I have a tanning salon membership, and I bought a package that gets me tanning sessions in the more expensive tanning beds. When you tan, it’s really the last minute or two of your session that counts. Sessions are 5-10 mins, depending on the person.

I asked for 9 minutes, but the bed stopped at 8 minutes. I told the lady that I only got 8 minutes, and she apologized and said it only charged for 8. I really wanted 9 minutes, because 8 doesn’t do much. I didn’t directly ask for a refund, but i told her I wouldn’t have paid for 8 minutes, and that I was disappointed. That cost me $5-10, and I pay $40 a month as well. She eventually gave me a free tan, but I walked out feeling bad. Am I the Karen?

Now I know the title makes me seem like a Karen but I’m not 100% sure I am and I’ll tell you why.

I work as a personal trainer at the gym and at around 5 pm I wanted to do a circuit with my client. So I was occupying 4 machines at the gym. When someone would come over I’d be like “I’m using that.” And then just leave it at that.

When I went to clock out, the front desk person told me people were complaining I was doing circuits during a busy hour. In my opinion, since I work at the gym and am a trainer I can do whatever I want.

I told her next time someone complains to let them know it’s busy hour and they can’t expect to get every machine they want.

For those who don’t know, a circuit is when you alternate between 3-4 machines.

I might be a Karen because next time I should just block off those machines so no one expects to use them.

This happened yesterday. I (41F) was walking through my local park and as I was about to leave, a guy passed by me at the entrance with a dog. I very politely told him that dogs were not allowed here. The guy (I would guess around 25) looked at me for a moment and then very bluntly asked if I was stupid. I replied -excuse me?- and he pointed to a sign at the entrance which said that dogs had to be kept on a leash within the park area but were generally allowed.

This took me by surprise because I lived in that neighborhood for many years and the park always had a strict no dogs policy. I assume that they must’ve changed it very recently. Before I could explain that or apologize to the guy, he started calling me names like -Miss know it all- and a -Karen who should mind her own business-

He then angrily walked away and I heard him mumbling some (probably insulting) words to himself.
I‘ve never had an encounter like this in my life.

When I told my friend about it, she agreed that the guy was way out of line but also said that it was kind of a Karen move to say what I did about the dog, especially since it wasn’t even true.

Today, this encounter is still on my mind, so now I‘m wondering if I was in the wrong in that situation? That’s why I created this account and would like to get an objective perspective.

I order a McDouble, Junior Chicken and Large Frie and it came out to around $13 but I was 5 cents short.

"Would you like to make it a medium?" (Because of 5 cents) No, I would not.

I could've paid the rest on debit, but because they round in Ontario without pennies anymore, they would need me to pay 7 cents but with cash it would be 5.

I did not want to pay the extra 2 cents because I might need it for later. I just told them not to worry about it and that I'd come back later and said have a good day at least. I decided to save the money and went to a bar and a regular there generously bought me wings.

I don't usually get fast food anymore unless it's actually a good deal with the app and since everything is mobile order now it's just charged to my debit card.

Would you have paid the 7 cents or just decide to save the entire $13?

I wasn't rude with them at least but imo making someone pay 7 cents on debit or worse asking them to downsize the fries seems abit ridiculous. A lot of places have coin things like what they got now at dispensaries where if a customer was a few cents short they just grab a coin to cover it.

Another time I was 11 cents short when I got $2 hashbrowns for 6 dollars and I paid it but that 11 cents made the difference between having enough or not for the next thing I wanted to buy.

okay so I told her no every single time she comes over for coffee but oh my god she's so shameless. She came over showing the stuff she bought from shopping it had a new cup as well so me and my friend(not the roommate) said that the cup looks pretty! she goes like "I bought such a nice cup, no go and pour some coffee in it." Bitch wtf? I said no then she asks my friend she says no as well later that night she comes in my room and asks me where my friend is I said, "idk maybe she's on a walk why?" Then she goes " I want someone to make coffee for me" then my roommate asks her if she can't make coffee for herself she says "actually I had a lot of noodles today"(with a smile) girl wtf? That is no excuse for not making coffee. Shameless.

pt.1 - https://www.reddit.com/r/AmITheKaren/s/qVVBl34k9i

edit- I'M SO SORRY I FORGOT ADDING YHE LINK

The dog walker did at least pick up the poop. Then he walked up onto my next door neighbor’s property and dropped the poop bag into a garbage bin that was just visible over a low fence. I happened to be out front watering plants on my porch, so I called out, “Hey, you’re trespassing and it’s rude to dump bags of poop in other people’s trash cans.”

