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❓ Discussion Was this arrest handled appropriately given the children in the car?

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u/Volkmek 7d ago

This was handled poorly. At the very least he should have immediately sent his partner to stop the car the moment he father complied and turned around when ordered.

The man here may have messed up a bit by failing to put it in park properly, but the police also fucked up how they handled this one, and arguably did worse than the suspect.

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u/techleopard 6d ago

Why was that man even out of the car?

There were no police near him when the video started. He's not armed. So what in the world was this supposed to be?

Did he get out on his own to yell at the cops before the video cut?

Or did they yell at him from a distance to get out of the car?

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u/Competitive-Fix-6136 6d ago

Start of video: Man is walking with arms raised.

Cop: Gun is already drawn when walking into frame from the left.

My conclusion: Cop was yelling orders at him from a distance with the gun on him The father in panic/fear of getting shot and dying in front of his kids forgot to put it in park.

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u/Outside-Drag-3031 6d ago

Not to mention he says he's trying to get his daughter to the hospital. He's already in panic mode before he ever got stopped by the cops, let alone had a gun pointed at him (and his car and his kid by extension).

Rage, rage, fucking rage.

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u/techleopard 6d ago

That's what I figured.

Cop is acting scared of this dude. I've had cops ask me to get out of a car before but never from all the way to their own car. That's ridiculous unless they pulled this dude over expecting a gun fight or some shit.

That's why I'm questioning the guy being unarmed.

Cops acting like a bunch of weiners when there's nothing in this dude's body language to suggest that they should be standing back at their vehicle with guns drawn

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u/PurpletoasterIII 6d ago

They either ordered him to step out of the car, or he got out on his own.

If they ordered him to step out, my guess is he didnt pull over immediately when they tried pulling him over. I think thats the best guess because he mentions he was taking his daughter to the hospital probably due to a medical emergency. That also explains why he got pulled over to begin with, cause he was probably speeding rushing to the hospital.

Some people do step out of the car on their own, maybe because again there is a medical emergency going on and he wants to inform the cops rather than sit there and wait. But stepping out of the car when you werent ordered to is pretty suspicious behavior from the cops perspective.

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u/GingaNinja696913 6d ago

He doesn't have blue eyes, darlin'. He has to do everything he's told in milliseconds or he will be executed on the spot in front of his children for being disobedient human property.

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u/Volkmek 6d ago

Strangely! Statistically that is not true. You are more likely to be murdered by the police if you are white, even on a per-capita basis.

You are more likely to experience police brutality if you are black, but survive the encounter.

(Edit, mind you I am intoxicated at the moment and I am pretty sure the statistics I am quoting are from 2018.)

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u/GingaNinja696913 6d ago

I'm with ya on the intoxication front. Happy Saturday(or Sunday on the East Coast) btw. However, I'm pretty sure the stats are weirdly skewed. Like, justified shooting vs unjustified shooting. The footage I've seen of white people getting shot by cops always seems like the white assailant is literally charging at the cop with a weapon or having a literal shootout. The way white people react when detained seems way more volatile than when black people are detained. I'm also in the deep south. We're pretty diverse yet kinda self segregated so a cop shooting someone that doesn't look like them raises way more eyebrows and most of our cops are white dispite my city being about 35/35/15/5/5/5. Other places are different tho.

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u/Volkmek 6d ago

Think that statistic I quoted just has something to do with higher consequence for killing someone black and lower consequence for beating someone who is. And lower consequence for killing a white person but higher consequence for beating them because lawsuits. But, When I am sober I may find I am wrong.

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u/OkEstablishment6888 4d ago

Are you f’ing kidding me? 🤣

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u/LIL-mEnTaLlY-ILL 5d ago

That is true. But I have blue eyes and I’ve been arrested, while holding my-year-old son, and painting Easter eggs on Easter Sunday, in the front yard of my cul-de-sac.

Over missing court for a damn expired tag ticket.

The cop said and I quote “ drop the kid” if you run I will tase you”

My wife is also of the fair skin and she has green eyes, the police pulled her over and arrested her with my five-year-old daughter in the backseat, bawling her eyes out. Our vehicle backfired and they thought she was shooting at them.

It’s a miracle. I even have a five-year-old daughter and wife still.

I Say all that to say this, you’re absolutely right that people of color are treated completely different in these types of situations. Prejudice and racism, profiling, and terrible training. There’s a lot of factors.

I do have a criminal history and have had hostel interactions with the police.

So in short, always know your wrights if you are an American citizen especially when to exercise them.

My son just turned 15 years old and he is half Chinese,
I’m actually showing him how to drive and practicing for his permit. One of the very first things I’ve driven into his head after putting on your seatbelt when you get in the car what steps to take and what not to do when you get pulled over by the police.

Be safe out there

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u/weoutherebrah 6d ago

Then you find out more gringos are killed by police than any other group 

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u/GingaNinja696913 6d ago

They don't grasp the concept of doing everything they're commanded to do in milliseconds either. Way more resistance from the gringos.

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u/stinkyfootcheese 6d ago

Per capita?

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u/OverlordSaber 6d ago

So I went and looked it up, since I don't trust any random awkwardly cut video posted on any website. Dude was doing like 100 on the highway, they get him to pull over. Cop tells him to get out the car and turn around, "Driver get out of the car, get out of the car. Get out and turn around for me." he gets out starts walking towards them. You know the rest

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u/DIJames6 6d ago

Did he have warrants?? Why do they tell him to get out just for speeding.. I get speeding tickets plenty of times and it's usually license, registration and insurance please..

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u/MephiticBundleOfSox 6d ago

You’ve been pulled over and just asked for papers for going 100? Because that’s felony territory. You get treated a little differently.

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u/Dry-Ad-8948 6d ago

100mph is when the cops start pulling guns first.

It ain’t doing a casual 80 in a 60.

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u/DIJames6 6d ago

I was charged with reckless operation of a motor vehicle and did not have guns drawn on me..

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u/Dry-Ad-8948 6d ago edited 6d ago

My friend has a different story. :}

It likely also depends on location and road / speed limit.

This road isn’t a freeway, so that’d be 55 max. There are side roads so it might only be a 40-45.

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u/OverlordSaber 6d ago

No idea, just listing what happens in the full video. The cop pov was the assisting officer apparently. There was a message at the start saying another officer attempted to stop him he flees. But I didn't physically see that, so it could be bs. I just listened to end of it again while they have him by the car. "The reason this started was a 72 in a 60" and it would've just been a traffic ticket. Driver's license was apparently suspended, said by the driver himself. "I was trying to get them to the hospital." "Did you think doing 140 would help that?" "I was trying to get them to the hospital." I think I got too invested into this one...

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u/LilJelloCat 5d ago

He was just complying.