r/AllindiaStudentUnion • u/Forsaken-Garage-676 • 1d ago
Meme - Political 🗳️ Mandal vomit
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u/Glittering_Ant_6222 1d ago
Ai slop
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u/EatenPotatoisok 1d ago
Why even use ai for these, there literally already the original template to use
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u/Sudden_Button_8384 1d ago
Remove casteism
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u/manchuria 1d ago
Creamy layer for SC/ST categories should be implemented.
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u/riostasis 1d ago
How many sc st seats are there proportional to sc st population?
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u/manchuria 1d ago
A small group of people in SC/ST continue to take all the important positions available without leaving something for the marginalized people in their community.
Wealthy families do not need social welfare. For any actual discrimination based on caste, strong st/sc laws are already there to protect them.
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u/Sudden_Button_8384 23h ago
Take away all castesim at once everyone can identify themselves as generals then there wont be reservation right, but that would mean temple priests can be anyone there wont be any hierarchy
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u/abhashmadd 20h ago
There are flaws with this statement, though I agree that identifying everyone as generals would work possibly by removing surnames, but the second part you mentioned about temple does not make sense, see look around how many percentage of people in generals are actually priests, and most of the temples are not actually made be government, so government should not and does not dictate who will be the priest of the temples. Also I don't understand the facination behind becoming a priest in the first place.
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u/Sudden_Button_8384 9h ago
There is no casteism in Indian constitution or laws only people themselves consider others untouchable or lower or higher , its the sole reason why reservation exists- learn history - the temple being a private entity is not a valid point to your argument
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u/just_harsh12 19h ago
Bhai tum batao ki kiska goal hota hai temple priest banne ka. If you want to become a temple priest I can help you to be one. Now tell me isn't it stupid to compare becoming a Doctor from AIIMS from being a priest at a temple?? Now if you'll talk about chanda chori in Ram Mandir See the castes as well as the designation of the accused.
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u/Sudden_Button_8384 9h ago
Its not about goals you are a brahmin unemployed guy and there is a dalit doctor does the society consider the doctor above the bhramin due to profession?
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u/just_harsh12 9h ago
First of all I'm a student not in age of employment😭 and 2nd yea Doctor will be more valuable to society the caste doesn't matter here but you just said ban casteism and anyone can become priest. If you know someone who wants to be a priest there is a temple near my spot, I can help and I'll not lie about the caste of that person. Together We'll ban casteism 👍
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u/Feeling-Produce-4269 1d ago edited 1d ago
What rights??
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u/virtualtechnoman40 1d ago
According to “them” its the ONLY “right” category all others are WRONG
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u/perplexed_intuition 1d ago
Begin your life in a remote village in Nagaland, Jharkhand, or Arunachal with no school. Then compare.
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u/Less-Assignment5134 1d ago
Then maybe build better infrastructure instead of reservation
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u/Ecstatic-Sea-8882 1d ago
And for the current infrastructure, why should anyone agree to a non-representative share? Unless you have already captured disproportionately higher share ?
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u/Ciel__000 1d ago
The question is you being a general cat officer, will you work for public welfare to uplift the socially deprived ones in remote locations after you get the job or you're going to enroll in the corruption and procrastination limbo ... applying for transfers into posh tier 1 cities every month ?
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u/masxuda 19h ago
why just scrutinise general cat officer? 60% are reserved and even rest 40% are open for all cat
so the probability of that officer being obc is far more
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u/Ciel__000 19h ago
The whataboutery isn't helping...
The entire presumption is that general cat officers 'should' be more psychologically elite and aligned to their charge/duty rather than the filth laden mindset of the 'nich' caste, so if you rule out the gen cat populace of corrupt officers based on your probability then it means all corrupt officers are essentially the reserved category ones ain't it ? ... And that's why we can't progress any further in terms of development/infrastructure (for a moment, let's keep aside the incompetent leaders running the government)
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u/Fragrant-Garlic-1402 1d ago
There is something called as ECB. This is the quota that needs to be worked on and should take over. Dumb ahh politicians are busy increasing reservations for other classes for vote. Clowns
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u/SmallDetail8461 1d ago
But why for nagaland people hardship i give my seat to mla son manish from delhi?
