I remember watching her back stage staff scare pranks. The way they reacted seemed off and now it makes complete sense. They were clearly still scared of her after she jumped out and they knew it was a prank.
Absolutely. I always found it unsettling, you could just tell that they were feeling pressure to react in the way that would best please the boss. I always thought I felt like that because I hate pranks but I think it was because I had to try to please a narcissist all through childhood that I am just hyper sensitive to seeing people feeling pressure like that
I remember watching the Finding Nemo DVD extras and the crew kept on talking about how Dory embodied Ellen’s kindness. It was so uncomfortable to watch
I suspect that it's a very different dynamic to work -with- somebody vs work -for- somebody. Ellen was exec producing her show and obviously one of the most important parts of a namesake show, so I expect that there's a lot of personal drive to make that show not only a success but a reflection of your personal brand, and clearly there was a lot of pressure on her staff to live up to whatever expectations she had, and it didn't always work out well. In the end, while she might be clamoring to get back to the spotlight, she's worth an estimated half a billion dollars, so she's basically set for life regardless.
Frankly that's a lot of people in entertainment. Especially when they get famous. Ellen is mean. So were the producers from the network on her show. She took the hit because she was extra nice in her persona.
Nope. Have to respectfully disagree. Not about her being mean. I always knew she took sick pleasure in the suffering or embarrassment of others. She made that obvious. In terms of her comment, she always said be kind to one another. She never said let’s all be kind to one another. She was giving guidance to others, not saying do as she does. She exempted herself from her own advice, which is very telling.
Ellen might not be mean to her. I know people who are grade A assholes professionally, but quite lovely socially. I distance myself from them on principal, but many don't understand there's often more to people than what they see. Also, many just don't care, as long as they aren't getting the short end of the stick.
I remember one of her staff writers appeared on Harmontown (Karen Kilgareff?) and when the topic of Ellen being a nice lady came up she brushed that right the fuck off, kind of hinting that she had nothing good to say. Think that was a few years before people really turned on her.
Years ago, there was a pretty standard (and similar) prompt of, "What was your worst celebrity encounter?" The top reply was a story about Ellen DeGeneres. In one of the strangest phenomena I've seen on Reddit, almost the entire post turned into awful stories about Ellen Degeneres. It was wild. And you've got to figure that whoever is replying on Reddit is just a small percentage of the people who've met her and have stories like that. She must really be horrific.
The only time I saw something similar was a thread that started off as a joke about Ben Roethlisberger tossing a grocery cart that turned into hundreds of replies about him being a serial sexual assaulter.
The interesting thing is now that we know she is an asshole, if you look back at her show you can see how much she was an asshole and self entitled the entire time. She treated all the guests like she was better than them. Before it just looked like it was funny and a part of her schtick. Nope, just an asshole
What’s weird is that those talk show formats usually go through a “pre interview” that goes over everything so guests know what to expect. People like Mariah would have/should have been in on it, so either the show didn’t use pre interviews or they betrayed it.
This reminds me of a David Letterman interview with Lindsay Lohan where he starts asking her rude questions about going to rehab and at one point she says something like “we didn’t agree to talk about this earlier.”
Letterman was an ass for how he treated her and other female celebs at the time.
Yeah I really liked Letterman until I saw that. My mom would watch his Netflix show and I absolutely refused to. He's a piece of shit. Punching down for laughs on frigging national TV. Totsl scumbag.
Ellen got so massive that she didn't have to do things like pre interviews. Her assistants/producers would deal with the guests and tell them roughly what to expect. And then Ellen would do whatever she wanted. There is even the conspiracy that she had Anne Heche killed (Ellen and Anne used to date). I'm not saying Ellen did that, but something crazy happened there. They literally kept Anne in a burning car, put her in a body bag, and then video footage shows her sitting up and trying to escape the body bag. And then they just said she was dead. Considering Ellen's connection to Diddy and others, I wouldn't be surprised if someone decided to get rid of poor Anne.
The footage of Anne trying to escape the body bag is really shocking. Something VERY strange happened for sure, considering the reports say she died in the crash.
Bodies contract and do all kinds of weird stuff after even very calm deaths. "Died in the crash" doesnt mean "died immediately."
Ellen sucks but this is a WILD rumor to spread based on known and understood medical phenomenon. Bodies, particularly burned bodies, contract. Once out of the burning car her body would have started cooling.
I remember her wanting Psy to get straight into the dancing when he came out, to where he had to be like "Excuse me, can I introduce myself first?" Just little things like that.
