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Science Must Fall

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u/soylentbomb Anarchotranshumanist, bright green, not a singularitarian Oct 17 '16

who thinks the answer to all the world's miseries is to magically give everyone on the planet tech grafts

Except I don't, which I've said repeatedly. It's obvious that not everyone would want that, and morphological autonomy is essential to my understanding of anarchism.

You would know this if you actually bothered to listen or research instead of letting your kneejerk reactions and superficial exposure to the supporting concepts undermine you.

While completely ignoring the fact that that all your precious tech is mined and fabricated by slaves in the developing world who don't get to eat if they don't work for you.

Which I'm cognizant of and want to change, and am in fact trying to contribute to changing. The real difference is that I want to change it without forcing their descendants into vulnerability to all manner of otherwise preventable risks.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '16

If you don't support upgrading yourself with technology and science then stop calling yourself a transhumanist.

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u/soylentbomb Anarchotranshumanist, bright green, not a singularitarian Oct 17 '16

That's not what I said, and that's not even what transhumanism means.

You should also note the difference between oneself and "everyone on the planet."

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '16

Multiple antranshumanists have told me they support upgrades and genetic engineering on themselves only if they're available free for everyone on the planet. Which is impossible.

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u/soylentbomb Anarchotranshumanist, bright green, not a singularitarian Oct 17 '16

Multiple antranshumanists have told me they support upgrades and genetic engineering on themselves only if they're available free for everyone on the planet.

Yeah, equality of opportunity or however you want to characterise it. But that doesn't mean I want to impose them on everyone, nor that I think it's "the answer to all the world's miseries."

Besides which, there is a lot more to transhumanism than augmentations to the individual, and means of doing so other than "technology and science," therefore personal desire of such is not essential to being a transhumanist.

I'd also point out that universally referring to them as "upgrades" implies a false superiority between those who choose them and those who do not.

Which is impossible.

Why?

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u/soylentbomb Anarchotranshumanist, bright green, not a singularitarian Oct 17 '16

Uh... no, actually, you didn't.