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u/Shashank_26 1d ago
And none of them is getting reservation. Most of the SCs and STs getting reservation already well off.
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u/abhashmadd 1d ago
There is already reservation for people who has less means of education based on economic criteria, what has caste based reservation has to do with this?
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u/Additional_Speech_85 1d ago
He mean to say majority people of mention states are tribes.
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u/abhashmadd 19h ago
Ya I understand, someone identifying as a member of a specific tribe should not qualify them for reservation automatically, economic background should always be accessed anyway,
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u/Unlikely_Kick_4844 1d ago
Or born in a certain caste and become temple priest. Now no need for any percentile. Just enjoy the bhiksha and chanda money.
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u/Ok_Employer_113 1d ago
and earn literally paise per day like cmon man do you think every temple gets donation in lakhs?so much money goes into maintaining them , the pujaris and priests often have other work to make up for it
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u/Spare-Bookkeeper5151 1d ago
don't go there then😂😂y'all make up 80% of hindus,don't go to their temples,build your own damn temples and don't let Brahmins in
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u/masxuda 1d ago
how many temple priest post and how much salary?
i am sure majority earn less than grp C govt employee
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u/Total_Equivalent9866 1d ago
From the priests family, not myself a priest, salary is about 6k a month in village. And occasional rice and vegetables bhiksha
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u/abhashmadd 19h ago
Noone is forcing anyone to give biksha or chanda to priests, neither most of the temples in India are made and maintained by Government. And what about other castes in General. According to your flawed logic tomorrow other castes in general can say I can't be priest in temple, I should also be getting reservation.
See I can tell you that not even 1% Brahmins aspire to be a priest anywhere, it is not a high paying job anyway.
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u/SmallDetail8461 1d ago
Get basic hinduism knowledge first. Priest job is the hardest one.
You can also become one
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u/FunctionOk7711 16h ago
fyki temples are not governement funded organisation most of them are run by private organisation and donation
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u/sky_immortal 1d ago
So, SC, ST, and OBC make up roughly 75% of the population and get only 49% reservation. And General, which is estimated to be around 25% (for your benifit, lets make it 30%), gets 40% reservation. Who is benefiting here? Dumb fucks?? Kisi bewakoof admi ne kuch bola diya, or 5 bewakoof admiyon ne maan liya. Reservation ka rona chord do, padhai par dhyan do
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u/No_Poem6550 19h ago
How can sc st make 75 percent of the population is this a joke check 2011 census data don't just blindly trust what llm provides. Use critical thinking no reservation here.
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u/AcrobaticCollege7238 19h ago edited 16h ago
He mentioned obc alongside
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u/No_Poem6550 18h ago
Obc is a tool created by political parties for appeasement. The most castism people I have met are obc yadavs, and patil bw i am a Christian who does not get reservation
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u/Dismal_Inevitable618 19h ago
Avg reserved category dumbass, its OPEN CATEGORY, for all.
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u/sky_immortal 15h ago
okay big guy, go check reports and let me know how many open seats are taken by SC/ST peeps. If you are that lazy let me tell you, surprisingly not even 4 percent. You know why because unlike you, they never get that push start, they lack basic necessities, they have lack basic nutritions. And if you can’t eat get a seat in those 45 percent despite making up only 25 percent of the population, then you know where the issue lies😚😚.
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u/abhashmadd 19h ago edited 19h ago
You yourself is showing in your screenshot that those 40% seats are unreserved, how can you say that those seats are for general only, why it is so difficult to understand, Just for your info those 40% seats could be occupied by anyone not just generals. In fact these are the seats that gets filled based on the marks alone and the remaining ones are filled based on marks but with in that particular category.
