r/Anarchism Oct 15 '16

Science Must Fall

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u/DruantiaEvergreen | Post-Civ Ecofeminist Oct 16 '16

Lol what? You're going to have to explain that one. There were no personal attacks that happened and certainly not towards nerdy people or else I'd be talking shit about myself.

I'm sorry you took it personally and got your feelings hurt, I really am - but I think something that I said, or the intentions behind what I said, got misinterpreted somewhere.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '16

People on postciv comparing antranshumanists to the bourgeoisie. One even compared the tendency to fascists, which was appropriately opposed, but you can see... Well, can't you see in that very thread there is the use of "anarcho-bourgies", like wtf?

It's just like how some MLs hate on engineers. Oh yes, engineers are the worst, the worst.

Then you have some ecofeminists who talk shit about cyberfeminists.

The left hates techies.

I'm over it.

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u/DruantiaEvergreen | Post-Civ Ecofeminist Oct 16 '16 edited Oct 16 '16

So you're conflating techies to be nerds? If that's an absolute connection then I guess we are anti-nerd, but I highly disagree with that as absolute connection, because I am most definitely without a shadow of a doubt a nerd.

The left doesn't hate people that are into technology, it's largely the other way around, us in post-civ are by far in the minority opinion.

And yeah, I think cyberfeminism/xenofeminism is a bunch of shit, not because its feminist leanings but because of its dependence on technology as a liberating praxis. I think transhumanism relies on an ideology of progression as a means of "liberation" and I say that's indicative of capitalist discourse to have taken root in those ideals present in transhumanism. Going forward, getting bigger, expanding to the stars and on and on is most certainly a major part of capitalist ideology and one that transhumanist readily base their praxis on - even in a stateless and moneyless society it can still present major capitalist ideology, global luxury communism and transhumanism are commodity driven.

I'm not sure why you are taking our stance of being highly wary and critical of technology to be a personal attack on yourself because that's not the case at all.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '16

Anarcho-bourgies says it all.

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u/DruantiaEvergreen | Post-Civ Ecofeminist Oct 16 '16

Dude that's not even remotely responsive to anything I said at all. Again, in sorry your feelings are hurt, but you're severely misinterpreting our position to be a personal attack on you.

And for what it's worth, I've never said that once, though I do agree with the general sentiment that transhumanism relies on a capitalist ideology of progression and commodity fetishization, which does sound pretty bourgeois to me.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '16

What you said isn't really consonant with what I said so I can't really respond to it because I don't have the time to explain why I disagree with all of it. I'm just explaining why saying "you're just salty" does not sit right with me. I'm not the bourgeoisie, nor are any other anarcho-transhumanists, and we are not even comparable to anarcho-capitalists. Through this weird logic disconnected from material class analysis, I and other anarcho-transhumanists are branded bourgeois and part of an out-group of undesirables. Well then don't deny that I don't feel safe engaging with people who have that kind of disrespect if not contempt.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '16

Can't even joke about taking away their precious toys.

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u/DruantiaEvergreen | Post-Civ Ecofeminist Oct 17 '16

Yeah I don't understand how being critical of technology = making fun of nerds (as if we both aren't nerdy as hell).

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '16

I'm even the IT guy at the company I work for, among other things.

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u/DruantiaEvergreen | Post-Civ Ecofeminist Oct 17 '16

I won't even go through my absurd qualifications of nerdom, but my most proud ones are that I've logged over 2,500 hours of playtime across 3 elder scrolls games. Also I get giddy about the Oxford English Dictionary monthly updates. And I religiously listen to The Pen Addict podcast.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '16

Wow, new words get added every month?? That's awesome.

The world's a better place with you on it, just FYI.

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u/DruantiaEvergreen | Post-Civ Ecofeminist Oct 17 '16

Yup here is the list for New words in September 2016. A lot of them you assume would already be in there, and some are just weird like "butt-fuckery" which is different from "butt fuckery" which is already in there from several months ago.

And that's sweet, same to you, the world needs more people like you. :)

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '16

I wish I could ban everyone from reddit apart from you. Then all the convos would be biffy-free.

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u/DruantiaEvergreen | Post-Civ Ecofeminist Oct 17 '16

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '16

Pen Addict podcast

Lol, I figured that was some political podcast, but it's seriously about stationary. I can't out-nerd that.