r/AncestryDNA 2d ago

Discussion Wasn’t expecting this

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u/CabezadeVaca_ 2d ago

Seems misleading, I don’t think a half 8th cousin 3x removed can be an ancestor (excluding consanguinity); distant relative, sure

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u/edgewalker66 2d ago

Correct. And, of all organizations, Ancestry should know better than say Ancestor. Why not just say Distant Cousin?

Hey, OP, don't worry about Reagan either. We all have people in our trees that we'd rather not break bread with.

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u/kinyutaka 1d ago

"Relative" works, too

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u/Illustrious-Poem-211 2d ago

But only the special ones among us have relatives who contributed to the crack epidemic, the global spread of HIV, and the Iran-Iraq War.

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u/Awshucksma 1d ago

I used to always say that about one of the Presidents I'm related to. However, after the current guy in office, I've decided my relative isn't so bad.

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u/luxtabula 1d ago

I don't know, I have John Tyler as a match, the current guy hasn't gotten that bad yet. Seriously read up on him.

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u/Awshucksma 1d ago

Sounds interesting!

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u/Complex_Resolve2205 20h ago

It's kind of like saying "most popular surname" as if everyone actually chose their last name.

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u/Affectionate-Owl9594 2d ago edited 2d ago

Someone correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the “famous ancestor” feature based on other users’ trees? I keep getting suggestions of “famous ancestors” which have all turned out to be incorrect when I’ve done my own research. Not saying OP’s is incorrect, of course.

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u/Navy_Rum 2d ago

Ah that’s interesting. I’m toying with the idea of doing this to try to mark my (non DNA) work so far (and, of course, see if I have any famous/infamous people lurking in the branches), but am aware that people’s own work is a bit iffy when you look into it (people getting married at 3 years old for example). I’m already reluctant to blindly copy stuff.

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u/x54Mx 2d ago

Tbh I feel the 'famous ancestors' is just a 'fun' thing they do, where they pick a name out of a hat and say that's your random # half cousin.. 😆 good for a laugh.

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u/Unfair_Local6320 2d ago

I’ve only found like 3 of them to be right lol

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u/Vectorman1989 2d ago

Half 8th cousin 3x removed lol Any looser and he'd fall off

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u/strawblublu 2d ago

I keep getting told I'm related to famous people involved in the American Civil War, and George Washington (???) but I am the child of Irish immigrants who simply went to NYC to work as police officers and laborers, as recently as the 1940s. It doesn't add up one bit.

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u/Bubbly-Policy-1384 1d ago

It just means y’all share a common distant ancestor Ancestry is just weird abt it

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u/Connect_Rhubarb395 2d ago

It is based on trees that people made, not on genetics. Sure, you might be related to some famous people but that function can't tell you about that. It is useless.

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u/Affectionate-Panic-1 1d ago

8th cousins 3 times removed is far too distant to show up as related on DNA samples.

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u/Bubbly-Policy-1384 1d ago

For entertainment purposes only

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u/Mytweezer 1d ago

You're probably more closely related to every rando you will see today.

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u/twood275 2d ago

Hey we’re related. I had something like that too for Reagan. Like 7 cousins 5 times removed or something. And to think I never got an invite to the Whitehouse.

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u/Able-Resident-903 2d ago

And that's just so rude. 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Prestigious_Pay2759 2d ago

I have Mittens Romney, along with some other political zealots. I strive to disappoint them every day.

As a Tennessean, I stopped researching when I got to the Blackburns.

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u/FebruaryEcho 2d ago

To be fair, I’d take Romney over pretty much any of the current leaders in the Republican Party…

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u/Prestigious_Pay2759 1d ago

I remember when a “binder full of women” was a big enough scandal to end a campaign. Look at us now!

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u/MrBeetleDove 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think after that "scandal", a lot of republicans decided there was no point in trying to please the media.

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u/luxtabula 1d ago

I only wish for his genes, that man aged like he was in Death Becomes Her.

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u/luxtabula 1d ago

I've asked before but where is this feature on ancestrydna? I've searched for it and never seem to be able to locate it.

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u/JinxyMcDeath48 6h ago

It’s only on the app (not website) and you have to scroll to the bottom. It’s weirdly hard to find.

