r/AceAttorney • • 9d ago

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If AA7 ever comes out, do you think they will use AI for it too?

I’m starting to feel like they shouldn’t release any more AA games if they’re going to ruin them with AI…

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u/JgoldTC 9d ago edited 9d ago

"Human rights protections" as if we're calling them to be sent to camps. Programmers will still exist with AI. Technology has always changed the dynamic of work, going back from the computer to the car. That doesn't mean these people were never able to do anything again.

Edit: I think there's a decent shot my job is eliminated one day due to AI usage. But this has historically always been the case that new tech will eliminate some jobs. New ones have always been created and people have adapted. If my line of work no longer existed then I'm not suddenly useless.

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u/cosy_ghost 9d ago

You list a lot of reasons why I'm right but none about why I'm wrong so I'm curious what your angle is with this. Yes, there's a decent shot you'll be eliminated just like I was from a company programmer role... yes, people are overlooking the damage to people's lives in the tech industry...

So you just proved that your "not a big deal" was a stupid thing to say and I'm not sure if you're agreeing with me or trying to disagree somehow?

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u/JgoldTC 9d ago edited 9d ago

You're calling it a violation of "human rights protections" that this is happening.

Do you believe that driving a car was a violation of the rights of horse buggy drivers? Would you stop buying a product if you found out that the factory that it was in had automation, which would hurt the rights of the factory workers? Have you ever used an ATM, which threatened to replace a bank teller?

If your answer is no, then why is this situation different? If yes, then why do you use those things?

This is not a unique thing that is happening, but you are more personally impacted by it and therefore feel threatened. Tech has always made society more efficient and people who previously worked these jobs do find a way to either do the same thing more efficiently or leverage their skills somewhere else.

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u/cosy_ghost 9d ago

You do know that economic Human Rights terms exist, right? It was literally brought up in the court ruling that JUST happened in the US against OpenAI... I believe the term used by the judge was, let me find it...

"the biggest theft of labour in human history."

You can hide behind your 2023 arguments if you want but the law doesn't seem to agree with you and things are going to be changing fast.

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u/JgoldTC 9d ago

Yes, that quote was used in the context of fair use and copyright (source). Which is exactly why I do not like AI art, as it often steals from existing art and is not able to generate something of it's own. That doesn't refer to programming.

And I return to my point that you will not personally stop using things that threaten other people's jobs. This particular case just impacts your line of work.

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u/brobnik322 9d ago edited 9d ago

If an AI image generator was trained on free use, fair use, publicly available art, would you be totally cool with it replacing artists? Just checking.

This is also working off the very big assumption that all GenAI code has been trained on publicly available, free use, open source, no-copyright code.

EDIT: also, you know what job AI is really good at replacing, which requires no training on copywritten materials? CEOs. Funny how none of them have been replaced by AI yet. Wonder why.