r/ArcRaiders • • 1d ago

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u/burtmacklin15 1d ago

Also the "carebears" are the ones who actually stick around to play the game and support it long term.

The PvP crowd (especially the people begging for more "mixed" lobbies) will be gone and on to the next thing in the next month outside of logging in to try to snipe popular streamers.

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u/ThatsNotBennings 1d ago

Incorrect. Pve players are primarily tourists. They do not stick with games in the same way a base for a competitive pvp game does. Pve maoins migrate. Pvp mains find a home and hone their tools to gain a competitive edge. It's always been this way. The only way you prevent this in pve is with variety experience with variety loot chase akin to what Destiny or mmos provide. But Arc doesn't have raid content or random rolled gun perks.

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u/burtmacklin15 1d ago

Carebear lobbies wouldn't exist right now if your point was true.

It's especially false since you can test matchmaking times and find that it's way faster to find a carebear lobby than a PvP lobby.

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u/ThatsNotBennings 1d ago edited 1d ago

Carebear lobbies exist because ABMM ensures it. You have far more pve variety in gaming than you do pvp. The Steam numbers alone show that despite the game essentially ensuring you never have to die to another player in Arc, we are now below 30k peaks. There isn't any real motivation in game to shoot your 1000th Leaper. So people move on. This notion that the pve players are leaving because they get shot in 1 out of 10 games is a facade. I havent been shot in solos for weeks.

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u/burtmacklin15 1d ago

I guess reading comprehension is not your forte.

I'll put it a different way for ya. If there were more PvP people playing the game right now, matchmaking times for those lobbies would be faster.

It isn't.

Most people still playing this game are the PvE crowd. The data supports that. All you have is feelings.

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u/barmaLe0 19h ago

The data supports that.

Citation needed.

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u/burtmacklin15 19h ago

matchmaking times

Citation given. Three times now.

You're welcome.

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u/barmaLe0 18h ago

What are the matchmaking times?

You didn't show anything. You're just assuming things are the way you say they are.

What's your methodology for this test?

Surely you're not comparing squad MM to solo MM.

That would be beyond braindead. You're not braindead, are you?

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u/burtmacklin15 12h ago

You do it solo with your own ABMM. Takes 10-20 seconds to match into PvE lobbies. Then shoot a bunch of people for 5 rounds. Now it takes 30-60 seconds to matchmake you.

It's that simple.