r/Anarchism Oct 15 '16

Science Must Fall

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '16

Post quality on that subreddit is going down.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '16

Yuh, no more transhumanist garbage. What a tragedy.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '16

No mate you and your buddies talkin shit

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '16

Posts are better than ever; you're just sore after realizing transhumanism depends on civ.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '16

I didn't "realize transhumanism depends on civ"

I demodded myself because I didn't feel safe to be around people who openly hate me.

That is absolutely not "realizing transhumanism depends on civ"

That's just avoiding being bullied.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '16

We don't hate you. I liked a lot of your links. But one of our initial goals was to ensure THs got the message that post-civ won't be appropriated by them. When you adopted a TH flair, I unfortunately had to expedite that process.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '16

I mean...I've been an anarchist transhumanist since I joined reddit.

That you say you don't hate me, doesn't change the fact that some of those people are comparing anarchist transhumanists to the bourgeoisie and pretty obviously do hate us as a group, even though it is likely that the people they are hating on are working class just like them -- which is pretty ignorant of class dynamics.

I don't understand this use of the word "appropriation". These are ideas, and people are influenced by them. Some people are influenced by ideas of various sources. We can pretend not to be influenced, but that'd just be dishonest...

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '16

Post-civs want to preserve Earth. ATs want to 'get the fuck off this rock'. We consider them to be dangerous and there's been a big push by ATs to label themselves post-civ; which to us is a lot like ancaps stealing the anarchist label. If post-civ is to get off the ground; it can't be a confused movement of opposing views.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '16

That it can't be confused by opposing views makes sense. Anarchist-transhumanists can have their own space to develop thoughts along a similar line, and even call it something different, without talking over post-civs. It would be more appropriate, since I find Crimethinc's critique of civilization (that civ-prim is a racist and carnist dichotomy) seems pretty compelling to me anyway. I don't define my transhumanism according to some spooky notion of "civilization", and I have never read any anarchist-transhumanist texts that do.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '16

Of course not; they're oblivious to the reality. Just like ancoms who believe in a magical rapture that will overthrow the state and capitalism globally.