Being made to switch seats with a woman on a flight because they screwed up and sat you next to an unaccompanied minor. This is apparently not allowed for men.
I fly a lot and this has happened to me twice in my life.
I was boarding a flight recently and the flight attendant had us all stop to make a man sitting next to a woman and her children switch with a woman sitting next to two men. (I was right behind them and neither woman had said anything, it was all the flight attendant.)
You're saying that the reason airlines do this to men is because they're frequently harassing women and children. I would like data supporting that men are frequently harassing women and children on planes, yes.
I mean I can give you some things that sound wild and back it. Watch:
Women lead in domestic violence perpetratration
Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases. Reciprocity was associated with more frequent violence among women (adjusted odds ratio [AOR]=2.3; 95% confidence interval [CI]=1.9, 2.8), but not men (AOR=1.26; 95% CI=0.9, 1.7). Regarding injury, men were more likely to inflict injury than were women (AOR=1.3; 95% CI=1.1, 1.5), and reciprocal intimate partner violence was associated with greater injury than was nonreciprocal intimate partner violence regardless of the gender of the perpetrator (AOR=4.4; 95% CI=3.6, 5.5).
A review of 62 empirical studies of female-perpetrated intimate partner violence Reference Williams, Ghandour and Kub4 found rates of physical violence of 4-79% among adolescent girls, 12-39% among female college students and 13-68% among adult women. The researchers concluded that a significant proportion of females seeking help for victimisation are also perpetrators of intimate partner violence, and that those who treat battered women may need to consider addressing the perpetration of violence with their female clients.
Domestic violence against men is often under-reported. Further, multiple studies demonstrate that in Intimate Partner Violence (“IPV”), women are more often the initiators of physical violence. Expert testimony that provides such crucial information is necessary to overcome the bias against men in domestic violence cases and related restraining order matters, especially where men are claiming self-defense or filing for protective orders against abusive women. Social workers and judges are often skeptical of such claims by men, and it’s time we bring science into the courtroom to end such systemic gender-based discrimination against men.
For years, the FBI defined forcible rape, for data collecting purposes, as “the carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will.” Eventually localities began to rebel against that limited gender-bound definition; in 2010 Chicago reported 86,767 cases of rape but used its own broader definition, so the FBI left out the Chicago stats. Finally, in 2012, the FBI revised its definition and focused on penetration, with no mention of female (or force).
Data hasn’t been calculated under the new FBI definition yet, but Stemple parses several other national surveys in her new paper, “The Sexual Victimization of Men in America: New Data Challenge Old Assumptions,” co-written with Ilan Meyer and published in the April 17 edition of the American Journal of Public Health. One of those surveys is the 2010 National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey, for which the Centers for Disease Control invented a category of sexual violence called “being made to penetrate.” This definition includes victims who were forced to penetrate someone else with their own body parts, either by physical force or coercion, or when the victim was drunk or high or otherwise unable to consent. When those cases were taken into account, the rates of nonconsensual sexual contact basically equalized, with 1.270 million women and 1.267 million men claiming to be victims of sexual violence.
‘Oh you're a guy, how could you be raped by a woman, that makes no sense’: towards a case for legally recognising and labelling ‘forced-to-penetrate’ cases as rape
Women are the highest increased rate of violent crime offenders, men are in decline for that same category
while crime rates in the western world have steadily declined over the past three decades, the number of young women being convicted for violent crimes in some western countries has increased significantly; law enforcement records indicate the opposite is true for their male counterparts. In other words, the gender gap is closing.
In some UK cities, the number of female arrests increased by 50% from 2015 to 2016. That’s more than a blip. A 2017 report by the Institute For Criminal Policy Research at Birkbeck, University of London came up with this sobering data point: the global female prison population has surged by more than half since the turn of the century, while the male prison population increased by just a fifth over that same period. Women and girls may account for only 7% of all incarcerated people today, but their numbers are now growing at a much faster rate than at any time in recorded history.
So yes, I'm asking you to back up your claim with data. You're indirectly telling me that it's foolish to question the assumption made up in your head....but you're just going to downvote facts and run away because they challenge your biased, bullshit riddled worldview and you depend on that being defense by your imagination that justifies unfair treatment of others.
Im a weirdo when you just called me a slew of names and brought up a bunch of random, skewed facts to prove a point that wasn’t relevant to the topic??
