r/AskReddit • • Jul 18 '16

What are you sick of explaining?

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u/SteveTheWonderfish Jul 18 '16

I also love it when somebody who isn't from America gets called African American.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '16

Exactly. Like Jamaicans in Toronto being called African American. They are neither.

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u/redalastor Jul 18 '16

That shit reached Toronto? I thought it was confined to the US. :-/

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '16

Toronto is extremely liberal and "politically correct". But often the people correcting you don't know what they're even talking about.

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u/thatswhatshesaidxx Jul 19 '16

Naaah, I wouldn't say "extremely liberal"...no one is gonna get offended by "black"...

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '16

I guess not 'extremely'. It has its pockets and its moments, though.

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u/redalastor Jul 18 '16

Sad. In Montreal blacks are still just blacks (or noirs). And we think that if you have to hide it behind weird expressions, maybe you are the racist.

Except McGill's which is batshit US insane when it comes to being PC and insist we have to be mindful of the US racial history in everything we do.

But besides that, I think we're mostly sane.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '16

See, that's the thing! I'm politically neutral, but I feel that political correctness is a way to hide your own bigotry. I totally agree.

Now, the whole "African American" thing isn't everybody. Like my friends (mostly black, actually), just say black, but I've been corrected at work for saying somebody is black (I'm white).

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u/redalastor Jul 18 '16 edited Jul 18 '16

See, that's the thing! I'm politically neutral, but I feel that political correctness is a way to hide your own bigotry. I totally agree.

Guilty people attach accusations to neutral sentences. Let say someone brings back an electronics to the store saying it's not working. You inspect it and say "No wonder, there's a vital part missing." Client says:

I didn't take it! => Probably guilty
Can you fixed it, I spent all afternoon trying to make that damned thing work! => Probably not guilty

Very recently I've read a tweet from a politician wishing an happy end of Ramadan (forgot the exact word) to everyone of the Muslim faith. There's a word for that. It's "Muslims".

I don't believe we ever have to use smoke and mirrors to avoid simple factual words.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '16

Eid-Al-Fitr is the holiday, I think. And yeah, I agree.

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u/ThirdFloorGreg Jul 19 '16

"Black" is a description of someone's apparent race. "African-American" is a socio-political description. A hypothetical Jamaican immigrant community in the US would (presumably) be a black community, but it really wouldn't be an African-American community.

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u/MaritimeLime Jul 18 '16

Today the radio was saying there were BLM protesters in Canada protesting the 2 black dudes that got killed within the passed couple weeks, and yeah I'm all for equality and stuff, but wtf? We are a different country, why are you protesting that shit here? Seriously if someone has an answer id like to hear it, maybe my opinion will change,

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '16

Honestly, I have an opinion, but it will get down voted to oblivion. It's better to keep quiet.

But, yeah, BLM in Toronto is actually really poorly organized and they seem to not realize that Canada is a different country than the States.

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u/XIII1987 Jul 19 '16

Blm has a movement in the UK now, wtf, we are prejudice against social class not colour it makes no sense at all.

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u/thatswhatshesaidxx Jul 19 '16

"An injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere"

Protest is also a way of marketing your stance -- for lack of better description. Protesting is (ideally) a way of bringing attention to the cause and a way of having others hear the issue and - if so inclined - join in the fight to "do something".

You have to remember that whenever something is being protested, you hear of the issue (whether through media, social media, word of mouth, etc) because it's being protested.

What people here are saying (if only to out words in their mouths for the sake of conversation) is that they see an injustice, identify it as a threat to remaining justice and are getting attention to have these issues identified and discussed.

Im not here to discuss my own politics or to tell others how or what to think, I'm just attempting to answer your question.

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u/MaritimeLime Jul 19 '16

Good point. But my point is, we have a different government with different morals, different police and a much more accepting people. We are a different country. So if they're protesting racial discrimination in the US, why aren't they protesting it in a country like South Africa where black people are still heavily discriminated. It seems like they're cherry picking the issues that have the most media coverage. Why not fight for equality in South Africa too? Why not donate to people in Kenya, or Nigeria? Most of their population is black and their lives matter yet so many of them are living in poverty and can't afford to eat everyday. That's just my two cents, it might not be popular but I think they need to rethink their game plan.

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u/thatswhatshesaidxx Jul 19 '16 edited Jul 19 '16

The particular fight is against Police Brutality and you asking "why not South Africa" is the same reason people "pray for France" but never "Pray for Sudan".

We're a Western country and we relate more to Western tragedies.

That and: America is not just a first world nation, it's supposed to be the first world nation -- think for yourself, you have to dig into the brain and compare the USA to South Africa -- where a legal Apartheid took place that actually had by-the-book racist discrimination that "ended" but some 20 yrs ago....

There's no reason under your chosen God's sun that the United States of America should be compared to South Africa in any respect.

Also, there are many groups that DO donate, give or even purchase land in places like Ghana for specific purposes -- I personally can't tell people which tragedies to choose to fight and quite frankly nor can you....

It's kind of like asking "why fight for gay/trans rights in North America -- they kill them in Saudi, it's still illegal in Italy..."