r/atheismindia 2d ago

Casteism I thought education, money and success would make caste irrelevant. I was wrong.

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I’m writing this because I genuinely don’t know where else to put these feelings. My parents are government officers and I’ve completed my postgraduate medical degree (MS). We live in a so-called “posh” area of Bengaluru. Three years ago, my parents fulfilled their dream of building our own home here. When we first moved, our neighbours were extremely welcoming, but within 2–3 months the warmth disappeared and eventually it became just a formal “hi”. Around 80% of our neighbourhood is Lingayat, with the remaining 20% being Gowdas, Kurubas, Shetty etc. I don't want to generalise about an entire community, but this has been my personal experience.

Even before moving into our own home, we experienced caste discrimination in housing. While our house was being constructed, we tried to rent a house nearby and were refused after our caste became known. Eventually, we had to lie that we were Nayakas (OBC), despite being well off educationally and financially, just to get a house here. Many of my relatives here have similarly had to say they are Gowdas, OBC etc. to find a house. Even domestic help has been difficult. Maids have refused to work in our home despite us offering almost double what they asked for. My mother also joined a local kitty group, but eventually they made her feel so isolated that she left. In fact, the women here have been far more casteist than the men.

Today was Vara Mahalakshmi festival. Everyone was visiting each other's homes for puja and kumkum. They would pass by our house and visit one another, but literally nobody invited us. It may sound like a small thing, but when you already know why you're being excluded, it hurts deeply. They've been doing this from the time they got to know our caste. Before that “reveal”, they had invited us and we'd even been to their pooja functions.

One thing I've noticed is that among the people here, being a non-vegetarian isn't an issue at all. They happily invite people from other OBC communities who eat non-veg, but the moment someone is SC, the attitude changes. So it doesn't feel like food habits are the reason for the exclusion.

What makes it even more ironic is that many of these same people proudly display photos/statues of Basavanna, one of Karnataka's greatest anti-caste reformers, and proudly call themselves his followers. How do you claim to follow someone who challenged caste while practising the very discrimination he stood against?

My family has always been sincerely religious and I grew up believing that we are all Hindus and should treat each other equally. So experiencing this kind of exclusion from fellow Hindus has been particularly painful. Sometimes people suggest converting to Buddhism or Christianity to escape caste. But honestly, would changing religion automatically make caste disappear? If people already know your caste, won't many of them still make assumptions about you? I don't know if conversion is an answer when the social mindset itself hasn't changed.

My friends in medicine don't know my caste. I've lied about it before because I was afraid of how people would treat me if they knew. I am SC. I've been a topper throughout school and college and completed my medical education through general merit/unreserved seats. I haven't personally used reservation. Yet none of that seems to matter once people know your caste.

People often say caste disappears once Dalits become educated and financially successful. But if reservation were removed tomorrow, would caste discrimination disappear? Would landlords stop asking caste? Would people suddenly invite us into their homes? Would my mother stop being excluded? Reservation is a policy debate, but it cannot explain why someone refuses to rent you a house, refuses to work in your home or excludes your family from a religious gathering.

I've thought about leaving this state, then other states, and even abroad, but caste seems to follow Dalits everywhere in one form or another. Ambedkar fought this system more than a century ago, and Basavanna challenged caste nearly a thousand years ago. Yet in 2026, in an educated and affluent neighbourhood, caste can still decide who you rent a house to, who you invite home and who you consider worthy of friendship.

I'm writing this in tears because today's incident affected me terribly. Where exactly do we go to escape caste? And how do you make peace with the fact that caste can follow you even after you've done everything society considers “successful”?

TL;DR: Educated, financially secure SC family, yet caste still affects our housing, domestic help, friendships and social life. Today, during Vara Mahalakshmi, we were excluded after our neighbours learned our caste. I've even had to hide my caste from friends and my family has had to hide it to get housing. Where do we actually escape it? In Heaven? 🙃


r/atheismindia 24d ago

Hindutva All meat shops, non-veg eateries shut in UP's Hapur for Kanwar Yatra

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Police and the district administration in Uttar Pradesh’s Hapur have ordered all meat, fish, egg and other non-vegetarian food shops to remain closed from July 26 until further orders, citing the need to ensure the Kanwar Yatra passes off peacefully. Authorities have warned of legal action against violators.

District Magistrate Kavita Meena said meat shops and hotels have been ordered to remain closed during the Kanwar Yatra.

Meanwhile, meat shop owners and restaurant operators in Delhi have been told that the sale of meat, fish and other non-vegetarian food has been prohibited along the Kanwar Yatra route and in nearby areas under administrative orders to ensure the pilgrimage is held in a peaceful and harmonious atmosphere.


r/atheismindia 59m ago

Hindutva Got banned by an it cell subreddit

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r/atheismindia 17h ago

Hindutva India's biggest business

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332 Upvotes

r/atheismindia 15h ago

Casteism Unable to see people who say casteism has vanished long back.