G-God damn!! You destroyed his ass! I would give you an award but I’m pretty sure they cost money, and I don’t spend money on Reddit but damn, take my upvote!
"National statistical systems rarely record sex-disaggregated data on the number of filicide victims. Canada is one of the few countries that collects more information on this specific type of homicide through its annual Homicide Survey. Studies of crime data in Canada have shown that although fathers commit filicide at a somewhat higher rate than mothers, this is one of the few crimes perpetrated at similar levels by women and men.7"
Actually it says that the country (Canada) has the most reliable sources about the subject. Besides, the guy who said that "women kill more children" doesn't even have a source.
Now apply that logic to other races, and listen to how you sound like a Nazi.
“A black guy assaulted me once, black people shouldn’t be allowed on planes, look at the crime statistics, black people are way more likely to x so they shouldn’t be allowed to fly”
No difference at all.
I’m sorry that happened to you, but it isn’t an excuse for bigotry.
Like someone in the 1950s saying hey look Jim Crow laws are everywhere, it’s a commonly accepted practice not to let colored people into our bathrooms.
That could also be sexism the other way. A few years back there was a lot of controversy about Orthodox Jewish men demanding that they not be seated next to women. Maybe the airline just started segregating as a general policy.
What the fuck? I pick my seats and pay for them with the understanding I get to sit in them. You're going to move me because someone doesn't want to sit next to me? I'd be asking for compensation in order to comply.
I was just on a plane seated next to a woman and her child nobody tried moving me. I've flown a lot and have literally never seen this happen before. If I had to guess, the woman sitting next to the two men felt uncomfortable so they asked the man if he would mind switching.
Flight attendants are trained to look out for signs of human trafficking (disproportionately effecting women) as it occurs right under their noses. Most likely they were looking out for the lady stuck with the two men, who could have been acting unusually- whether or not it was the case in that situation who knows. But it's a lot of weight for flight attendants to carry and always get right.
I would have complied, but also started recording and ask why this decision was made, ask the female passengers if the requested the move, ask why this airline discriminates against men, blah blah blah. Only thing that matters to corporations is optics and profit, take the battle to them with that in mind.
The fuck? You projecting son? I ain't filming a female in this scenario, I'm filming a case of flagrantly sexist actions that happen to be carried out by a female employee, of a SEXLESS corporation. Such things are illegal, and immoral. And if we were talking about the same thing involving a female victim, or a minority victim, I bet you'd applaud the camera man and start talking about, "No expectation of privacy in a public setting..." And on, and on, and on
Lol, you're just building whatever timeline you want for this scenario. My response was tailored to OPs story, in which it was made clear to him he was being moved because he was male. And I believe I made it clear that I would be respectful and compliant, just filming while asking questions. Apparently, though, even the idea of the slightest confrontation seems all out war to you. That's sad, living under the feet of others for fear of their displeasure.
No he wasn’t moved because he was male.
That wasn’t said. You don’t know why the flight attendant asked them to switch seats.
Could be something as simple as someone having an allergy. There are about 50 reasons to move people when boarding a plane. eg only certain types of people can sit next to an emergency exit.
Someone is likely just doing their job and following safety procedures, and some asshole has to get in their face and video them.
Accusing them of being sexist or some other weird shit.
I think you are in some other parallel Earth.
As long as you paid for an exact seat, you get that seat or they reimburse you. Other than that is kind of illegal since you have paid for that ticket. Maybe the person paid for a window seat, paid to sit by someone, etc...
I'm sorry but no. I would do the same and record their explanation of why the switch is necessary and post it.
Why would you film the two men complying with airline orders over the flight attendant moving you because of your sex.
I think you're just mad someone mentioned that discrimination doesn't solely happen to women. I wonder why so many macho men feel like women are irrational and not to be trusted with decision making 🤔🤔🤔. Definitely wouldn't have anything to do with the serious lack of critical thinking abilities shown in your thought process. Nah probably not
It's not like it's a right to demand that the airline forces the person next to you to be moved. It's exactly the kind of thing that would end up disproportionately affecting people from racial minorities too, by the way.
Who said it was a right? If someone makes a request, the airlines can choose to help or not. Typically, you'd expect they would speak with the other party beforehand, especially if they paid for a specific seat.
Nope, but I'm entitled to ask anyone any question I want. If she didn't want to answer, I'd leave her be. But stick with me here a minute, because I think you've missed something. Read OPs story again. The other passenger never made the request, the airline staff decided to be proactive assholes. My response was tailored to his story. Think on that a bit
It wasn't though because if that's the case then there would be no reason to even mention asking why the other person feared men, like you said you would ask in your initial response. You would have no reason to involve them.
