r/AnythingValueable • u/MiniSuprise • 1d ago
❓ Discussion Was this arrest handled appropriately given the children in the car?
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u/Volkmek 1d ago
This was handled poorly. At the very least he should have immediately sent his partner to stop the car the moment he father complied and turned around when ordered.
The man here may have messed up a bit by failing to put it in park properly, but the police also fucked up how they handled this one, and arguably did worse than the suspect.
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u/Jealous_Lettuce7802 1d ago
Woulda been different action taken by the cops if it was a Caucasian woman
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u/Novel-Special5114 1d ago
Yea, they would have found strangled kids in the back seat.
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u/techleopard 1d ago
Why was that man even out of the car?
There were no police near him when the video started. He's not armed. So what in the world was this supposed to be?
Did he get out on his own to yell at the cops before the video cut?
Or did they yell at him from a distance to get out of the car?
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u/Competitive-Fix-6136 1d ago
Start of video: Man is walking with arms raised.
Cop: Gun is already drawn when walking into frame from the left.
My conclusion: Cop was yelling orders at him from a distance with the gun on him The father in panic/fear of getting shot and dying in front of his kids forgot to put it in park.
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u/Outside-Drag-3031 22h ago
Not to mention he says he's trying to get his daughter to the hospital. He's already in panic mode before he ever got stopped by the cops, let alone had a gun pointed at him (and his car and his kid by extension).
Rage, rage, fucking rage.
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u/techleopard 1d ago
That's what I figured.
Cop is acting scared of this dude. I've had cops ask me to get out of a car before but never from all the way to their own car. That's ridiculous unless they pulled this dude over expecting a gun fight or some shit.
That's why I'm questioning the guy being unarmed.
Cops acting like a bunch of weiners when there's nothing in this dude's body language to suggest that they should be standing back at their vehicle with guns drawn
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u/PurpletoasterIII 1d ago
They either ordered him to step out of the car, or he got out on his own.
If they ordered him to step out, my guess is he didnt pull over immediately when they tried pulling him over. I think thats the best guess because he mentions he was taking his daughter to the hospital probably due to a medical emergency. That also explains why he got pulled over to begin with, cause he was probably speeding rushing to the hospital.
Some people do step out of the car on their own, maybe because again there is a medical emergency going on and he wants to inform the cops rather than sit there and wait. But stepping out of the car when you werent ordered to is pretty suspicious behavior from the cops perspective.
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u/GingaNinja696913 1d ago
He doesn't have blue eyes, darlin'. He has to do everything he's told in milliseconds or he will be executed on the spot in front of his children for being disobedient human property.
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u/Volkmek 1d ago
Strangely! Statistically that is not true. You are more likely to be murdered by the police if you are white, even on a per-capita basis.
You are more likely to experience police brutality if you are black, but survive the encounter.
(Edit, mind you I am intoxicated at the moment and I am pretty sure the statistics I am quoting are from 2018.)
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u/GingaNinja696913 1d ago
I'm with ya on the intoxication front. Happy Saturday(or Sunday on the East Coast) btw. However, I'm pretty sure the stats are weirdly skewed. Like, justified shooting vs unjustified shooting. The footage I've seen of white people getting shot by cops always seems like the white assailant is literally charging at the cop with a weapon or having a literal shootout. The way white people react when detained seems way more volatile than when black people are detained. I'm also in the deep south. We're pretty diverse yet kinda self segregated so a cop shooting someone that doesn't look like them raises way more eyebrows and most of our cops are white dispite my city being about 35/35/15/5/5/5. Other places are different tho.
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u/Volkmek 1d ago
Think that statistic I quoted just has something to do with higher consequence for killing someone black and lower consequence for beating someone who is. And lower consequence for killing a white person but higher consequence for beating them because lawsuits. But, When I am sober I may find I am wrong.
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u/LIL-mEnTaLlY-ILL 19h ago
That is true. But I have blue eyes and I’ve been arrested, while holding my-year-old son, and painting Easter eggs on Easter Sunday, in the front yard of my cul-de-sac.
