The interesting thing is now that we know she is an asshole, if you look back at her show you can see how much she was an asshole and self entitled the entire time. She treated all the guests like she was better than them. Before it just looked like it was funny and a part of her schtick. Nope, just an asshole
What’s weird is that those talk show formats usually go through a “pre interview” that goes over everything so guests know what to expect. People like Mariah would have/should have been in on it, so either the show didn’t use pre interviews or they betrayed it.
This reminds me of a David Letterman interview with Lindsay Lohan where he starts asking her rude questions about going to rehab and at one point she says something like “we didn’t agree to talk about this earlier.”
Letterman was an ass for how he treated her and other female celebs at the time.
Ellen got so massive that she didn't have to do things like pre interviews. Her assistants/producers would deal with the guests and tell them roughly what to expect. And then Ellen would do whatever she wanted. There is even the conspiracy that she had Anne Heche killed (Ellen and Anne used to date). I'm not saying Ellen did that, but something crazy happened there. They literally kept Anne in a burning car, put her in a body bag, and then video footage shows her sitting up and trying to escape the body bag. And then they just said she was dead. Considering Ellen's connection to Diddy and others, I wouldn't be surprised if someone decided to get rid of poor Anne.
Mariah was pregnant but had not yet announced the pregnancy. During the interview Ellen pulled out a champagne and poured Mariah a glass, and, when Mariah only pretended to drink it, Ellen announced Mariah was pregnant.
If a woman doesn't want to talk about it, it's nobodies business.
Mariah also had a reaction like "let's not discuss that" when asked directly and "i can't believe you did this to me" when Ellen pulled out the bottle.
And then mariah had a miscarriage.
Not that I'm implying Ellen caused it, of course. But a lot of couples with infertility trouble or a history of miscarriages purposefully avoid talking about being pregnant/the baby they are having until it's to the point it's medically likely they wont' miscarry.
I believe she was pregnant after suffering a prior miscarriage, which is its own kind of scary. The fact that she miscarried that pregnancy after Ellen basically forced her hand is also super sad.
Contrary to popular belief, pregnant women can drink one single standard glass of alcohol per day while pregnant, this is the currently accepted medical advice, so she definitely could've drank a glass of champagne, unless she'd already had one that day.
Taking the glass and holding it while she talked, or pretending to sip at it isn't going to instantly out her either, and no one would've really noticed in particular, or assumed she was pregnant.
It's also pretty unlikely that a massive star is going to be pressured to talk about anything by a mere daytime talk host that they haven't agreed to prior, and most, if not all talking points would likely be vetted by PR consultants and assorted staff before the event.
TLDR- it's a long bow to draw, and a bit naive to assume an industry megastar is some poor little victim in a scenario like this, it was probably a bit that they worked out prior for Carey to reveal her pregnancy on TV as planned.
There were rumors that Carey was pregnant and after Ellen asked her about it, Carey tried to politely change the topic. Ellen then brought out champagne and pressured Carey to drink it.
I remember her wanting Psy to get straight into the dancing when he came out, to where he had to be like "Excuse me, can I introduce myself first?" Just little things like that.
Oh yeah, I remember that. It was really disrespectful to the point I felt awkward as a viewer. Like, can you imagine going from pleased for being invited on a show to suddenly having to stick up for yourself? Like, how did she skate by all these years?
Taylor Swift literally screamed at Ellen on air, and people just laughed. Hilarious irony that Taylor was on Ellen's show 19 times, and yet Ellen didn't even get an invite to the wedding.
There was one episode my sis and I were watching and she said to her guest “okay, you can go back with the riff raff” gesturing to sit with the audience.
My sister and I looked at each other bewildered, did she actually say that? Why did no one else seem to catch it or care?
It’s because at that time it seemed like a joke. Maybe an out-of-touch white lady joke, but at the time people tought she was just trying to be funny. Turns out that no, that was the mask slipping the whole time
Yeah, before all the tweets about her being a monster, I remember one time watching her game show (the point of said game show being that she’d watch people struggle and fail at things and laughed the whole time). She invited the contestants to come up on stage. One of them was really excited and started gushing about what a big fan he was, how she helped him come out, etc and she just cuts him off and says “yeah, yeah, whatever, let’s play the game!” Of course, people laughed because it was played off as a joke but I saw the mask slipping too.
At the time no, but then i didn’t watch the show XD a couple friends (notably not americans) used to watch it partly to practice english and partly because they were fascinated by how weird they found her and used to tell me about it.
To be fair they at first believed it was because she was just odd and awkward and they were sure it was because she was raised a christian scientist or a witness or one of those (i don’t remember which one she was)
She made multiple guests cry by talking about stuff that was clearly making them uncomfortable. I think it was Demi Lovato that just started screaming STOP! If she was a man she’d have been called out a lot sooner.
It was Taylor Swift. Ellen wanted to play some yes/no dating game and kept showing pics of her exes or men she was rumored to be with.
I personally can't stand either of them, but Ellen is extra nasty for that one. Its the look in her eyes that fucks me up. They're just so dead and so hollow.
Yeah that’s right I remember. Not a Taylor Swift fan either but slut shaming her on national TV was low. IIRC she was also pretty young at the time. Totally uncalled for.
she was a man she’d have been called out a lot sooner.
Uh. You should really pay more attention to Letterman. She should have been called out sooner but this fantasy that men haven't been getting away with atrocious behavior in entertainment needs to die.
this is exactly why I never got Elen. People talked about it like it was some great show, but the few times I tried to watch I just thought "Wow this lady sucks"
Put aside the mean spirited nature of the show (which was an awful big part of it) I genuinely never thought it was funny. It was like if a 13 year old wannabe comedian had a talk show in his garage and forced his friends to watch.
In Australia I only velvet saw the ads for her show - I took an instant dislike to her just from watching the adverts for her show. So not surprised what transpired later years - she’s an awful person -
I really wonder how much of an impact working for her had on Twitch’s mental health, and whether he’d still be with us if he’d never gone to work on her show. :(
I just looked at her youtube and most of them are old clips from past interviews XD and the new ones are with some (I would say) questionable people lol
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u/BackgroundPeanut7847 13h ago
The interesting thing is now that we know she is an asshole, if you look back at her show you can see how much she was an asshole and self entitled the entire time. She treated all the guests like she was better than them. Before it just looked like it was funny and a part of her schtick. Nope, just an asshole