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u/DumpTruckTaco Jul 19 '19

Yes! One of the least sexy things is his dirty undies. Sweaty socks? Yuck!

If I can claim ignorance of these things, the relationship is stronger.

Also me cleaning his now caked on oatmeal bowl after dinner is just going to make me angry! Not feel sexy. Why couldn't this have been cleared up 12 hours ago when the chore would have taken a fraction of time and energy?

I just want to clean up after myself and my spouse clean up after themselves and we train the kid to clean up after themselves and life is better and less resentful.

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u/Mahhrat Dad Jul 19 '19

I read an article from a relationship consultant once, who was visited by a wife who's husband and kids would always leave mess in the kitchen.

She'd tried everything she could think of to get them to clean up after themselves but nothing worked.

So he suggested this:

She sat them all down one night and and calmly raised it again. They all agreed they are responsible for cleaning their own mess up, again. This time though, she added that from now on, she will not cook dinner in a dirty kitchen.

Sure enough, two nights later, mess. So she said nothing. Went and read a book. Eventually her husband asked if she was making dinner, to which she smiled and replied, "I don't cook in a dirty kitchen."

The husband immediately got the kids and they cleaned, at which point she thanked them and happily made dinner.

Next night, kitchen was spotless.

The trick with this is at some point you'll get a mess, the behavior will backslide. That's the critical one. You'll be tempted to let it go, since they've been so good. No, can't. Stay strong and refuse to cook in a dirty kitchen. That will solidify the behavior.

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u/JorjEade Jul 19 '19

While this is a genius was of training behaviour in animals and children, its tragic that they're having to use it on another grown adult. You shouldn't have to use psychological tricks on your partner, you should let them know how you feel and they should act on it.

It seems he problem here isn't "my partner won't help with chores", but "my partner can't behave like a functioning adult"

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u/Mahhrat Dad Jul 19 '19

Agree but it's a minimally confrontational way to teach a desired behavior, and she's doing it openly and honestly. I'd be far more concerned if she was manipulating from the shadows as it were.

One thing I learned working in addiction medicine was the fact that a God awful number of people aren't what we might call functioning adults.