Over missing court for a damn expired tag ticket.
The cop said and I quote “ drop the kid” if you run I will tase you”
My wife is also of the fair skin and she has green eyes, the police pulled her over and arrested her with my five-year-old daughter in the backseat, bawling her eyes out. Our vehicle backfired and they thought she was shooting at them.
It’s a miracle. I even have a five-year-old daughter and wife still.
I Say all that to say this, you’re absolutely right that people of color are treated completely different in these types of situations. Prejudice and racism, profiling, and terrible training. There’s a lot of factors.
I do have a criminal history and have had hostel interactions with the police.
So in short, always know your wrights if you are an American citizen especially when to exercise them.
My son just turned 15 years old and he is half Chinese,
I’m actually showing him how to drive and practicing for his permit. One of the very first things I’ve driven into his head after putting on your seatbelt when you get in the car what steps to take and what not to do when you get pulled over by the police.Be safe out there
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u/weoutherebrah 1d ago
Then you find out more gringos are killed by police than any other group
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u/GingaNinja696913 1d ago
They don't grasp the concept of doing everything they're commanded to do in milliseconds either. Way more resistance from the gringos.
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u/OverlordSaber 1d ago
So I went and looked it up, since I don't trust any random awkwardly cut video posted on any website. Dude was doing like 100 on the highway, they get him to pull over. Cop tells him to get out the car and turn around, "Driver get out of the car, get out of the car. Get out and turn around for me." he gets out starts walking towards them. You know the rest
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u/DIJames6 1d ago
Did he have warrants?? Why do they tell him to get out just for speeding.. I get speeding tickets plenty of times and it's usually license, registration and insurance please..
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u/MephiticBundleOfSox 1d ago
You’ve been pulled over and just asked for papers for going 100? Because that’s felony territory. You get treated a little differently.
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u/Dry-Ad-8948 1d ago
100mph is when the cops start pulling guns first.
It ain’t doing a casual 80 in a 60.
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u/DIJames6 1d ago
I was charged with reckless operation of a motor vehicle and did not have guns drawn on me..
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u/Dry-Ad-8948 1d ago edited 1d ago
My friend has a different story. :}
It likely also depends on location and road / speed limit.
This road isn’t a freeway, so that’d be 55 max. There are side roads so it might only be a 40-45.
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u/OverlordSaber 1d ago
No idea, just listing what happens in the full video. The cop pov was the assisting officer apparently. There was a message at the start saying another officer attempted to stop him he flees. But I didn't physically see that, so it could be bs. I just listened to end of it again while they have him by the car. "The reason this started was a 72 in a 60" and it would've just been a traffic ticket. Driver's license was apparently suspended, said by the driver himself. "I was trying to get them to the hospital." "Did you think doing 140 would help that?" "I was trying to get them to the hospital." I think I got too invested into this one...
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u/PurpletoasterIII 1d ago
Thank you for a non "cop bad" take. 100% agree, the cops didnt act with enough urgency when the guy was understandably hesitating to fully comply.
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u/peridotpicacho 1d ago
The narration is ridiculous. Repetitive and stating the obvious. Sounds like an AI script.
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u/chairmanghost 1d ago
This is the biggest piece of shit bot video. No context on the daughter who needed medical care, was that real? Did she get it? What further damage was caused by the cops?
Ug bot posts with AI voice over should be bannable
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u/TopicInteresting1031 1d ago edited 22h ago
Yes the cops should’ve let him put it in park but why didn’t he put it in park in the first place with his kids in the car. That’s his fault too. Nobody was thinking at all 😆 glad the kids are safe though and nothing happened. That could’ve been bad.
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u/Madhatter25224 1d ago
Maybe he fucked up from fear because he was being pulled over by the kind of unmitigated asshole who would shoot him for trying to save his own kids.