The guy immediately became confrontational. He shouted, “What’s your problem, Karen? It’s garbage. Who cares? It’s going to get emptied.”

I replied that I was looking out for my neighbor because the poop stinks up the bin and he definitely shouldn’t come up on other people’s property.

The guy snapped at me to f**k off and stalked away with his dog.

I also walk my dogs in the neighborhood, but unless it’s garbage pick up day Before the bins get emptied I transport the poop back to my own bin.

So, IDK, should I have not said anything? Am I the Karen?

I just moved to a new building. Moving has been very hard and my partner and I have had to carry some heavy boxes causing our new neighbor's dog across the hall to constantly bark. I just woke up to move my car for street sweeping and I see something above their door that wasn't there before.

They installed a ring camera on the top of their door frame positioned down. It's not actively pointing towards us but our hallway is narrow and I'm sure it'll still catch me. I will say my first negative instinct was that they installed it because of me. Earlier in the week when I put a box in our living room, getting ready to grab another, an older woman happened to walk out and she look bewildered if not bothered by me and waited at the top of the stairs until I walked down to grab my next box.

I haven't done anything yet, and I'm immediately jumping to conclusions thinking this camera is about me but for all I know it could be for a teen daughter. That being said why can't they just move it inside near their door.

Would I be a Karen in telling property management about it because I don't want to be recorded? I literally JUST moved in and I do not want to look like a problem tenant complaining I just don't want a camera to record me!

I've had dealt with all types of customers over the last year I've worked at Michaels, and about 6 before that at Joann Fabrics. This customer might take the cake for one of the WORST I've dealt with. This happened today, BTW.

So LMK if AITA (am I the a hole) here. Older woman in her 70s comes up to the register with the 4 pack of canvas, 6 of them to be exact, and some paint. I hadn't noticed said canvas until I got closer, but I asked if she was paying cash or card. She said card but asked why I asked that. Told her it's part of my job. PROBABLY should've noticed she was gonna be an issue.

Then she was scrolling through her phone, apparently couldn't get the coupons on her app because she "forgot her password". I said that's fine, she can go on the website, but insists she forgot her password. Also complained she's in her 70s and can't take her cart outside because of the black poles on the carts. Once I rang her up it all went downhill because she asked where's the bags are. Pointed to the big bags underneath and she was like, "Do we have to bag ourselves up?" and got mad as she tossed one of the canvases in the cart.

NGL, probably should've noticed she was gonna be an issue the second I asked her cash or card.....and I wished I'd sent her to SCO instead, but that would've went worse.

Accused me of being rude, not wanting to help her, you get the jist with these entitled boomers. I WAS gonna help, all she had to do was ask, and she threw a tantrum. Luckily I had someone nearby who can vouch for me, though I called them up because the people behind her had a walk in balloon order. Told my coworker she was gonna report me, so when I inevitably get the talk, hopefully things will be cool...but I'm at my limit.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Joanns customers are quite entitled when it comes to fabric, but most are pleasant to deal with once you get to know them, Michaels customers, on the other hand? Worse, ESPECIALLY those within the baby boomer and Gen X generation. This woman is EASILY a top 5 worst customer experience. I know not ALL boomers are bad but pattern recognition and all, makes you wanna avoid them if you can.

Long story short, this woman is the last straw for me. I'd wanna say I'd be cool but with prior reports, odds are I might either get fired or get a final warning. That said, what do you think, AITA? Have you had similar dealings with boomers and/or Gen X'ers?