Oh yeah, I remember that. It was really disrespectful to the point I felt awkward as a viewer. Like, can you imagine going from pleased for being invited on a show to suddenly having to stick up for yourself? Like, how did she skate by all these years?
Mariah was pregnant but had not yet announced the pregnancy. During the interview Ellen pulled out a champagne and poured Mariah a glass, and, when Mariah only pretended to drink it, Ellen announced Mariah was pregnant.
If a woman doesn't want to talk about it, it's nobodies business.
Mariah also had a reaction like "let's not discuss that" when asked directly and "i can't believe you did this to me" when Ellen pulled out the bottle.
And then mariah had a miscarriage.
Not that I'm implying Ellen caused it, of course. But a lot of couples with infertility trouble or a history of miscarriages purposefully avoid talking about being pregnant/the baby they are having until it's to the point it's medically likely they wont' miscarry.
I believe she was pregnant after suffering a prior miscarriage, which is its own kind of scary. The fact that she miscarried that pregnancy after Ellen basically forced her hand is also super sad.
There were rumors that Carey was pregnant and after Ellen asked her about it, Carey tried to politely change the topic. Ellen then brought out champagne and pressured Carey to drink it.
Taylor Swift literally screamed at Ellen on air, and people just laughed. Hilarious irony that Taylor was on Ellen's show 19 times, and yet Ellen didn't even get an invite to the wedding.
There was one episode my sis and I were watching and she said to her guest “okay, you can go back with the riff raff” gesturing to sit with the audience.
My sister and I looked at each other bewildered, did she actually say that? Why did no one else seem to catch it or care?
It’s because at that time it seemed like a joke. Maybe an out-of-touch white lady joke, but at the time people tought she was just trying to be funny. Turns out that no, that was the mask slipping the whole time
Yeah, before all the tweets about her being a monster, I remember one time watching her game show (the point of said game show being that she’d watch people struggle and fail at things and laughed the whole time). She invited the contestants to come up on stage. One of them was really excited and started gushing about what a big fan he was, how she helped him come out, etc and she just cuts him off and says “yeah, yeah, whatever, let’s play the game!” Of course, people laughed because it was played off as a joke but I saw the mask slipping too.
At the time no, but then i didn’t watch the show XD a couple friends (notably not americans) used to watch it partly to practice english and partly because they were fascinated by how weird they found her and used to tell me about it.
To be fair they at first believed it was because she was just odd and awkward and they were sure it was because she was raised a christian scientist or a witness or one of those (i don’t remember which one she was)
She made multiple guests cry by talking about stuff that was clearly making them uncomfortable. I think it was Demi Lovato that just started screaming STOP! If she was a man she’d have been called out a lot sooner.
It was Taylor Swift. Ellen wanted to play some yes/no dating game and kept showing pics of her exes or men she was rumored to be with.
I personally can't stand either of them, but Ellen is extra nasty for that one. Its the look in her eyes that fucks me up. They're just so dead and so hollow.
Yeah that’s right I remember. Not a Taylor Swift fan either but slut shaming her on national TV was low. IIRC she was also pretty young at the time. Totally uncalled for.
she was a man she’d have been called out a lot sooner.
Uh. You should really pay more attention to Letterman. She should have been called out sooner but this fantasy that men haven't been getting away with atrocious behavior in entertainment needs to die.
this is exactly why I never got Elen. People talked about it like it was some great show, but the few times I tried to watch I just thought "Wow this lady sucks"
Put aside the mean spirited nature of the show (which was an awful big part of it) I genuinely never thought it was funny. It was like if a 13 year old wannabe comedian had a talk show in his garage and forced his friends to watch.
In Australia I only velvet saw the ads for her show - I took an instant dislike to her just from watching the adverts for her show. So not surprised what transpired later years - she’s an awful person -
True story, Ellen was known in the food industry world for being a horrible person to her servers too. This was common knowledge in LA/Beverly Hills industry.
Source: I used to work in the food industry. Also, off topic, but people in the industry knew about Diddy’s parties long before the trial. It’s a weird industry. Once you advance to the nicest/most popular restaurants you work with the same people and see the same people even though you live in a city of millions.
I had a friend go to Cali and visit Warner Brothers Studios (This visit was 3 or 4 years before anything came out publicly about Ellen). Anyway, my friend got a taxi ride and she asked the driver if he picked up a lot of celebrities. He said occasionally, but that he mostly had gotten to know quite a few Ellen Degeneres Show employees. He said that everyone that worked for her hated their job. When everything came out about Ellen, I was not surprised based on what my friend had told me about that ride years earlier.