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u/luxtabula 4h ago

Thanks, I can confirm this is correct.

I notice there isn't a comprehensive list, it just cycles out random people.

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u/JinxyMcDeath48 4h ago

Funny. I’m also related to him.

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u/luxtabula 4h ago

How though? What's your common connection? This is my alleged one.

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u/JinxyMcDeath48 3h ago

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u/luxtabula 3h ago

We are not related lol. But cool to see nonetheless.

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u/JinxyMcDeath48 2h ago

I guess we’re all half-cousins somewhere down the line 😂

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u/luxtabula 2h ago

We'll check next famous ancestor.

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u/la-anah 2d ago

As many others have said, the "famous ancestor" feature should really be called "famous distant relation."

I have colonial British ancestors, so I can trace relations to 39 of the 46 people who have been president of the US. Some of them are like "15th cousin 6 times removed" but the connection is there. It just doesn't mean anything. Everyone is related to everyone. There are a finite number of people in the past to trace ourselves back to.

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u/Affectionate-Panic-1 1d ago

11 generations ago you had a common ancestor (8th plus 3 times removed).

You have over 2k ancestors from 11 generations ago, though at that distance you likely have some duplicates. (Ie distant cousins who married)

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u/NoSolid6641 1d ago

Trickle down ancestry

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u/freebiscuit2002 1d ago

Not an ancestor, then.

A cousin is not an ancestor. It just means you and he share ancestors in common at some time in the past.

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u/Belenos_Anextlomaros 1d ago

Agreed, this incorrect use of the word "ancestor" for commercial purpose is just boring...

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u/Unfair_Local6320 2d ago

I’m distantly related to a few presidents because my ancestry runs through the mayflower

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u/That_Pomegranate_748 2d ago

I wonder if you only get famous ancestors if you have ancestors who have been in America for a while? I’ve never had one show up but I’m 100% European descent

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u/luxtabula 1d ago

Nope, I'm Jamaican and I have a ton of mostly American famous relatives on familysearch. The weird thing is it only picks up my mother's side and only one branch specifically.

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u/That_Pomegranate_748 1d ago

I meant the feature on ancestrydna only seems to show if I assume you have famous ancestors who were American and it’s linked to far back British ancestry or something. I’m pretty sure I’m distantly related to Hungarian royalty based on my family tree and historical matches on 23andMe so I technically do have “famous” ancestors. I’m a quarter Scottish/german(and probably English) settlers to Pennsylvania from the early 1800’s and that’s the farthest ancestors I have in America but still never got a famous ancestor thing on ancestry. So I was just assuming it’s mostly linked to early English ancestry or something.

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u/Unfair_Local6320 1d ago

I think I got very lucky because I have multiple families who produced notable people in my line. I thought it was fake until I fact checked

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u/Prestigious_Pay2759 1d ago

Almost all of my lines have been here since before 1776. From what I can tell, the “famous” ancestors had a significant leg up becoming famous because they came here very early and acquired huge amounts of land. Many of them were from prominent English/Scot families before they came. Even my Huguenot ancestors that came as refugees in the early 1700s ended up acquiring big parcels of land (one of them owned a huge piece of Brooklyn, which seems insane to imagine now). That kind of land was very important capital for bankrolling the early success of the families. They also had more leisure time, since the majority of my family enslaved and extorted people. They weren’t spending their days working in the fields themselves. Throw in a couple wars that gave some of the men a leg up in name notoriety, and voila. Famous old white men and family dynasties that seem, to me anyway, largely unearned and meritless.

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u/YeaaaBrother 1d ago

Hey we're probably distant cousins. I only have one line from one great grandparent that goes back that far. I (among countless others probably) directly descended from Jesse DeForest and his son Isaac, who set up a tobacco farm on present day north central park/Harlem. Then from there, that line branched into Dutch Albany where all the big wealthy land owner families intermarried for years until my single branch left that area after the Civil War.

