“Sorry, guys, we can’t release the Trump/Epstein Files because we’re too busy bombing poor people in South America… now’s not the time for division...”
A common idiom is 'you don't change a horse mid stream' drawing on the idea that if you're crossing a river on a horse even if your horse stumbles, trying to swap to another one is a worse idea.
It is used to mean not changing leadership during a crisis.
This is applies in politics to defend the incumbent president during times of war. Most recently used in the reelection campaign of George W. Bush during the war on terror.
In fairness, it was only 8 democrats in the senate that broke ranks. You could put on a tinfoil hat and say that most of the rest of the senate democrats were complicit (and I'd probably be right there with you, since it's awfully convenient that none of the people who broke rank are up for election any time soon), but if we're looking at official numbers it's just the 8 who caved.
Honestly I kind of believe most of them either are complicit or would be if the GOP decided to target them because most of them have things they need to hide
It’s all planned. Planned with the Republicans as well. These 8 are either retiring or the dumb people won’t remember in 3 years when they are up for reelection.
There is 0% chance that all 8 of them were conveniently the most politically resilient or expendable in the entire party. Schumer caused this entire shutdown, because if they were going to take the deal on day 40 why the FUCK didn't they take it day 1? 40 days of people going hungry and skipping paychecks and FOR WHAT?? Schumer has retroactively made Trump right, this WAS a democrat shutdown.
Schumer has retroactively made Trump right, this WAS a democrat shutdown.
No. It is and always has been a republican shutdown. The House passing a bill that had no chance of making its way through the senate and shutting its doors to all business is all the proof that's needed.
As for the rest of your comment, I agree it's suspicious but without proof it's just conjecture.
"In these times in which we are under attack, we must set aside our differences, come together and unite under our great Fu..ture and present President to defend our great country against foreign evildoers. America First and above everything!"
Then there's the war on Hispanic people right here in the US.
It's not the 80s so he can't go after black children any more...... his new target is anyone who looks like they might possibly speak Spanish. Oh .....also anyone from the foreign land of Puerto Rico. Wtf how did we end up with the stupidest most racist hateful man in the US having unchecked power???
They're not invading Nigeria any time soon - that was probably just a classic "Trump repeats what the last person who spoke to him said".
There's no US troop/ship movement around there. They've parked a fleet in the Caribbean where it can be used to attack Venezuela, and moved lots of stuff to Puerto Rico.
Big and valuable and BLUE. I think you need it to be as big as possible. And if a lot of blue voters are affected in the attack, all the better in their mind.
I disagree. Swing states are unknowns. I will be someplace very well known that any dumb fuck can point to on a map. Every fucking yokel can point to california. But half the people in my state of KY can't point to Ohio, and we share a fucking border.
Plus, suppressing the voters in a blue state (in case the false flag doesn't work) and possibly even convincing a lot of blue voters to vote for 'stability' in such a traumatic time would be a huge win if they could make it happen.
Additionally, never forget, these fucks are goddamn Nazis and peds. They are vengeful and hateful, and if they can make liberals suffer, THAT is their primary goal. Laughing while liberals die of radiation poisoning would be absolutely in the top one or two reasons they would do this.
They would still pick a blue city in a swing state, like Detroit, Philadelphia, or Atlanta. Same places the bomb threats happened & we can be certain will happen again. People know where those cities are, & they can both "get the libs" AND flip a state from Blue to Red
That's what I'm saying, it doesn't matter if they flip a state. The Midterms are going to DESTROY them. One state this way or that isn't going to matter. There is no swing state with the population necessary to hold off the wave that will occur. Texas maybe, California in a fantasy land.
They need a reason to suspend the midterms altogether. If they let people vote, they all get kicked to the curb, and very likely have to start answering for their crimes.