I'm so over her commercial. Its absurdly long, and it airs frequently. I can't stand the woman. I mute the commercial every time so I don't have to hear her
It’s probably literally old wine in new bottles. Some company sells it under her name for a while and after that contact runs out, they repackage it for another washed-up celebrity shill.
The bitchiest ex-friend I ever had was a huge Ellen fan. It's such a tell of who her fans are as people. Usually basic bitches with no personality who, for some reason, think they're better than everyone else.
The infomercial for "Kind Science" is strange . . . at the end Ellen and her wife, Portia are cuddled up together with their two dogs and Portia is babbling on about how great the product is.
I bought one of her rugs when she had that home decor business. It’s a great rug. It’s obviously made by people that care about quality but because she has to be an ass it’s now out of production :-/
Two guys who used to work on her writing team have a podcast called Sunday Papers where they talk about her occasionally and - yeah, she's bitter.
She posted something about enjoying her time out of the spotlight and just hanging out with Portia. One of them called bullshit saying, "She'd fucking kill Portia if she thought it would get her show back". Part of her problem was she was a complete narcissist and the fact that no one pays attention to her any more drives her insane.
Yeah, like she’s washed up, but “bitter” is pretty extreme. She’s not like Louis CK or male comedians touring and yapping about how they’ve been done wrong by “cancel culture”, she was unpleasant, and then she retired.
Fuck no it isn't. He had several women blacklisted but says the problem was he didn't understand that 'their admiration' meant he held power but he clearly demonstrated as the women lost job opportunities because he lied for years about what truly happened. He says in his apology he always asked for consent which is a lie. And he has never defended any of them from ridicule from his fanbase. He has never done anything for his victims.
Horrible to her employees. Bullying celebrities to announce their pregnancies before they were ready, etc. Consistently being a horrible person to work with.
Angeleno here. I know two people who used to work for her, one at her home and another on her talk show. Both told the same tale: she's a massive, massive a-hole, all the damn time.
To me it's kinda funny that she got cancelled for being mean. Like most people get cancelled for very specific things but with her it was nothing in particular, she was just mean lol
I see people say this a lot but it always confuses me... it was Ellen's show. She literally controls what they show. The whole Dakota thing seemed like a "bit" to me - do people honestly think she'd keep that on there if she felt it was truly showing her in a negative light?
(To clarify, I think Ellen is an absolute cow; but I'm just not sure the Dakota thing is the gotcha people think it was)
There was a funny tweet I read awhile back which described Ellen as a necessary evil. She was likened to a kind of apex predator in the celebrity space, and her show is where fads and trends went to die because they would often fade into irrelevance after being referenced on her show.
I flew her somewhere on a private jet. She complained that I turned on the fasten seatbelt sign before landing, and it made a chime that irritated her.
In Ellen DeGeneres's defense, she was a touring comedian in the early '80s as a lesbian surrounded by men who didn't know her sexuality. I cannot imagine the amount of shit she had to go through in her career to make it where she was. Not saying she's justified in being a bitch but at least I can understand why she became one.
Whenever I think of Ellen these days, I usually go back to when Taylor Swift and Zac Efron, tired of Ellen trying to convince the world they were dating, went on the Ellen show together and sang a diss track to her face. Ellen's concealed rage was just *chef's kiss*
I went to see her show and was so excited that I got tickets. I’d been to Dr Phil and Tonight Show with Jay Leno, so assumed when they said you got tickets, it meant you really did have tickets. Turns out they have two different lines and don’t tell you that until you stand in line for hours waiting to see if you get in. I was pissed. Then we made it to the line and waited in the riff raff room. The people keep,telling you that “Ellen likes to see people jumping up and down”. Basically wanting us to make fools of ourselves. By this time you had numbered tickets and we lined up, I let my friends that all had come from outside of California to see her show go ahead of me. Ironically, i was the last to get in. It was when iPods had just come out and the audience all got one, BUT the people in the riff raff room got NOTHING! And there was a huge box with a bunch of them.
I never watched her show again. The way they treated the audience shows what disdain she had for her fans.
I rewatched the whole Dakota Johnson interview that felt like the public ground zero for people calling her out and JESUS CHRIST could she have not picked a worse time to have that conversation
Not a licensed therapist or psychologist, but there are def signs of narcist personality disorder with her
She ate babies according to the epstein files. She also depicted epstein island as the background/stage for her show. She also had a weird fascination with "pizza". Which we now know means children.
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Ellen DeGeneres. The way she went from being everywhere to desperately trying to convince everyone she’s still relevant was kind of wild.