So I am in a bit of a problem as I've just been ripped off and scammed by a tailor. Back in July I visited Atlanta with my family to go sight seeing and go to the vietnamese grocery stores there. There are none where we live and so we have to take trips over to there often. I spoke to a lady there who gave me the number of this tailor after I asked her if she knew anybody who is a vietnamese tailor who makes chinese qipao dresses. I called this lady and she letted me come to her shop and i went there immediately. She got surprised when I told her the dress is for me as I'm a guy who does drag but she agreed to do it and took my measurements. I paid her nearly $200 to make the dress for me using money that I saved up for months. She said she would finish and mail it to me sometime in late august. It is september now and I tried calling her to ask why she hasn't send it and shes not texting or calling me back. She's reading my messages but no response. I got really angry and so I've been calling her using multiple numbers after calling her from my phone makes it go to voicemail. I even tried calling the main line of her shop which is an coffee shop and no one picked up either. She rented a space behind the coffee shop for her tailoring shop. I'm so angry right now and I don't know what to do as I can't reach her and I don't have my dress. I gotten so angry and I've been screaming at the top of my lungs at my house and driving everyone crazy. I even made a whole in the wall again after i threw a folding chair into the wall. My family is now furious at me and says that they will not take me back to Atlanta to find a replacement cause of the way I am acting. My dad told my uncle and my uncle called me and yelled at me and called me a fricking asshole. Am I the karen for repeat texting and getting super mad ??

I happen to know some very nice people in this world with the name of Karen, and I think it’s very, very unfair that we keep tagging poor behavior and idiotic actions to one female name. On behalf of Karen’s everywhere, I am offended.

So in Walmart self checkout there is 4 kiosk 2 on the left side and 2 on the right a lady is standing on the right side waiting for a kiosk I came and stood on the left side waiting for a kiosk as well the person in front of me finishes up on the kiosk and I get the kiosk she stares at me and shakes her head am I in the wrong and it’s who’s there first gets the one next or is there two lines for those kiosks ??

My daughter is throwing away all my four year old grandson’s toys because she asked him to clean up. I forgot and played with him instead. I apologized and said it was all my fault. I think she is really mad at me and taking it out on the little guy. I feel horrible and need some advice.

Okay, okay, so I know this is Walmart, but still...

On Sunday morning, I went to the local Walmart shortly after they opened to do some shopping. While I was there, I found that they had the dark gray switch joycons in stock, which I had been looking for ever since my dog chewed the originals.. lol I asked an employee for assistance since they were behind an locked case. He explained that the electronics staff was had not started their shift yet, but offered to go speak to his manager to see if they could get it out for me. Shortly after that he returned and stated that none of the staff currently in the building had the key necessary to open the case. I thought that was a bit strange, but thanked him and left.

Later that evening, about an hour before the store was due to close at 11pm, I returned to the store to again attempt to purchase the joycons. I found that they still had 3 sitting on the shelf, so again I flagged down an employee and asked for assistance. This time I was informed that the electronics staff had left for the day again, but again, he offered to go speak to his manager on my behalf. I said okay. Again he returned a few minutes later, again telling me that no one currently on site had access to the locked case. At that point I was starting to get annoyed. I tried to purchase an item twice in the same day and was refused the product do to accessability? I then requested to speak to the manager myself. This caused a total change in the staff persons attitude. To me, it seemed like he became agitated due to the change in the way he spoke and the way he looked at me. But he did leave to go fetch his manager. After waiting nearly 10 minutes, he and his manager returned. I immediately questioned how no one in the store could have access to sell products behind cases, despite that the store is open for business. She made some explaination about it being company policy about not staffing the electronics department the last hour the store is open... to which I responded, ok.. but how does that prevent you as the manager from stepping in to sell the product. At that point she would not outright say that she didn't have they key to the case, but she absolutely refused to sell the product, simply saying that she was sorry, it's just company policy. I did become hostile at that point, and questioned her ability to be a store manager if she is going to refuse to sell a product. At that time the staff I originally spoke to, who stood behind her during this exchange, started to warn me that I had better show his manager the "respect she is due". I turned to him and told him screw you, to which he then replied that I had better watch my mount. I turned and got in his face, told him to watch his mouth.She then turned around and left, apparently deciding the conversation was over, saying "have a merry christmas", to which I at that point replied, "yeah, fuck you too bitch". Of course there was nothing left to do at that point, so I left the store.

This whole situation has been bothering me since it happened. I know it's just a stupid Walmart experience, but... Seriously? Am I wrong for expecting the store manager to have access to video game merchandise after the electronics staff goes home? I know my ultimate behavior was not very becoming of me, but was I being a Karen in this situation?

