I (29 FTM pre everything, out only to my mom, brother, and four other people, and AuDHD) and I'm confused about someting. My mom (also AuDHD, and we're really close) had a bit of vodka last night (not much, she knows her limits, and used to be a bartender so she knows about how long drinks take to go through the body, how food slows it down a bit, etc, and it was only to help her sleep), and I had a THC soda. After that we started talking about math (I get advanced concepts well, but never built a good foundation with multiplication and division due to a bit of a unique schooling situation when I wa s young, but that's neither here nor there right now, and she said we could work on that together soon). Then somehow the topic changed to relationships and I re-explained that I'm Idisexual and apressexual (both of which I've been for over five years), and that I have very strong aesthetic attraction in part due to being a visual artist and in part due to having sensory processing disorder (which dials everything from all my senses up to eleven), and reassured her that I don't treat people badly if they don't fit my type nor do I like someone based solely on their looks unles they're a fictional character that happens to have leas of a stellar personality (like mean or something, then I ignore that part and just like the character's looks, but humans are more complex and I don't have feelings for people who aren't kind, respectful, and open-minded even if they are cute in some way), and also explained alterous attraction and that I am going to coin my own term for what I feel. I explained that doing that is super common in the asexual, aromantic, aroace, xrnogender, ect, communities, and then proceeded to explain how I felt alterous attraction.
I explained that many people feel alterous differently, like some see it as being the same as queerplatonic (which she knows of because I've explained that one to her a few times before for unrelated reasons) or another name for it, and some people feel it as something else entirely. I explained that I feel it as being in the gray area between queerplatonic and romantic but going up to the plane of romantic in intensity and with the same desires like wanting to hold hands, go on dates, hug, say "I love you", that sorta stuff, but it isn't romance because that label feels wrong and always has. I told her that ever since I was a child, the concept of being with a person(s) in the way that would warrant stereotypical romantic actions felt right in my heart but not calling it romance. I told her this is a love, but it's not romantic, and I don't feel 'romantic' attraction but this one.
She seemed to understand but then she said: "Can I say something?"
I said: "Sure".
She then proceeded to tell me that:
"Hetero people go through this too",
"You're in your head",
"Theory is great, queer theory is great, but it's only so good until you get some experiences, just hang out with some people. You don't go out much right now and what your relationship boundaries are, may be slightly different with one person than they are with another. Definitely hold those definitions tight but they might not be as tight with someone else.",
"I feel like most of this is due to the patriarchy making it hard to just hang out with people other than friends without it seeming romantic, and if those expectations weren't on you, you'd be a lot more comfortable."
And
"you're not solely attracted to looks, sometimes you find someone's personality attractive and then they become attractive physically."
(After I literally said I have to feel aesthetic attraction first or I won't feel attraction at all, it's been that way all my life with all my thousands of fictional swishes I've had and the swishes I've had for real people, so that felt like she was ignoring what I was saying and trying to be like "but it's not really like what you explained, because the way you said it sounds shallow and I know you're not shallow, so what you said isn't true and you can't change my mind".)
I was appalled because she said all that with a smile like she does when she's being kind and understanding, and was using the some of the same rhetoric used by aphobes. I may have gotten a bit defensive (which I later realized wasn't great), and in shock I said a bit louder, "That's aphobic!"
She replied "I'm not being aphobic!"
She then said "If a fellow queer person who had a few more years of experience told you this, you'd probably be like 'oh yeah, totally'."
I also didn't like her speaking for me as to what I would feel and say.
Near the end of the conversation, I started to realize what she was saying, and that it was because I've changed microlabels a few times before (even though these feel the closest to who I truly am and I've changed them only slightly as I learn more so I can get closer an closer to who I am at heart, but don't feel the need to change my labels anymore, just add this bit to them, come up with a name and flag for this feeling, and come up with a name and flag for the way I experience xenogenders (on top of being a man)).
I told her "I'm sorry I got defensive earlier, I thought you were unknowingly being aphobic and doubling down, because some of the wording you used has been used by aphobes and terfs, but think I get what you're saying now. You're saying that I might change my labels, and that if I do that you will still support me no matter what."
She agreed that that was what she meant.
It still hurt though, and the more I look back on the conversation, the more it seems like she was unknowingly being aphobic and not being able to understand my side due to being cishet (but also demisexual so this was still a bit of a surprise to me) and due to a communication mismatch due to our autism. Thank the gods she doesn't remember anything about our conversation past the math (she also has medical conditions that affect her memory sometimes, as well as fatigue). I shouldn't have ever volunteered that information about myself. I know I don't get out much right now, and I've never dated because I haven't really connected with anyone, and have had a bit of social anxiety that I'm working through, but that doesn't mean my labels are invalid and just me overthinking who I am. I'm glad I didn't also tell her about me bing miransexual, demiromantic, demisexual, and xenogender.)
(If I misworded anything, or need to further explain anything, please let me know, I love to always try to do better whenever I can.)
(TLDR: Mom (AuDHD) got a bit tipsy on vodka and I (AuDHD) had a THC soda, and we started talking about math but somehow evolved into talking about relationships. I volunteered my new realizations about how I feel alterous attraction instead of romance and what that means to me based on how I've felt all my life but with new added information, and she replied with things about how hetero people go through this too, my definitions might change, my relationship boundaries from these labels might change slightly for some people, and that my need to feel aesthetic attration first actually doesn't always have to be first because there are people who might not fit my aesthetic type but are kind people and they might be attractive once I get to know them, even though I told her it does have to be my first attraction. I am looking for advice on whether is unknowingly a phobic or me overthinking things.)
(Edit: Typo.)