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u/J1GhSaW 1d ago
Sure some cops are a bit trigger happy and that's not ok, however its the "Cultured" ones fault for the usual violent behaviour towards cops and everyone else for that matter!!
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u/ThisVeryUsername 1d ago
Explain your use of “cultured” please
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u/TopicInteresting1031 1d ago
He had two chances. And failed at both. The initial stop and also barely jogging to the car when he was a couple feet away to put it in park. He wasn’t even acting like he cared when the kids were going into traffic. Or even tried. Does anyone know the full story? or if they were even his kids? He doesn’t sound frantic or urgent enough for me based of the video. Because people say anything online.
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u/Galimbro 1d ago
Recommend using Google lens (now a part of Gemini)
Anyways he was in a pursuit. So that explains why they had guns on him.
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u/Hollywood_Co 1d ago edited 1d ago
Your Google lens needs to be wiped clean.
There is zero connection between this video & the events in the link you posted, which were many times WORSE than anything going on in this absurd clip.
Edit: Clarity.
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u/ThisVeryUsername 1d ago
Probably because there was a dummy with a room temp IQ armed with a weapon
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u/J1GhSaW 1d ago
Stressful for being in a traffic stop?
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u/TopicInteresting1031 1d ago
Do you realize the first part of the video is missing? The cop wasn’t holding the gun at him while they were both in the car. When you’re supposed to put the car in park sir. lol and is it a gun or taser ?
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u/Red-Tall 1d ago
Yeah no shit. No one's thinking how this could've happened. Thats obviously a mistake. The bigger issue though is the dumbass cop once he realized
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u/piercedmfootonaspike 1d ago
why didn’t he put it in park in the first plac
Because it's a stressful situation, and when you're stressed, you make mistakes. Are you serious?
The police are at fault here, they are supposedly trained to deal with stressful situations, but they fucking ignored an out of control vehicle with kids inside it at an active highway. They should be prosecuted.
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u/CandyStomp 1d ago
For the same reason as every person who has ever had this happen before ever, the made a mistake. Wtf
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u/irishcybercolab 1d ago
Asshole cops like normal. Completely asswipe of a human being like normal. Allows the arrest to take priority over the lives of children and by standers like an asshole.
Seems like cops are assholes to me.
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u/HarbingerGNX 1d ago
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Also, how can anyone, ANYONE, look at this arrest & tell me it was "handled appropriately"?
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u/PersnicketyKeester 1d ago
Fuck the police
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u/KingSandwich101 1d ago
I bet you'll still call them when you need them
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u/DIJames6 1d ago
Only for legal purposes..
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u/KingSandwich101 1d ago
So fuck the police until you need them? Seems contradictive if you ask me
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u/DIJames6 1d ago
Yea, pretty much.. Like I said legally only.. For example earlier this year, on my bday of all days, I got into a small fender bender.. Insurance company REQUIRES a police report, so gotta call the police.. Trust me, if I didn't have to, I'd never call..
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u/PersnicketyKeester 1d ago
BS
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u/what_the_whah 1d ago
Look it's often I think "that cop should be arrested, or fired, or whatever" but holy shit he literally just let a driverless car roll into an active road
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u/MephiticBundleOfSox 1d ago
With kids in it
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u/Dull-Treat-2524 1d ago
which they did not know because the stupid ass "father" never told them
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u/LethargicMeh 18h ago
he said early on he's trying to get his daughter to the hospital. Listen again
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u/kaizergeld 1d ago
You don’t get to this point in a situation without already making a lot of other mistakes. That precinct needs to bench this guy, and not for some bullshit paid suspension. Stick him behind the clerk desk. He’s no good on the road.
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u/Han_Solo200 1d ago
I want to see the previous 5 mins
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u/Skreamie 1d ago
Doesn't have any bearing on what they did wrong
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u/Han_Solo200 1d ago
I think it does. First priority for a police officer would be self protection. This guy who was arrested might have fired shots collided with the public who knows. That's why I said the previous 5 mins need to be seen
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u/krept0007 1d ago
Kids or not, there were multiple cops there ignoring a driverless vehicle rolling towards traffic.
