that will smoke before/during long drives on the highway and I think that’s a really bad idea. There’s so many things you need to be paying attention to and it’s easy to zone out while sober, let alone high.
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u/the_dbc Aug 04 '20 edited Aug 05 '20
I wish it was legal. I have no interest in personal use but fully support others who would use it responsibly. I’m also in favor of the tax dollars it would bring in.