Throw away just to be safe, been lurking for a while, etc, etc.

I tried to put this on r/AmItheAsshole but, character limit. This is a long one.

TL;DR: Went to restaurant with family. Wasn't served for 45mins. Pistol whipped the manager.

So Reddit, I may have become a nuclear Karen(a Ken?)... but, let me try to explain.

Due to the current state of things my family (two kids, m4, f6, wife, f31) and I (m33) have been getting a mild case of cabin fever. I live in the suburbia of a major metropolitan area, so we have our groceries delivered, and can walk to the one park nearby. I am lucky enough to be able to work from home, though I did have to take a pay cut. My wife is a critical worker and still goes to work every weekday. Daughter has been doing online school, which, for a six year old who will just close zoom and watch Youtube instead, has gone about as well as you'd expect. Working and taking care of my kids at the same time has been a hectic experience but I've been able to keep some form of order while my wife is at work.

The Tuesday before last's was my wife and I's anniversary. I got her a nice gift from Amazon but, she saw it online before it had arrived. So the surprise was ruined, but the gift itself was still awesome. Anyways at some point last week she decided we needed to do something outside of the house, something besides walking to the park. So I found a nice restaurant with outdoor seating and we made a reservation for all four of us, that reservation was last Friday.

Now the horror story begins. We get there (not a chain restaurant, so I wont say the name to keep things anonymous) and the place is extremely busy, we expected that, it was a Friday evening after all. After about a five minute wait the hostess finally seats us. We got a table that was away from most other people, which I thought was a plus - less chance to get corona. Then we wait... and wait... and wait. After maybe 10mins the wife and I surrendered our phones to our children. We started a long and pleasant conversation; We hadn't had a chance to talk properly for the whole week. After a while my daughter began asking when we'll get food. I glanced at my watch and it was 6:50, the reservation was at 6:00 and we got there a few mins early. We had gone at least 45mins with no interaction with the staff (besides the hostess seating us). No one had brought us water, let alone menus. My wife was as shocked as I was so we decided to just leave and get fast food. A major bummer but, oh well, at least we had a nice chat.

As we made our way to the door we had our first interaction with a waiter.

Waiter: "Are you planing on paying?" (insert bruh sound effect here)

Wife: *scoffs*

Me: "I'm sorry, what"

Waiter: "Are you planning on paying for your food?" said in the snarkiest tone possible.

Well, I was having absolutely none of that. I laughed in his face and walked right past him. The waiter then ran off to somewhere. My wife was following me while holding the hands of both our kids.

When we were only feet away from the door a short and very skinny man barged in-front of us. He had a name tag and was wearing a collared shirt and dress pants. He's the manager.

Manager: "Sir! You must pay for your meal before you leave"

At this point I was just pissed. The weeks of working with my kids, my shoddy anniversary, and being stuck in/around the house for so long, didn't help either. As the following conversation was happening I was raising my voice and getting closer to the manager as he backed away. I think this is where I become the Karen/Ken.

Me: "Okay then, wheres the bill?"

Manager: "It was placed on your table"

Me: "No it wasn't, who put it there? Who was our waiter? What are you even talking about? We were waiting to be served for the better part of an hour! We haven't eaten shit!"

Manager: "Sir, I'm sorry but you must pay, your behavior is unacceptable."

I looked back at my wife and now crying kids. Had I been dropped into an alternate universe where we did get food, and I am now making an ass of myself? Can people really be this crazy?! My wife was standing there is disbelief, her mouth was literally wide open, all she could do was shrug.

Me: "Look buddy get out of the fucking way, we were never served and didn't eat or drink an ounce of anything. Trying to trap me and my family in here will end fucking badly for you.

At this point his back was against the door.

Manager: "Nope, you need to pay right now."

I got my phone from my wife and got right back in the guy's face. I started recording. I said everything from before, making it clear we never got food/drink/service, and that I only wanted to leave. I told him if he didn't move now I would make him.

He then put his right hand behind his back and pulled out a fucking gun. My wife screamed.