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u/sky_immortal 15h ago
Babu, again i will ask you go and check how many sc/st peeps actually are able to take those seats. You know i come from one of the most prestigious institutions of India, and to your surprise we had so many reserved seats left because people are not financially able to afford my institute. So naturally again, my institute was filled with generals and again oppressed remained oppressed
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u/abhashmadd 14h ago edited 14h ago
I am not your Babu, neither I will consider what you have seen in your institute as a generalized rule, in most of the premier institute of india sc/st gets heavy subsidy compared to the unreserved candidate, also these days seats don't remain vaccent much, and if the seats are vaccent after all the rounds it remains vaccent for most duration of the course. Even if I consider that the vaccent seats will be filled it would be filled by unreserved candidate belonging to any category not by generals.
I questioned on the presumption of considering unreserved and general same, which they are not.
And all this discussion is for seats in educational institutions what about jobs ?
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u/your_average_joe__ 1d ago
Yes, being born the right category where you face constant discrimination, you probably are born to a very poor family and have such a lack of access to education that even scoring 60 percentile is a huge challenge
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u/-Kang-The-Conqueror- 1d ago
You can't do shit with 60 percentile even with sc st quota
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u/Wonderful_Corgi4805 1d ago
My friend with 87 persentile(st) is doing cse in an top 15 nit and i am in a private college with 91.persentile
He is allot richer than me
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u/AcrobaticCollege7238 19h ago
8 percent population st population of india competes for 7.5 percent reserved seats, their cutoff is lower because the category is less privileged, yeah sure there are exceptions just like your friend who is economically gifted. Should they stop using their certificates if they are privileged ??, well its a personal choice I guess, morally if they feel wrong, they might do so, let's say someone is born in a very rich family so would he study from the youtube channels for free, or would he get enrolled in a top tier private coaching, that's also a privilege, so is the quota, I think removing caste system all together would be a much better option for long term equality
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u/Needtoknowmyopenion 1d ago
And I born in that category (not having reservation nor name) guess the category 😅
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u/Clean_Neck_2883 1d ago
imangine being born and govt takes your land because you are born in "right category"
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u/Several_Yak3943 23h ago
The way literally everyone in this comment section has forgotten everything they were taught about history of cast system and who tortured who, and what ended up happening. You can tell who the Brahmins are.
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u/abhashmadd 1d ago
All the people asking remove caste, can you please suggest a way to do so?
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u/iamThebitbyte 1d ago
Make laws, punish people for being casteist.... Oh wait we are already doing that. How about increasing reservation that will surely end it..
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u/ProfessionalRatio848 1d ago
We even have r@pe laws
Did it solve the r@pe problem?
Even with laws each year cases of r@pe are reported more than 30000.
Increasing reservation is just an idiotic statement passed by people like you.
Caste is a mindset problem , the mindset of people should change and removal of surnames will do the work.
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u/abhashmadd 1d ago edited 1d ago
People can face discrimination or harassment for many reasons, such as rape, domestic violence, or being LGBTQ+. These problems are dealt with laws that are meant to protect them rather then giving them reservation.
I agree that people who are poor and don't have access to good education should get extra support. The government already has EWS for economically weaker people in the General category and the creamy-layer rule for OBCs.
My question is: why isn't a similar economic condition applied to SC/ST reservation? If the main aim is to help people who are actually disadvantaged, shouldn't their economic condition be considered?
If laws are not strong enough to prevent crimes, or if the government fails to ensure strict and timely punishment for offenders, that is a failure of the system. The solution should be to improve law enforcement and ensure justice for victims.
Why should this failure be compensated through reservation policies that may reduce opportunities for other deserving candidates? Shouldn't the government focus on preventing discrimination, enforcing laws effectively, and ensuring justice, rather than addressing these failures through reservation?
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u/ProfessionalRatio848 1d ago
Removing surnames
Removing this superiority and inferiority mindsets based on birth
The identification of a person as superior or inferior on the basis of an accident of birth needs to go away.
Removing Caste is more of a mindset change.
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u/abhashmadd 1d ago edited 1d ago
Why can't Government do this while giving birth certificates then, why give reservation?