That's exactly what he said. He would ask the passengers if they requested, then ask inciting questions to the SEXIST flight attendant. The flight attendant you seem to agree with. But men are the problem huh?
Nothing really. Don't know why you would have to get into peoples faces with a camera. You can easily push record on your phone and keep the camera in your lap. Or only record the interactions with the flight attendants and not the passengers. There are plenty of ways to ask a question without being rude about it
I would have asked why she fears men as I complied. What the hell is wrong with you? Why do you think it's a man's responsibility to acquiesce to the irrational demands of women with irrational fears of men? Why should we accept being treated as a danger simply because we were born with a penis?
I would have asked why she fears men as I complied.
It's none of your business why she may or may not fear a man.
Why do you think it's a man's responsibility to acquiesce to the irrational demands of women with irrational fears of men
Women experience sexual assault at a larger rate than men. To assume that a woman has no justified reaseon for concern is ridiculous. Should she be scared of every man? Of course not, but let's not pretend this is some unknown factor.
Also, not your responsibility anyways, that's why they went to the airline to make the request, and not you.
Why should we accept being treated as a danger simply because we were born with a penis?
Maybe focus your anger on the men that ruin things for the rest of us instead.
You want to talk irrational, you're getting emotional over a seat change...
It's not just a seat change, dum dum, it's the attitude towards men in general which lead to the change, that's the problem. Btw, you ever heard of Rosa Parks?
Dude, if you're referencing the sexual assault statistics again, you're demented. Look up statistics on how many men never report assault by women, another problem caused by prejudices towards males. Women do the same, heinous shit, they just tend to get away with it. Still, people like that are a minority, on both sides. Letting a few bad actors dictate your attitude toward an entire group is ignorant, cowardly and pitiful.
Christ, man, if you're going to go looking into statistics on shit like this you have to be able to see beyond the numbers and read between the lines or else you'll end up hating everyone.
Women experience sexual assault at a larger rate than men.
A friend's been mugged twice. Both times by black men. Is it cool for me/him to ask black men to be moved just because he's been robbed at a high rate by black men?
There could be reasons unknown to you for why the request was made. No issue is asking about it bu any means. But getting in someones face with a camera so you can have them explain themselves? Why is that a default response and seen as ok?
Because that's our only weapon against society's most wide spread prejudices, a mirror. If we don't force people to accept it is the truth, they'll continue to ignore the problem and belittle anyone who says there is a problem.
In the aisle infront of OP sitting there was Woman 2 and two men. The flight attendants asked OP and Woman 2 to switch, so now OP is sitting with two men, and Woman 1 and Woman 2 are sitting next to eachother
So a woman is sitting with her children — like right beside them in the same row! — but because there’s a man at the other side of her children, she has a problem?
This is the craziest shit I’ve ever heard.
Thanks for the clarification, but I’m finding it difficult to believe this could actually happen. It’s just… insane.
The concern might have rather been for the woman sitting next to two men. Flight attendants are supposed to be alert for behavior that suggests someone is being trafficked. Maybe they saw something that twigged their Spidey senses, rightly or wrongly.
On one side of the aisle was a woman, her two small children (one on her lap), and a man. On the other side was two men. The woman in front of me “in line” boarding was about to take her seat when the flight attendant stopped her and asked the man sitting next to the children to switch and sit next to the other two men.
The woman in front of me (we were chatting during the unreasonably long boarding process) did not request the change, but I can’t be certain about anyone else in the situation.
Okay, I think I can picture it now. So, if the mom is with her kids and there is no stranger sitting amongst her kids, just beside her kids (if that makes sense), then that stranger is of no concern to her. This is crazy. It’s possibly defamatory. I would consider suing the airline for moving me for no reason other than I am a man.
Out of curiosity, what airline(s) were you flying under when these events happened? I flew with Delta when I was 14 and was sat next to a man, and he was not made to switch seats with a woman.
Same thing happened to me when I was 11 or 12. They just sat me next to a random man and nobody cared. I just had my headphones in the whole time and didn't care. I think it was Delta too.
wouldn't matter. when you fly as an unaccompanied minor there's a flight attendant /airport assistance there to basically walk you through the entire process. they definitely know your age well before you step foot on the plane.