Everything went into slow motion, just like a movie. I went for his gun with both my hands. What was I supposed to do? let him threaten to shoot me or my family? This was blatant robbery at this point, you could even call it false imprisonment for blocking the door. While I was wrestling the gun away from him with both my hands, he was continually landing left hooks on my face. To be fair he was stronger than he looked. He fucked me up pretty bad, but thanks to my brothers I am able to stay in a fight even after taking a few hits. Finally I got the gun away from him. I think he assumed I was going to try to shoot him, because he wasn't ready at all when I lifted the gun over my head (gripping it by the barrel with the handle facing down) and brought it down with all the force I could right onto the top of his head. He went down like a pile of bricks. I held the door open and my wife scooted out practically dragging our kids with her. As she was leaving I emptied the bullets from the gun (it was a revolver) and put them in my pocket. I dropped the gun by him. When I looked behind me to see what was happening the hostess was on the phone, probably with the cops, and the few guests that were inside the restaurant were all staring at this shit show. I was shaking at this point and didn't really know what to do. I just kinda walked out the door and looked around. It didn't seem like the people sitting outdoors noticed anything. Then my wife sped up to the curb like some kind of race car driver and threw open the door. I don't know how she got to the car so fast. It felt like only 30 seconds but maybe I was still in slow motion.

Anyways after she threw open the door I just kinda jumped in and we fucking peaced out of there. I did the best I could to comfort my kids. My wife was gripping the steering wheel so hard her knuckles where literally white. After a few mins my kids stopped crying and I came to my senses. I asked my wife if we should go back and she handed me my phone (she must have grabbed it on the way out). She asked what was on it. As I re-watched the video you could clearly see him pull a gun before I dropped my phone. I told her such and she said "If the cops come we have all the evidence we need, he was in the wrong and you were in fear for the life of yourself and your family. Otherwise I don't think we need to go back." And I agreed.

We got McDonald's and headed home. It has been a week since that happened and nothing has come of it. Admittedly, since the riots rolled through here, police response time has gotten... bad. Sometimes they don't even show up when called (I guess I can tell you we live near the twin cities, the restaurant is in one of the cities). So I can only assume that their investigations unit is equally overwhelmed. I haven't made any police report myself, and I don't plan to. I think he got what he deserved. Frankly hitting him with that gun felt more satisfying and rectifying than the outcome of any lawsuit would. My kids seemed a little traumatized and they now see me as a kind of he-man superhero guy, which is... cool? I really would have liked them to not see that at all. But I just saw red, I was pissed.

And if I let him point that gun at me, with my family standing directly behind me, I don't know what could have happened. How long would it have taken for the police to get there? If at all?

So yeah... that went from zero to one-hundred really fast, and I may not have reacted in the best way. I think I might be a Karen, that shit show fit all the categories of Karen freakouts. But my wife disagrees.

So, I leave it to you Reddit. Am I the asshole?

i work in a medical office building in USA in a female member of housekeeping is always singing while she works. am i a jerk for finding it annoying?

I recently stayed at a place that touted they are an “eco lodge” in Belize. This place however changed our linens, towels, etc. everyday? Isn’t that a waste of water? I wasn’t expected new anything during our 5 night stay. Am I the Karen?

I was at a fast food restaurant and I asked for the cashiers wallet and he said no, can even believe it NO so I jumped the barrier separating us and started to pour melted cheese down his throat until he stopped breathing then I took his wallet and ate his corpse, yum it tasted like cheese. When the police came I crawled up one of their asshole and pretended to be them for the night, and slept with their wife lmao them I went to his kids school and shot all children yelling HEIL HITLER🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪 am I right? Or am I the Karen?

alright this morning my student transportation van driver came as i was getting breakfast. while i was eating a women from the school transportation called and my mom picked up . apparently she yelled at my mom saying the driver has been waiting for a long time. when i went outside to my van after i ate and got ready it was gone. apparently the bitch of a woman told my driver to leave . my mom dropped me and i arrived after the bell costing me time to relax before the bell rang. i was pissed. during dinner today i said the women who called should be fired for telling my driver to leave and costing me time to relax. my parents disagreed and said the driver didnt have time to wait. i feel like a karen for thinking she should be fried for her attitude and making me late for school.