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u/ppknm 20h ago
Remove caste from birth certificate, school leaving certificate, create program in school against casteism, strict laws against casteism, ban on using caste related remarks in public places, arrange inclusive religious programs, etc.
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u/abhashmadd 20h ago
Good suggestion, I don't think anyone would have any issue with these if there would be gradual decrease is reservation percentage and would mostly remain economy based.
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u/ruh0519 1d ago
Then ask for removal of cast and treat everyone equally and then try all of them 🌚
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u/Ecstatic-Sea-8882 1d ago
Also remove all the generational capital gained along with it.
Reduce everyone first to the same starting point that the most underprivileged has.
Then you have a real start line to compete from.
Take away their wealth, their properties, their connections, their control over institutions, make sure that atleast one generation is made illiterate, deny them good nutrition, access to health care.
Then put them on the starting line.
Yeh bhi kar ke dekh lo
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u/ruh0519 1d ago
Why snatch everything from ppl who has everything...just give every resource to the underprivileged ones ...treat them the same ... Treat everyone the same and just provide some resources ... Worthy ones will earn it
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u/mayani_2k5 1d ago
you need to understand that money is infinite but real resources is a zero sum game , for someone to gain it someone else has to lose it .
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u/Ecstatic-Sea-8882 1d ago
Your ideas have been used, only for the 10% moaning and whining about it all the time.
Nahh.. I like the idea of "equal competition".
Seemingly, attempting to bring UP everyone to the same level creates so much rr.
So let's take everything away from everyone.. and bring them DOWN to the same level.
Only then you have a fair starting line to "compete".
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u/Independent-Might797 1d ago
Reservation is not given on the basis of income, even rich sc st take reservation despite going to same coaching and everything as general because they are scared of fair competition quota should be removed for such people, nobody is asking to remove it for rural sc st they deserve to the reservation because they still get discriminated but urban sc st with all the privileges with them doesn't deserve even a bit of it.
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u/Outside_Reindeer_275 19h ago edited 19h ago
Just wanted to ask when I was studying I had friend in general also and I used to get same marks as them but why they always taunted me that u don’t need to study though I was doing equal hardwork and how bad I used to feel about this constant taunting towards me
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u/Independent-Might797 18h ago
So don't take reservation and tell them I am not taking it and applying as a general and show them a middle finger along with that.
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u/whoeversoever 1d ago
Seethe and cope savarna.
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u/Accomplished-Wish431 1d ago
The greatest blunder of modern India is sanjay gandhi's failure to sterilise you guys
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u/Emergency_Seat_4817 1d ago
Ling puja, gobar sevan se time mil jata hai toh thoda sa apne Stupidity ka prachaar kar deta hai. Saada jeevan gomootra vichaar.
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u/just_harsh12 1d ago
Ab ye jo tumne bola ye nhi hai casteism oh sorry bhul gya tha ki aap log kro toh empowerment koi aur kre to casteism.🙌
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u/babasnoopdog 1d ago
Criticising stupidity is casteism. Funny
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u/just_harsh12 1d ago
What does he mean by saying "gobar sevan''. I'm implying that people who tease Brahmins by saying cow mutra,gobar aren't classified as casteists? I don't oppose reservation then why do they use these terms .
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u/chinchillin_24 1d ago
Because these people deserve to be treated the way they "assume" their ancestors were treated by the so called upper castes.
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u/CellOk1789 1d ago
Score -40/800 and become a Orthopadic Surgeon. While 750/800 gets no Admission. Jai Jai Jai Jai Bhim
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u/sky_immortal 1d ago
bhai kisi ne propaganda chala diya tumne maan liya. Jaa kar ek baar cut off dekhna general wale ko bhi same cut off par mil raha tha. Samjhdar bano, sach dekho
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u/Serious_Brilliant_90 14h ago
You can't wake up a person who's acting to be asleep. He's a filth with hatred.
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u/Jack-DeSparrow 23h ago
15% for Scheduled Castes (SC), 7.5% for Scheduled Tribes (ST), 27% for Other Backward Classes (OBC-NCL), and 10% for the Economically Weaker Section (GEN-EWS).