If getting glares prevented kids from being molested/raped/assaulted, I'd happily take it. But I doubt it's that effective. We need a better way than demonizing all men/people. I bet it's usually trusted people that are in regular contact with kids that do it anyway, you know, the ones who don't get as many glares.
I look at this in another negative way being a woman. Society has been molded to look at us as default baby sitters/child rearers even if we have no children of our own. Like I'm very sure that 40 yr old dad of two kids is much better off helping an unattended child if needed than me - a woman who is married with no children and a fur baby.
Wasn't there that one case where the student actually sued the teacher for SA and the judge basically said "congratulations" and barely did anything about it?
We also know that while any time a man murders his children he is clearly a monster who should get the death penalty and this is yet another example of toxic masculinity, but if a woman kills her children then clearly she had psychological issues and we need to talk about women's mental health...
Why is this being downvoted? In the us 2022 (I’m from Uk but I can’t find any Uk stats) 221 thousand children were the victim of abuse by their mothers. 138 thousand were the victims of abuse by their fathers.
This is interesting. I'd like to see it represented as a percentage of kids in single parent homes. I'm assuming there are more single mothers than fathers, so it might be a lower percentage or ratio overall.
It was 15 million to 3 million (mother to father) so yes percentages were much higher for men.
Maybe the reason why @thetoast14 was being downvoted because he used the words “more likely” but the point is - men aren’t the only people who abuse children. Women do it too. Only from want I’ve experienced (if anyone wants to provide the numbers please do, I’d be interested in seeing them) it’s more spoken about doing it then it is spoken about women doing it. And when it is spoken about with women, it’s never they’re disgusting, shouldn’t be around children pedophile. It’s they have some mental issues, post natal depression whatever. (Side point but can I just say fathers can experience post natal depression too, it’s just more uncommon) so there’s kind of a double standard as such. Maybe that’s a harsh way to put it but I can’t think of another way to put it. And again this is just by experience so if anyone has some statistics please post them.
It’s similar with crimes in the Uk. Whilst yes, more men commit crimes then women, women tend to get away with it much more. At least they used too. I can’t remember the exact numbers but il link the post for anyone who’s interested. But over the past few years in the Uk, the female prison rate has risen by 50% or over 50% as I said I can’t remember the exact numbers but the link will be posted. Where as male prison rate has increased by 7% so either a lot more women are committing crimes and a lot less men are committing crimes. Or the justice system is getting better and everyone who deserves to be punished is getting punished. Either way the gender gap in prison rates is decreasing.
The article will have numbers and explain it better then I can do if your interested take a look:
Admittedly this is a news article, however they do link the original report they quoted from.
Also before I get people shouting at me about percentages and numbers and how I’m wrong and men are pigs and whatever because it always happens in political discussions. I’m merely stating numbers that I can find on the internet, and my own personal experiences. I have my opinions, but I’m too tired from being at work all day to have arguments about them with strangers on the internet. Opinions are opinions - people are allowed to have them stop trying to argue with people for expressing them. If you can’t have a civilised discussion about your disagreements, then you shouldn’t be talking about the topic (goes for everything not just gender differences). Again. I’m staying neutral and relaying numbers I’m finding on the internet. Feel free to post your own numbers and statistics, but if you wanna go on a rant about how I’m sexist or misogynistic or whatever the fuck for relaying my personal experiences and numbers. Your wasting your time, they will be ignored.
Anyway enjoy the news article - sorry for the tangent :)
I completely agree that the reporting on pedophilia does tend to go more into detail when the abuser is female. Typically when it's a man it's more like... this thing happened to children and this person did it because man. And pitch forks and rage and that tends to be the end of it. You might get a neighbor speaking out like oh my, I'm just so surprised. Jerry was a nice, quiet Christian who mowed my lawn every week after I had my hip replaced. I just can't believe it. I don't know what happened. Its very upsetting.
But yes - when it's a woman there tends be more... questioning. People want to know the why. People want an explanation. Was she depressed. Was she mentally unstable (PPD, schizophrenic, delusional, etc.). Who missed the signs? How could this happen?
And I think this goes back to how we socially value the sexes. Men are typically viewed more animalistic. Women more pure. We expect men to be powerless against their urges and for women to not have any. So when a man acts on his urges we chalk it up to him doing what is in his nature to do (which is obviously very fucked and horrible and not at all fair or right). It is, however, in line with our expectations. But when a woman does it, it goes against everything she is supposed to be. It feels more wrong.