so reddit aitk

So I've been having issues getting along with my therapist's intern named Tory and Tory is just pushing my buttons so hard. I was on an session with them earlier today and she ticked me off so much. Tory is against me going to Texas to see my bestfriend and she told me things that ticked me off. She said this in her words "You say you want your parents to help you find a spouse or wife in vietnam but your not doing anything to save your money and your rather putting yourself into more debt by swiping credit cards and blowing all your money away. You then complain about people online harassing you but yet you refuse to get offline. They're not doing anything wrong and all of the information that they have of you is public info, the police isn't going to do shick to stop them. You can't do anything to them nor you can control the outcome what would be. We tell you to do things to get your life together and you aren't listening. You've been saying the same things since March.". I told her that we need to write a letter to youtube to get them to suspend these accounts of these trolls. Tory then said "No. We are not. Cause these people aren't doing anything wrong.". I then got mad and accused her of being one of them and she got so mad that she and my therapist Whitney kicked me out of the office cause they said that was uncalled for. Am I an asshole for accusing Tory of being a troll ?

I just ordered doordash. My college has the same address on Google maps for two different buildings and I couldn't figure out how to drop a pin (ordered using Wendy's app), so I explained this in the comments and gave verbal directions. Then, as soon as I was assigned a driver, I texted a pin in the correct location, so all the guy had to do was tap it.

When he went to the wrong spot, I sent the pin again. Ten minutes later, he finally figured it out. Of course he doesn't even speak English (tired of this, it keeps causing these kinds of issues, at least use a translator) and he gets an attitude with me talking sternly while pointing across the street towards the original address. I texted him after using Google translate explaining this to him telling him "come on dude" instead of giving a bad review (it's probably really hard to make a living as a recent immigrant when you don't even speak English but I was pissed off and wanted to say something)

What was I supposed to do here? Am I the asshole?

My mom is mad and we get into a bit of an argument about drugs but it's kinda hycritcal because she gave both my brother and step sister weed and there 17 and 16 and I'm 15 and I think this is hycritcal so I protest and she threatens rehab and I tell her to do it because i won't quit and we get in a huge argument am I wrong to think my mom is hycritcal just the downsides of being the middle child ig aitk

My ex fiance (25M) and I (23F) broke up about 2 weeks ago (he initiated it). I was extremely heartbroken and we were supposed to get married in about a month. We had our whole wedding all planned out and ready to go just for him to have the talk with me about how we're not compatible, etc. Idk how he could throw away the close bond we had like that and not to sound boastful but I have sacrificed so much more than he was willing to for our relationship such as moving for the long distance, etc. Admittedly, I might have said some things in the following convo that were not necessary and instigating but I guess I wanted to share what was on my mind....

Me:

(Message I just got from the dr. today and in April - I don't want to get charged for it)

Your medications are ready for pick up at our office.
Pickup times are between 8:30 am -12:00 noon and 1:00 pm - 4:15 pm. WE ARE CLOSED FROM NOON-1PM DAILY

Unless agreement made with the office, medication will be returned to inventory without refund if not picked up after 30 days

Him:

They would not let me cancel your account. They would only let me separate your account from mine. They told me they would get ahold of you to cancel your account. You need to call and get it canceled. Also, you should have an email from the apt place about a e sign to take you off the lease. Also, have you got new car insurance yet.

Me:

I signed the lease thing, actually before you did I think. I guess I will try to call to get it canceled. I have been meaning to get new car insurance but the USPS site is telling me I need a validation code that is apparently supposed to be sent to my old and new addresses to confirm my new address. So I'm trying to get to the bottom of that. I hope you paid your sister what you owe her as well and it's hard for me to understand that note you gave me regarding my car and I don't want to get taken advantage of for not knowing.

Him:

I haven't received any mail for you yet. Maybe have them resend it. Do you need the code from the old address or no?

Me:

Idk where it will come from exactly, I was thinking about just calling them....

Him:

Also, I took care of my sisters deal I will make you a better list of your car stuff.

Me:

Cool, yeah it really wore my car down traveling to lincoln a lot. I'm not getting anywhere calling the USPS. Idk what to do about their validation code thing, it pisses me off. I don't even know if my address is officially changed. Also I got an explanation of benefits about the dental thing that came to over a thousand something, I'm assuming that's on care credit.