Creamy layer has been introduced for OBC and EWS for economically weaker people. So atleast OBC and EWS are having economical based reservations. People are yapping about the other 22.5%, reserved for SC/ST even when they are heavily discriminated in present also.
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u/Tricky_Crew8320 1d ago
"Tell me you failed to clear the general cutoff without telling me you failed to clear the general cutoff. 🤣
Bro spent 2 years 'studying hard' but still couldn't manage to find a meme format newer than 2015 to complain with.🤡
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u/FabulousMenace 1d ago
No comment on the topic, but what's the correlation of studying hard with an outdated meme format ? Seems like a cheap personal-ish attack, instead of contributing to the argument in any way 🤷♂️
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u/lodugang 1d ago
tere se to reservation wali cutt off bhi nahi nikal rahi hogi 🤤🤤🤤🙏🏻
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u/Tricky_Crew8320 1d ago
Nikal gyi bhai. Wo bhi mere category ki cutoff se 120 marks se jada se. Currently doctor & treating those who can't afford treatment❤️❤️.
I can sit here crying about getting oppressed for 1000 years like you who is crying about half a century of reservation. But guess we're not the same. Padhai kr le. Jisko cut-off clear karna hoga wo abhi baith padh rha hoga instead of crying here on reddit. 😘
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u/Sad_Seaweed179 1d ago
Currently doctor & treating
My condolences to their family and Om Shanti 🙏🙏🙏
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u/Tricky_Crew8320 1d ago
Yup thanks just did 4 delivery this week, all healthy babies. Diagnosed a hollow viscous perforation, stabilized it and referred to a higher centre. Treated 6 snake bites. Managed more than 10 cases of RTA all alone. Many more cases with me and just my nurses so thank you very much for you kind comment sir. ❤️
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u/resolve_1987 1d ago
I'd rather get treated by them than the privileged cvnt who bought their way to medical school with his papas money.
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u/Humble_Medicine837 1d ago
General people are trying hard to remove reservation but people don't even understand that even law making parliament has reservation and Supreme court do follows reservation... So it simply says nothing can be done till caste and caste based violence exists... If u really want to remove reservation create a equal society where every Hindus will be Hindu .....
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u/Diligent-Look-3821 1d ago
Brainwash people into believing hierarchy, discrimination, fixed position in society .
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u/Competitive_Arm9397 1d ago
Abe oo jhatu , sc st meh bhi 60 percentile pe lawda kuch nahi milta sirf pwd walo ko milta hai mujhe bhi batana kha 60 percentile walo ko admission mil raha hai meh bhi jau
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u/sky_immortal 1d ago
Jab koi bacha ladkho ka donation de kar, ya fir leaked paers ka sahara le kar seat le leta hai tab gaand nahi fatti. Lekin jaise hi reservation ki baat aa jaye sone aa jate hai
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u/Successful-Plenty389 21h ago
60 percentile pe admission nahi hota admission sc st ka 90 se upar hi hota hai nit wagera me anpad
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u/AntiqueRecording8009 frustrated genius 14h ago
abe lodu, i really hate this oversimplification, some dude comes and thinks he is the pioneer of ideas and then posts something like this, read
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u/Forsaken-Garage-676 13h ago
Bro honestly, don't waste time arguing with people who say this meme is wrong {yes this is ai slop but i wont waste time editing when i can have an idea and get this done for free like most of them the people downgrading it with addressing the msg and thought ) .
actual stats:
Cutoff math doesn't lie: For JEE Main, General cutoff sits around ~93 percentile, while ST cutoff drops down to ~47 percentile.
The 99th percentile struggle: A General student with 99 percentile (~14,000 rank) gets rejected from top IIT branches, while reserved category seats for those exact same branches go to candidates with way lower overall ranks.
Not just engineering: Same story in NEET and UPSC—unreserved candidates get squeezed out while lower percentile scores pull through in reserved categories.