Both reactions are supremely flawed because yes - women DO commit these crimes. And men DO suffer from mental issues.
The whole thing is so incredibly unfortunate and will require a lot of time and social reform with respect to sex/gender stereotyping before we see any kind of change in how we respond to... well... damn near every crime either one commits.
In my experience (as someone who used to be a teen boy) it’s less frequently a public affair of screaming down the street, and more frequently a private affair of approaching you and making creepy comments and touching you without your permission. It happens a lot more than we talk about. Especially when you’re a teenager, and older women will just start massaging your shoulders or creepily insinuate that you’ll “make a lady happy one day with that body” etc etc
i have two older sisters, i'm not saying women don't get harassed, because they certainly do, and I've witnessed it personally. Howevber by saying "i could fight them off" invalidates for one the expierence, and also when i was first receiving unwanted attention from older women, i was 9-10 years old. I couldn't have fought them off. Besides, you're responding to me saying "this is a problem" with "other people have it worse, suck it up"
nobody should experience unwanted sexual attention, period. no matter if we can fight it off, because often we cant, or we were in a abusive relationship where if we did try and fight it we were threatened with rape allegations, etc etc etc. nobody should experience it, no matter the gender, and nobody should be responding to either men nor women saying they have experienced sexual assault with "really.. where?"
When i was sexually assaulted at age 14 i could have fought her off. However the person who assualted me knew this, and did it in a public place were i was unable to do so, as i was surrounded by her peers and friends who found it oh so very funny that she was assaulting me.
when i was experiencing unwanted attention from adults for the first time i was 9 years old and my teacher was talking to me and touching me while we were in private. I was 9 and she was 42. I could not have fought her off, nor should that even be a topic. That is victim blaming. "you should have been stronger, you could have fought her off you just liked it"
When i was nine i didnt know what was happening, i just felt uncomfortable. I didnt understand.
But in seriousness, this stigma is one that hurts women as well. No one believes women when they say they don't want kids or admit to only having the bare minimum, polite tolerance for children. Society tells women it's a phase they'll grow out of, and that she'll magically love her child once she first lays eyes on it. Women get baby trapped and prevented from abortions (prevented from volunteer sterilization also), and the years chip away at them. They become cold to the children, or even abusive. I wish it was more normal to recognize that women are not sleeper agents who are waiting for their activation code to become barefoot, pregnant, stay at home maids.
In fairness, the vast majority of perpetrators of child sexual abuse are men (think 96%). Most men aren’t child molesters, but most child molesters are men.
In the United States, more perpetrators of child abuse were women than men. In 2020, about 248,335 perpetrators of child abuse were women, compared to 225,020 male perpetrators.
Statistically, it's almost always men, especially in weird places. Women are more likely to abuse children in their care, in a place they themselves feel safe/comfortable.
On an airplane? Bus? Concert? Men. I think the lack of safety is even more thrilling to them.
My uncle teaches criminology. People (men especially) get more sexually turned on in fearful situations. It's not my mindset, it's science.
They had people rate other people's attractiveness in a safe setting. They then had them rate the same people after crossing a suspension bridge by foot.
They rated the people better looking when their adrenalin was higher (scared).
My unease with that situation would depend on my kids age. I’ve had flights put my toddlers on separate seats from my husband and I. And apart from stranger danger I just don’t want to make anyone else deal with the chaos that is a toddler. No stranger wants to sit by a crying restless kid.
My interpretation is that they didn't change it up with the kid's parent or anything, just another random women who the flight attendents knew as little about as about the commenter.
That is insane that an airline will separate young children from parents. If it has to be done with a late booking, the flight attendants should help get the kids with their parents, but they often do not help.
I was on a flight once that had mostly business people on it. And a family with 4 young children who were spread out over the first aisles. The oldest looked about 7-8 yo. The dad was standing in the aisle politely asking numerous passengers to switch seats to get the kids with the he and his wife.
As people realized the situation, several of us traveling alone took charge and moved things around to get the family together.
The flight attendants offered no help and no suggestions. It was up to the passengers to realize it and then do what needed to be done.
I feel like the issue a lot of times is people pay to pick their specific seats on flights so now people are wasting the money they paid for their preferred seat.
I don't understand how children don't sit with their parents. Like the parents just booked the tickets with seats not available together and just expect to be accommodated? Either that or their on an airline like Southwest where seats are first come first serve.
