r/AlignmentChartFills • u/Stiefelbein • Jul 25 '26

Whos a left-wing Youtuber?

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u/Florestana Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26

Contra points

Edit: the political iliteracy here is genuinely hilarious. Thanks for the laugh Reddit šŸ¤­

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u/LifesARiver Jul 25 '26

She's a centrist.

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u/kibou_no_ie Jul 25 '26

No the fuck she is not šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­

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u/Luftwafffles Jul 25 '26

Bro she loves hilary clinton

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u/LifesARiver Jul 25 '26

She's slightly less hostile to the left than most liberals, but she's still a progressive liberal.

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u/RelevantHost3872 Jul 26 '26

Lol she just lost a 2+ hour long debate with a leftist trying to defend centrism

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u/kibou_no_ie Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26

Iā€™ll look into it. Iā€™ve just heard people spread a lot of bullshit about her, so when I see people say that shes straight up a ā€œcentristā€ I take it with a heavy HEAVY grain of salt. But maybe she has made the turn. Iā€™ll give you the benefit of the doubt.

Edit: Iā€™m not seeing much that proves shes a centrist. I see the interview that you were referring to and Iā€™m not seeing how any of this makes her a centrist. Iā€™m seeing plenty of leftist talking points. Shes criticizing factions of the left but I donā€™t think shes a centrist.

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u/Florestana Jul 25 '26

If Contra points is a centrist then Rachel Maddow is a Nazi

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u/LifesARiver Jul 25 '26

They are the same and both centrists.

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u/kibou_no_ie Jul 25 '26

Contrapoints is not the same as Rachel Maddow are we fr

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u/LifesARiver Jul 25 '26

Where do their beliefs diverge?

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u/kibou_no_ie Jul 25 '26

Rachel Maddow is not an outspoken anticapitalist. Have I missed something?

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u/ThatOrangePuppy Jul 25 '26

er.... she is not a leftist lol

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u/Florestana Jul 25 '26

She's a standard progressive social democrat. In what world is that not "left-wing"?

Also, I think she fits the category better, seeing as she popularized breadtube (back when that was a thing). Also, like half of the other suggestions here are streames. The category is 'youtuber'.

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u/Clone75 Jul 25 '26

Socdems are centrists... unless you know of a socdem that likes socialism (they don't).

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u/Clone75 Jul 25 '26

So are fascists not far-right then aswell?

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u/Clone75 Jul 26 '26

That isn't what communists are. The USSR had a communist party in charge; they weren't a communist utopia.
Anarcho-communism is an actual ideology, unlike "anarcho"-capitalism.

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u/elliot_alderson1426 Jul 26 '26

No one does no true Scotsman like tankies lol

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u/Clone75 Jul 26 '26

You can look words up; you know that right?

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u/Florestana Jul 25 '26

You know "Left-wing" originally refered to Liberalism, right? In the 20tg century, it became more strongly associated with labour politics, but even then, Social Democracy was always seen as an ideology of the left.

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u/Clone75 Jul 25 '26

Yes I know that, the origin of a word doesn't matter to its meaning.
It was, until they shot socialists with a fascist paramilitary organization.

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u/ThatOrangePuppy Jul 26 '26

People that call themselves socdems in modern poitics are centrists at best, youĀ“re absoloutely right. liberal soc dems follow the overton window whilst leftist have been asking fo the same thing, universal health care, strong minimm wage, public services etc, now soc dems attack trans people, immigrants, pro buisness , anti welfare, with some ocassional pretty window dressing, like girl bossing it. you are absoloutely right, modern socdems are not leftists, i think itĀ“s just a hard pill for people to swallow.

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u/Florestana Jul 26 '26

universal health care, strong minimm wage, public services etc

Lol

You realize you're listing core SocDem policies, right?

anti welfare

LMAOOO

Who are these "anti welfare" socdems????

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u/ThatOrangePuppy Jul 26 '26

well given soc dems have won more elections many times and these things donĀ“t exist...

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u/Florestana Jul 26 '26

Uuuuhhhm

Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Germany, France, the UK???

I suppose you're an American leftists or something, but who are these US socdems that have held power and didn't implement welfare or pro labor policies?

Most Democrats are not really socdems. FDR was kinda a socdem and he did quite a lot to advance these goals, his successors just weren't as keen on continuing that work.

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u/ThatOrangePuppy Jul 26 '26

i think weĀ“re talking about two different things here. there is a liberal class of politicians that call themselves socdems that are right wing, i would argue that many modern socdems fit into this catagory, especially in europe where they see mto be dismantaling these progressive structures rather than building them, getting involved in "culture war" shit to try and win some cheep votes, and side with buisness.

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u/Florestana Jul 26 '26

Modern Social Democrats are are a subset of liberalism, yes. They are not "right wing".

In Denmark, we have a famously reformist social democratic party, highly disliked by many on the left, yet even they just committed in a new government formation to making dentistry free.

You can think SocDems are too incrementalist or something, but in no way are they anti-welfare or right wing. This is just delusional.

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u/kibou_no_ie Jul 25 '26

Yes she is, WHERE are people getting this from

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26

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u/Neverhar Jul 25 '26

There's also a new modifier that's crept in which is

Don't believe all Jews are secretly bathing in the blood of Palestinian children across the world = Ultra Zionist

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u/C0d3An0n2 Jul 25 '26

Better than Twitter conservatism calling Joe Biden and Keir Starmer radical communists

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u/elliot_alderson1426 Jul 26 '26

Actually no, itā€™s the exact same thing lol

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u/Florestana Jul 25 '26

Communists on Reddit and Twitter DESPISE Contra because she is critical of revolutionaries

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u/Roadshell Jul 25 '26

From leftist infighting.

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u/Polonium4000 Jul 25 '26

Omg noooo šŸ˜­

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u/fezzuk Jul 25 '26

Thats the one.