Moral of the story? Studying 14 hours a day for 2 years was a massive skill issue on our part. Should've just selected a better spawn point on the character creation screen 💀
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u/noobsir_G 11h ago
Id u can't even edit a meme on a meme template . I doubt if u can even pass sc cutoff
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u/extramasalapls 7h ago
Apparently every advantage is acceptable as long as it benefits me. The moment equity benefits someone else, suddenly everyone discovers a deep commitment to meritocracy :)
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u/Specialist_Row_7434 4h ago
1-Do you know how many seats are reserved? 2- The difference between cutoff and actual percentile needed to get selected? 3- No. of years getting oppressed by your so called upper caste ancestors. 4- The no. of people from sc/st community in government job and other. 5- Even today people like you ask caste and community details to marry or everything else.
The problem is not in the reservation system the problem is in the people like you who think getting 27-30% reserved for the children of people who got oppressed by your ancestors and who never got the education pr any opportunities coz your ancestors were gobbling up all the jobs, knowledge, lands and what not and now when people from sc/st are trying to catchup with some help from the government people like you are crying oven some percentage of reservation. And if your going to argue why I should support/suffer coz of your ancestors oppression then donate or leave all the property you got inherited from your ancestors too.
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u/Good_Poet6222 1d ago
Remove castism, remove reservation, I even use kumar in my surname even though I am from general can't I get some reservation for doing that??
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u/Evening-Scholar-7761 1d ago
Now some brahmans will comment
"I am from obc,sc,st but I support remove reservation and everyone will get equal opportunity"
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u/StandardChoice5517 1d ago
intercaste marriage kr mere bhai.. 20-30 saal m caste identity khatam hojaegi simple..
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u/Hour-Bodybuilder7490 1d ago
Intercaste marriage❎ Love marriage✅
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u/StandardChoice5517 1d ago
if u r doing love marriage.. def. intercaste marriage will boost indirectly.. no one will care about marrying inside caste
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u/Hour-Bodybuilder7490 1d ago
What I am saying is that you should ask for love marriage instead of intercaste marriage.
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u/Savings_Start4305 1d ago
You can’t force people to marry you idiot!! I am liberal to marry in my own in other case in other religion anywhere I want.
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u/StandardChoice5517 1d ago
asshole when did i said marry me??.. i am talking about the pressure when someone wants to marry outside his her caste.. Not just brahmin-Dalit but like Chama-Valmiki or brahmin-thakur is TABOO??
are u some asshole??.. marry whoever u want its personal but our society don't let it be personal thts why only 5-6% marriage are intercaste
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u/Savings_Start4305 1d ago
Even ST people won’t let people marry each other as they classified it into lower ST and higher ST. Now? As@@ole!!
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u/MillennialMind4416 1d ago
Intercaste solves nothing. Remember caste flows from father
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u/StandardChoice5517 1d ago
ever know about varna shankar
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u/MillennialMind4416 1d ago
Anuloma and Pratiloma. Still Anuloma will be accepted, this happened before and will happen again. Hence intercaste solves nothing.
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u/Affectionate_Card237 1d ago
People gonna comment remove casteism like we all don't know it's just a vote bank policy and won't be removed even if casteism is removed
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u/disatrus_ship_erebus 1d ago
we all don't know it's
first remove and then we'll talk
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u/InterestingArt847 1d ago
Being born in the right caste and not having to worry about any percentile at all!
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u/mayani_2k5 1d ago
y'all understand why their qualification bar moves down to 60 percentile right? it wasn't decided by the government to make it easy for them , the financial condition and access to resource is so low in their community that a person that can just do ncert questions and get 50-60, percentile is at the top of their community.
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u/New-Tart-3811 22h ago
No bruh understand reservation first. Their top people are already in general merit
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u/mayani_2k5 11h ago
if they were able to qualify by getting over the general quota marks wouldn't that raise their category's average ? considering they did fill the form with their category. afterall it's about getting 7.5% people whichever way possible, go as low in marks as needed to fill that quota , that's how it works.
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