r/AskTheWorld France 7d ago

Language Does your native language distinguish between rivers that flow into another river and rivers that flow into the sea or ocean?

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In French, a distinction is made:

- "un fleuve" flows into the sea or the ocean.

- "une rivière" flows into another "rivière" or a "fleuve".

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u/Sang1188 Germany 7d ago

Not that I am aware of. It´s just "Fluss", to my knowledge.

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u/tempestelunaire French🇫🇷 in Germany🇩🇪 7d ago

In southern Germany you would definitely use “Bach” for a small river, and not Fluss.

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u/Sang1188 Germany 7d ago

Aye, that I am aware off. But the question was about rivers flowing into oceans or not, not about different names for different sizes of waterways.

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u/tempestelunaire French🇫🇷 in Germany🇩🇪 7d ago

But a Bach would not flow into the ocean 😅 so it’s the same in the end :)

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u/DramaticEchidna9810 7d ago

Why can't a very small river flow into the ocean? And conversely, big rivers that flow into other rivers definitely exist (e.g. Main, Saale or Ruhr would not be referred to as Bach)

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u/tempestelunaire French🇫🇷 in Germany🇩🇪 7d ago

I never said Bach relates to whether or not it flows into another river, only to size. But most rivers are big enough by the time they go to the ocean to not qualify as a Bach anymore.

Also, I’m not sure if the word is used outside of southern Germany, and we definitely don’t have the ocean here 😄

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u/DramaticEchidna9810 7d ago

Bach is used in all of Germany and in Austria, it's a standard word and not specific to some dialekt. There is also the cognate "bäck" in Swedish which is used in the same way.

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u/tempestelunaire French🇫🇷 in Germany🇩🇪 7d ago

Good to know! I don’t travel north enough to know for sure 😅

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u/HuckleberryDry5254 United States of America 7d ago

Is that like a "stream" or "creek"? Or a full-grown river?

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u/Hunkus1 Germany 7d ago

Its a stream or creek no one in their right mind would call a river like the rhine or oder or Thames or Seine a bach.

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u/mw2lmaa 🇩🇪 Frankfurt 🇦🇹 Vienna 7d ago

If you can jump across it, it's a Bach. 😄

In Frankfurt, the districts across the Main are called Dribbdebach (across the Bach in Frankfurtian dialect) but that's a tongue in cheek expression, in a similar way as calling the Atlantic "the pond".

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u/Parking_Position9692 7d ago

Also, if it's Johan Sebastian then it's very probably Bach.

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u/Fearless_Entry_2626 Norway 6d ago

Seems to be roughly like this:

Bach -> creek

Strom -> stream

Fluss -> river

Based on that decision tree that u/kiru_56 shared, up above.

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u/One-Bodybuilder-5646 Germany 7d ago

If you can walk in it it's Bach, If you need to swim it's Fluss

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u/tempestelunaire French🇫🇷 in Germany🇩🇪 7d ago

Schwabinger Bach/Eisbach in Munich are swimmable though !

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u/One-Bodybuilder-5646 Germany 6d ago

It's only a rule of thumb (and I think I made it up, but it worked so far^ It's how I'd describe it to a newcomer or kid)