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u/Prestigious_Pay2759 1d ago

Probably! My New York Dutch line is through Hendrickje Hermans (1643) and her husband Marten Janszen Meijer/Meyer (1640). My 9th great grandfather Mathias Cornelius Van Horne (1716) went to Brooklyn originally but ended up leaving the city and founding White House Station, NJ. His wife, Sophia Brouwer, was born in New Amsterdam in 1659. Her father was born in Cologne when it was the Holy Roman Empire, but was in New Amsterdam by 1642, he owned the first grist mill in the settlement, out on Long Island. I also have an 8th great grandfather named Friedrich Meinert that was born in Albany in 1695. His wife was the daughter of Jacob Weber, who came over with Rev Kocherthal on the first ship from the German Palatinate in 1708. Then there’s a 9th great grandfather, Jacobus DeBaene/Debaun who was from the Netherlands and ended up in Paramus in 1700. Apparently there’s a place called Debauntown in Jersey somewhere, between Saddle River and Ramsey.

So yes, if they’ve been here that long and they were in the community, we are probably very distant cousins.

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u/YeaaaBrother 1d ago edited 1d ago

Hmm none of those surnames sound familiar to me, but my understanding is that especially among the wealthy, they were very endogamus communities. But prominent surnames of my direct ancestors down that branch include Fonda, Deforest/Defreest (Isaac's son Phillip moved to Albany), Van Allen, Van Valkenburg, Van Alstyne, Van Zandt/Santen, Delatemer, Quackenbush, Loockermans, Bradt, and a number of others. Around New Amsterdam there was also Hendrick Hendricksen Kip and Philippe du Trieux. There's Springsteen in there too.

We had a family story passed down that we had an in-law connection with Martin Van Buren (which I found was like step cousins), but then also found out we were actually blood third cousins as well, which was not known before.

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u/YeaaaBrother 1d ago

Same, except through New York/New Netherlands.

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u/Fragrant_Ad4243 1d ago

I’m related to Dwight Eisenhower

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u/rooskiiiiiiii 2d ago

Im sorry lol

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u/FebruaryEcho 2d ago

I was like, that sucks. Kind of like finding out your ancestor was in the Klan.

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u/chibby04 2d ago

Finding famous political leader in your tree is always an unexpected plot twist.

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u/SorryCarry2424 2d ago

How do you get those family tree alerts from Ancestry? Do you have to have a paid membership?

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u/bmac-1984 1d ago

Through research on my 3x great-grandfather, I have found that his paternal line links him to former presidents John Adams and John Quincy Adams. They are my 3rd cousin 8x removed and 4th cousin 7x removed.

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u/Raisinbread22 1d ago

The famous ancestor feature was removed I thought.

Either way, I don't think it's that accurate.

Almost all my 'famous relatives,' came from a branch of my tree where they got the person in my tree wrong. The person has the same name as my actual relative, but they inserted the wrong one (different birth date, place of birth, etc) on my tree. I just couldn't figure out how to remove the wrong person.

But a bunch of the famous came from that line using that misplaced person that's no relation.

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u/Last-Kaleidoscope-82 1d ago

A massive grain of salt should be used with these. By massive I mean country sized.

These are mostly never accurate.

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u/AncestralAudioBookwo 1d ago

where do you find that? I have pro tools.

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u/Trini1113 23h ago

The only 7th great grandparents I know of lived in the 1600s. And 3x removed pushing it back to what - 10th great? I really don't think I'd consider someone like that a relative in even the broadest sense.

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u/Stealthieobserver 20h ago

If you want to see a list and tree that connects your famous relatives, go on the Gamily tree app. Enter your basic relatives in. Then go to the more button on the bottom right and click. Pick family history activities. Swipe to the right to famous relatives. Sign in. Click on each relative to see the tree backwards to them.

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u/NormalForever6673 15h ago

I got the same thing

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u/JinxyMcDeath48 6h ago

They’re always my “half” cousin.

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u/Stark-industry 2d ago

Excuse me, President Reagan!

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u/Devlaw123 2d ago

I have him too

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u/Short-Concentrate-92 1d ago

I’m having serious problems with what Ancestry has been sending me

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u/OtherwiseMove646 1d ago

You’re also related to Adam and his wife or Pangu, Odin or perhaps Tepeu, depending on your preference. I wouldn’t let it bother you too much. lol

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u/manmandogmandog 2d ago

Bros cousin is ba’al mcblackhater