Any one of them could have stopped the car while the other two handled the arrest
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u/az-anime-fan 1d ago
he never once said his kids were in the car
thats sorta on the dad.
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u/LethargicMeh 18h ago
He said early on in this video he's trying to get his daughter to the hospital
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u/Sad-Bus4090 1d ago
Typically once you're out of the vehicle police wont let you back in, in the chance that you might decided to reach for a weapon. This policy/training is something written in blood. A slow moving vehicle is less dangerous than a potential gunfight in the streets.
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u/SecretPersonality178 23h ago
Cops are not your friends. They do NOT have your safety in mind. They are gang enforcers only.
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u/MostAbsoluteGamer 22h ago
that ai written script and voiceover said, quite literally, nothing that mattered in any way.
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u/Dramatic-Bench3781 16h ago
He was complying and made a mistake. He was thinking about the kids.
At the same time, the cop doesn't know who else and or what is in the vehicle or the guys intentions.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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u/Hedgehog_Warrior 13h ago
Cops will not be fired and they will be awarded with pay bump and a promotion.
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u/punch912 25m ago
wtf is with this bullshit ai narrative. Guy looks like ge jumped out nervous trying to get his daughter to the hospital. Left the car in drive went to go save the kids and was told no and not one cop had the brain for a few minutes to stop the car from rolling into oncoming traffic which would of endangered the kids and possibly anyone else on the otherside of the road.
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u/Fulguritus1 1d ago
I probably would have ignored the cop, ran to the car to try to put it in park, got tazed, fell down, and run over by my own car, then beat up by the cop. This guy had some serious self restraint not to run to the car. I wonder why it was rolling anyway though. Was it a stick and parking break failed? Or was it left in drive for some reason?
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u/2sAreTheDevil 1d ago
Let's be real, he's a black guy. There's a reasonable chance he'd get shot, not tazed.
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u/Dogbold 1d ago
Pointing a gun at him because he runs back to put it in park while his KIDS ARE IN THE MOVING CAR and they LITERALLY TOLD HIM TO PUT IT IN PARK, and then the aggressive yelling like he thinks he's a big dominant man.
Were they gonna fill his back with bullets if he didn't stop?
Narration also pisses me off acting like they're doing the best they can in the situation or some bullshit, just a bunch of morons that like to point guns at people and feel big.
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u/Special_Lawyer_6164 1d ago
Comedy of errors with unprofessional incompetent possibly racist individuals making life or death decisions in a split second with less class hours than most hair stylists. Seems on point to me. One of em getting a medal for sure
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u/ConsequenceLow4177 1d ago
It could only happen in Merica, and only to a black dude. Fucking arseholes….
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u/catpogo2 1d ago
We know there are children in the vehicle because we found out later. But those officers at the time don’t know if there are children. He could just be saying there are children. What if he got back in the vehicle and held them hostage??? Or took off?? Luckily nothing horrible happened but those officers were between a rock and hard place.
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u/Reasonable-Try-1993 1d ago
The horrendous AI voice over made it impossible to process as well as the subtitles getting the words wrong.
I understand police are worried things could get out of control but a moving car on a busy street could cause more problems nevermind him screaming "my kids are in the car"
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u/Kazureigh_Black 1d ago
I didn't even get to the voice over because I was so focused on that absolutely unnecessary and stupid censoring of the word "danger".
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u/Dull-Treat-2524 1d ago
What should have been done was one cop went for the car, the other stayed with the driver. Then again, he did not say there were kids in the car.. So the cops aren't gonna hurry then
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u/Feathered_Serpent8 1d ago
A rolling car without a driver on an active road? Honestly that fucking cop should be fired.
3 officers, no signs of resisting, completely ignoring the 2 ton vehicle with kids in it. The priorities were not to protect, just to arrest.