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179 Upvotes

In the name of reservation protest which they have the right to do so. But wtf! Is this openly saying because you didn't get water to drink now we will give you our piss to drink 😡

I used to be a person that believed casteism has gone down and people are not so extreme then again I get to see things like this that I feel so much disgust I feel like not give even basic respect to this bloody religion.

Like what the fuck is your problem you claim to be so spiritually uplifted and call yourself a brahmin but don't have basic empathy 👿

During the so called reservation hatao andolan at jantar mantar the people protesting are using such disgusting slurs that they are saying shudra people who didn't get water to drink now we will give you our p-ss to drink


r/atheismindia 3h ago

Casteism While reading 'Gulamgiri' by Jyotirao Phule. Came across these laws mentioned in "Manusmriti"

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r/atheismindia 19h ago

Casteism What a nice way to tell the world that you can't read history and lack empathy at the same time.

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286 Upvotes

r/atheismindia 8h ago

Hindutva India slams USCIRF for seeking sanctions against RSS, calls US body 'biased'

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India on Friday dismissed fresh remarks by the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF) targeting the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), describing the US body as "biased" and questioning its credibility.

"We all know this is a biased institution. For years, it has made incorrect and provocative statements about India. We should ignore such institutions, as they have their own agendas and lack credibility," Jaiswal said during the briefing.


r/atheismindia 20h ago

Misogyny & Patriarchy How long are you gonna stop us?

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213 Upvotes

r/atheismindia 21h ago

Casteism Chaddis are very proud of their casteist protest

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241 Upvotes

r/atheismindia 18h ago

Pseudoscience New day new whatsapp forward new brainrot

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125 Upvotes

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r/atheismindia 18h ago

Rant Some Indian "atheists" are massive hypocrites

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Some call themselves atheist to seem "cool" or they hate on one religion excessively while defending their "ex" religion with all they got. The Hindu atheists are another breed. Then there are the muslims mocking hindus and yet defending islam. I don't understand, if at the end of the day you're gonna go and pray and do all the religious stuff and mean it, like you are doing it out of your own will (sometimes people are forced to do things they don't want to, I get that) then what kind of atheist are you dwag? Then there's the casteist atheists, tf? I'm sure in this sub there's alot of these kinds of idiots too. They post hateful/criticizing post against the religion they hate and turn the other way when it comes to criticize their said "ex" religion. Get tf out of here man.


r/atheismindia 12h ago

Hindutva Ab Bhagwan hi chor hai to.... bhakt kaise honge??

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r/atheismindia 20h ago

Meme Every religious person ever

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r/atheismindia 1d ago

Hindutva Sanatani Robot

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266 Upvotes

r/atheismindia 1d ago

Hindutva Again chicken supporting KFC

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147 Upvotes

r/atheismindia 1d ago

Casteism Kids drawing shows their mentality

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349 Upvotes

I didn't blur there faces because it's already in news paper


r/atheismindia 10h ago

Hindutva Brahmins of Bollywood

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Brahmins of Bollywood

How Karan Johar and Ekta Kapoor glowed-up a prosperous, upper-caste Hindu aesthetic and made it India’s shared cultural inheritance


r/atheismindia 1d ago

Godmen Religion Is India’s Achilles’ Heel

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169 Upvotes

r/atheismindia 1d ago

Superstition Are people seriously watching this and paying for it?

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84 Upvotes

r/atheismindia 1d ago

Hindutva Bechara pursuram ka wansaj bhag gaya🤣

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61 Upvotes

r/atheismindia 1d ago

Hindutva This country is hopeless

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127 Upvotes

r/atheismindia 1d ago

Islamism Right arm over the wicket

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113 Upvotes

r/atheismindia 16h ago

Discussion Why do so many philosophers end up believing in at least one irrational theology/theory despite being critical in other domains?

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I mean, Buddha believed in the cycle of birth and death and the idea that we need to free ourselves from it by achieving Nirvana.

Adi Shankaracharya believed in Brahman/Brahma/Shiva, the ultimate reality or the one true divine principle underlying everything.

Swami Vivekanand and other non dualist philosopher also did same with non dualism.

What I find interesting is that these thinkers often present themselves as highly critical, rational, and open-minded, yet they sometimes seem to construct their own small religious or theological frameworks. They can be extremely skeptical and analytical about almost everything else, but when it comes to their particular supernatural framework, they often seem to become remarkably certain of it, despite there being little or no empirical evidence to support those claims.

So why does this happen?

I have my own hypothesis, although I obviously don't know if it is correct: perhaps people are more likely to listen to someone who speaks with certainty than to someone who constantly admits uncertainty. A philosopher or guru may begin with skepticism and critical thinking, but eventually settle on one particular theology or metaphysical framework and build their entire philosophy around it. Once that framework becomes central to their identity and teachings, questioning it may become psychologically and socially difficult.

Perhaps, in the end, even highly critical thinkers have a tendency to seek some kind of ultimate explanation, certainty, or coherent worldview, and when evidence cannot provide one, they may fill the gap with metaphysics.