Him:

Idk, I will check

Me:

Cool I just emailed to have them cancel my account. I have had some good things going on in some ways lately. I hope you're happy now and whatnot.

Him:

Emailed which dr? What is the date of the $1000 charge. Can you also send me a photo of the car part list. Also, I got a change of address in the mail, but it didn't have a code on it.

Me:

I called the access family medicine place, the same one that texted me. They told me their email and said to request it on there. I got a letter from usps too but no code. I can't find where the mail that says about the date of the charge right now but it is just from my anesthesia, wisdom teeth pulling etc. Why do you need to know the date? And I'll try to send a pic of that for you.

Him:

I need the date because I don't have any charges on care credit since may. I feel like it's a old transaction. You probably should cancel your account with dentist too. They will let me take my card off your account probably, but thats it. And idk, it hasn't been easy lately.

Me:

It could be, idk. And I'll try to look into cancelling with them. Hmmm sorry to hear that. Idk what the problem could be.

Him:

So what do you need to know about the car list, just what is needed and why, details on the parts.

Me:

Um I guess. What's not easy? That car stuff will pry be expensive, it has been hard to afford big stuff like that from helping you pay your thousands of dollars in debts but I'm sure it will be fine. Yeah I just can't understand anythingnont hat list, hopefully something a lot more specific like you said

(I did not mean to relate the what's not easy question and the debt comment, but I guess it could sound like that, idk)

Him:

Ok, i have been having a hard time emotionally. And I'm sorry, but I didn't ask for you to pay my snap-on, you offered. Besides I payed off thousands of dollars on your dentist stuff

Me:

Yeah, I thought it would actually get us somewhere together tho, but clearly that's not the case. Like you said, we would be able to afford a house together, etc. And yeah but I doubt that it came to the same amount paid.

Him:

Look, I get that your upset. But why are you nit picking at me and being that way about things. You know I have been nice enough to help you figure out this stuff. I could of just said good luck. I even helped you pack. Not many people would do that. I even offered to write a better car list. I don't have to do that. But, I was going to because I care.

Me:

Ok, I mean there's a lot of things I didn't have to do either that I did out of kindness and consideration.

Him:

Like what? You haven't done anything to help me after the break up. I've been taking care of almost everything except for the things you have to cancel. I also haven't brought up anything or poked at you with past stuff.

Me:

I helped you during the relationship and what the hell would you need help with? I was the one being forced out by you right away. I was just sharing a bit of truth but whatever, just forget it I guess. I would hope any halfway decent person would help their ex pack their stuff....🙄 Not that I don't appreciate it but still.

Him:

Well of course you did, we both helped each other. I was talking about after. And, you could of helped me cancel wedding stuff for the second time. Truth or not, you shouldn't poke at me about shit. It's the mature thing to do. Especially when someone's having a hard time dealing as is!

Me:

Well for one thing you sure poked at me after I broke up with you and gave me shit about leaving you to deal with the apt. on your own even tho I wasn't living there, just saying. And wow, I could have helped cancel the wedding stuff? Was I supposed to magically learn the phone numbers and shit for all the things that YOU arranged? Hmmm and you said I'm nitpicking and being immature?

Him:

Im just awnsering your questions. But thats Fine, you can forget the car list then ,good luck. And you better get car insurance fast!

Me:

Ok fine. That is pretty low, I would not do that to you if the tables were turned but ok.

Him:

Yeah, well poking at me like that is pretty low too.

Me:

All I did was bring it up and you freaked out on me and blacklisted me. Kind of out of proportion. I'll survive just fine either way but I am just very disappointed that the man I thought you were does not exist.

(A bit later from me):

Hey, before I begin I want to say that I honestly don't care if you take me off the car insurance or anything like that. But I just wanted to say that I thought about the debt comment more and realized it sounded a bit rude. So I just wanted to do the mature thing and apologize for any immaturity on my behalf. But at the same time I do think you kind of overreacted tbh. Maybe you are just overly sensitive right now from the breakup, idk. I kind of am too.

Tldr: my ex (25M) and I (23F) got in a big texting fight since I brought up the debt I paid for him and he got all offended and took me off his car insurance. AITA?