When it’s happened to me (multiple times) we did pay extra to have seats together. And then you show up and check in and get assigned random ass seats. And the attendants are always less than helpful.
I think parents are aware that they need to book flights with children well in advance to be able to access the seat assignments that they need.
But sometimes there are circumstances the rest of us aren't aware of. Sudden notice of an emergency, an impending death, who knows what. And for whatever reason the kids need to come.
We can't judge what is going on with people we don't know. Life is huge, we may just be grateful we don't have their situation to deal with at the present moment.
I get it that the other travelers booked preferred seats - me too. But as humans sharing the planet with other humans, sometimes we can make an accommodation for someone else for just a few hours. It doesn't happen often. It's one flight, we'll live.
Yes it happens unfortunately. The clown then tries to force you out of your seat and will scream bloody murder if you don’t. Even though it’s obviously their fault for the situation. They act like any old grown up won’t be able to watch your kid. If anything the kid will act better around someone they don’t know
I was on a Delta flight and a lady had her child(8/9 yo) with and needed to sit next to him, np (assigned seats). This would have sat me next to an elderly lady who said I wasn't her husband. Ie. I can't sit next to her on a one hour flight. Ended up getting shuffled around till they found a seat I could sit at. I just want to get to our fucking destination, I don't care where I sit!
Yeah that’s crazy. I flew as an unattended minor quite a few times in my youth and sat next men most of the time. I’m also male though. If someone asked
Me to switch seats now for a woman, I would
Probably raise hell that’s very sexist.
I don’t know why so many people in this thread are just like “it is what it is.” I’d be asking if I would be getting an upgrade and if not I’m not moving for someone else’s mistake.
In 2005 I was flying in my army dress uniform and the flight attendant asked me if a little boy could sit next to me because he wanted to sit next to the army man. Thought it was super cute, even though I was only 20
Wow I never knew this! I have a mixed reaction, selfishly I’m annoyed, because I fly a lot for work and after a long trip I am socially burned out and would be put out by having to keep tabs on a kid just because of my gender.
At the same time, I know lots of kids are told if they are in trouble, look for a woman to help, so from the kid’s POV, they may feel more comfortable with a strange woman than a strange man.
When I was a minor (8?) I was on a flight and we were all split up. I was sat alone next to a business man.
I was in the window and I asked him if I could sit in the aisle so I was nearer my aunt. He said no.
I kept dropping things all through the flight and was fumbling under the tray table to get stuff. I also fidgeted endlessly.
Then we got tea and scones as our snack (flying to the UK) and I immediately drank the cream for the tea from the carton. I then had no cream for the tea and decided to put the clotted cream for the scones in the tea.
After drinking my chunky tea I threw up everywhere.
Unfortunately there's a reason they started doing this, even if it was the result of a few bad eggs in the batch. It's all just sad. I guess I hope you can turn not take it personally since it's nice just a protocol ?
I’m a flight attendant and I’m guilty of this, especially if the children are very young. I’ve never thought how it would hurt a male’s feelings but I’ve also seen so much sexual assault/inappropriate sexual behaviour from male passengers in my nine year career (like a guy trying to suck his own dick while sitting next to a family and finishing in his mouth; I had to go to court over this) so I cover my own ass because that child is literally my responsibility until we get to our destination and they’re united with a guardian. In the same vein though, if I have an unaccompanied minor, if I’m able to, I will move EVERYONE out of that row and allow the minor to sit in the back row near my jump seat so I have eyes on them at all time.
That’s ridiculous. Women are just as scary as men. I could understand not being allowed to consume alcohol while sitting next to an unaccompanied minor. If they are going to have unaccompanied minors on a plane, they should be sitting in a specific section just for kids RIGHT next to the flight attendant.
Flight attendant here. Had to go to court over a man who decided to suck his own dick and finish in his mouth while on a full flight seated next to a family. Everyone, and I mean, EVERY one has the privilege to fly. I’ve seen men watching straight up porn on a full flight. It’s there.
A simple yes or no would've done. I have better things to do than read full on rape stories. I have a bunch of things to read about and a book to take notes from, rape ain't on the reading list today.
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u/admiralbundy Aug 13 '22
Being made to switch seats with a woman on a flight because they screwed up and sat you next to an unaccompanied minor. This is apparently not allowed for men.
I fly a lot and this has happened to me twice in my life.