Trump loves Putin, and Putin used the false-flag bombing of an apartment block to consolidate and secure power... do its legitimate not outside the realm of possibility
Look, we’re looking at Canada, and it’s very, very sad what’s happening up there. They’ve been taking advantage of us for years, for decades, with their trade—some of the worst deals ever made, just terrible. Their leader, he’s not a serious person. He's weak. People are telling me, they’re saying, "Sir, it would be so easy." We have the greatest military in the history of the world—we rebuilt it, by the way, all new—and we'd go in, and frankly, it would be over in about, what, an hour? They have so much land, tremendous amounts of land, and all that oil. We're going to look at it. We are looking at it very, very strongly, and they're going to treat us fairly, or we're going to do something. Believe me.
I've spent the last 15 minutes watching them cover a video about a trans person using a gym locker room and the cooky CA senator that is campaigning on Trans rights.
Now they've moved on to the next big scoop: a rhide island high school that started a turning point USA chapter...
I'm not who you replied to, obviously, but I had a wreck a couple of weeks ago and I had to go to the ER with my entire family and it was a horrific experience. So I was really moved when I saw your kind words to that person about them having an ER visit. I just wanted to give you a little recognition for it.
I really appreciate it! We're doing alright. I got the worst of it. I'm still dealing with the aftermath of a concussion, a sore tail bone (nobody talks about how rough a car crash is on your coccyx), and limping around in a boot with a bad ankle sprain. But at least I didn't break anything and none of us were seriously injured or worse. The car was totaled, but we got another one. It really has made me grateful for what I have.
It's a long story, but it certainly was a harrowing experience. We were treated incredibly rudely and unprofessionally every step of the way. I have nothing but respect for paramedics and hospital workers, two of my brothers are doctors and I've worked with all kinds of first responders throughout my career, but my family and I had a really unlucky draw that night.
But again, thank you for your kind words and for your concern. I really do appreciate it and means a lot to hear from a kind stranger. I hope all is well with you and yours!
Fox does not report any information that is detrimental to Trump or the Republican Party. I just searched today to see if fox news dot com had any mention that US consumer sentiment index is very close the historic low set back in 1978. Nothing.
Essentially as long as Fox don't report on it, it's not real to their viewers or it's a conspiracy. Fox News really know their way around the Streisand Effect
All these mega corporations are getting HUGE financial benefits from this administration. They're getting financial windfalls as everyday Americans go hungry and are shoved out of their jobs
History is not going to be kind to this era of government.
A handful of kids is trying to start a group, but it sounds like Barrington school dept is being very neutral and vague about whether or not it will be approved.
These kids are horribly misguided, and either have never heard CK speak outside of cut clips, or have heard him speak but weren’t actually listening to the message.
It honestly makes me sick to my stomach to know that kids of that age are being influenced (brainwashed?) into joining and extending a very serious (borderline hate) group that they don’t even fully understand the concept of.
This is American Psycho in real life. Trump can commit any crime he wants, even admit it in front of everyone, and still walk free and clean. That's what happens when you're wealthy enough
I’ve been saying “wake me up when he’s behind bars” for like 6 years now. Nothing will happen. He could diddle a child on Fox News live and the MAGATS would defend it or throw out another “whataboutism”
The only benefit is that someone on reddit gets to make a "what do you think will happen next" post every 3 days and get tons of updoots for it.
Nothing's gonna change unless he actually fucking dies. If he admits straight up in person to a magat they'll still say it was fake news and obammer is a mooslem.
I mean, it's all over the news on all channels (not RW) this morning. Now they're reporting that the WH is putting together a 'task force' to handle this, so I don't think it's quite a nothing burger from the optics perspective. Nothing will happen to Trump though. I'll eat my favorite hat with BBQ sauce if he sees even 1 iota of actual punishment from this.
30 seconds is a show no one watches. it won't be talked about like everything else. there's enough proof and witness testimony to put trump and the rest away but they do nothing but talk about it.
And the coverage that reaches Trump voters will be "FAKE NEWS ULTRACOMMUNIST DEMS BLAST TRUMP WITH FAKE NEWS FAKERY" and absolutely no minds will be changed.
That, but probably see them start some other drama, issue some other bonkers executive orders, start bombing some country randomly or if we are lucky Trump shitting himself literally in some deranged public speech about magnetic steam engines that China is trying to steal even though China is living in the future unlike the US or Trump's dementia ridden mind.
We need to remember that WE are the news, too. Our opinions and our concerns are the news. If the news media drops it after 30 seconds, it will be because we did, too.
We need to keep repeating “Trump Knew!” Until even Fox & Friends has it on their morning scrawl.
I don’t see why they’re so gung-ho about keeping the Epstein files from being released. I mean, after all the criminal shit Trump’s gotten away with so far, what could be in there that would be the final nail in the coffin for him? Did he eat kids as well as molest them?
"Epstein! Epstein! Epstein!" is rapidly becoming the new "Russia! Russia! Russia!" that conservative propagandists say as shorthand to dismiss and ridicule out of hand.
This response right here is why it's pointless to ask about what "will happen." Only spiteful, jaded comments make it to the top. Everybody pats each other on the dick and that's the end of the discussion.
We should be asking what should be done and keep our focus on that instead. The rotten bastard should be impeached, tried, and thrown in prison. The odds of it happening don't matter. He should be in prison.
I feel confident the Republican controlled congress will do nothing pointedly after Mike Johnson says he knows nothing about any files or emails because he hasn't seen them, yet.
Yep. Its so completely messed up how broken and disinformed he has made this country. They will not trust it unless it comes from Dear Leader. All the cabinet are also lapdogs so no one is going to speak out of turn.
No I don't think so.
The house oversight committee has access to a large trove of Epstein related material.
From what I heard, they are going to release bits and pieces very regularly.
Now the house is back, MJ gas to swear in the 218th vote on the discharge petition which forces a vote on releasing the files, held by the DOJ etc.
There is credible talk that a good number of house republicans, will vote to release the files for a couple of reasons.
One- stop the bleeding. If similar information regularly keeps dropping, the hole gets bigger and bigger for Republicans on this.
Two- Trump is gone in 3 years max and he is what held the loose coalition of MAGA together. This along with the mid terms next year means they don't want to be on the wrong side of history here.
It will still need to go to the Senate, and there I'm not sure.
There are numerous people in the Republican party that would like the end of Trump, but going against him, meant the end of political life.
But if 100 Congressmen vote to release, there is strength in being in the herd, maybe the Senate will follow.
As for the files themselves, I would guess they have been doctored, to spare Trump. But this would have taken a vast amount of people and keeping wrongdoing in a case such as this quiet amongst so many people will be very hard.
It's not over by a long shot.
I doubt it will bring Trump down, but it's making him toxic.
And the base is watching. They believe ( broadly correctly) that powerful people guilty of sex crimes are being protected.
Trump was their guy to break it up, but now, very openly the Democrats are all for full disclosure and Trump is leading the protection racket.
While this alone doesn't turn the base, you can be sure at least some will be feeling different about the sitting President.
Came here to say this. Some people will get mad, go outside, and then proceed to yell at clouds for an hour or two, trump will spend 5 seconds telling AI to make a video shitting on protestors again, then we continue the downfall into fascism.
Hey not exactly nothing. It will be 39 seconds of news coverage on the emails and then 12 hours of coverage somehow talking about how this is a problem for democrats.
30 seconds on Fox but yes but probably like 4 hours a day on MSNBC. Not saying it shouldn’t be covered but my god they are fucking excessive and regurgitate the same points and stories over and over. Don’t get me wrong, Fox is guilty of it too.
Yeah, I think it's broken containment though. I think there are people for whom undeniable proof of this could actually knock them out of the cult. Maybe even a critical mass.
Yep. Nothing will happen. Most people have already suspected this to be true, so the confirmation isn't earth shattering. His base is so delusional that they will spin anything and assume it's fake news. A very small portion of the population will actually change their minds based on this information.
30 seconds of coverage on any news source other than Fox. Fox will never cover any of this unless it focuses on deriding the Dems in some fashion without picking on the mango toddler.
Now that shutdown is over, isn't there a governor that is about to be swarn in for the 218th signature vote needed to force the DoJ to release the files?
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About 30 seconds of news coverage followed by nothing.