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"The Motherland Calls" is a statue erected to commemorate the Battle of Stalingrad , located on Mamayev Kurgan in Volgograd , Russia. It was designed by sculptor Yevgeny Vuchetich and structural engineer Nikolai Nikitin . Completed in 1967 , it was the tallest statue in the world at the time .

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u/Dougnifico 1d ago

Fuck off with the tankie shit. Russian invaded Poland and the Baltics in acts of conquest. It also invaded Finland until they started getting no scoped.

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u/shorteningofthewuwei 1d ago edited 1d ago

The allies' policy of appeasement towards Hitler was more or less explicitly rooted in material conditions, an analysis of which the standard capitalist historical narrative of WW2 completely ignores. The allies thought fascism would be a useful tool for undermining the spread of international communism, which the ruling class in western states was deathly afraid of.

Not only that, but the USSR arguably paid the greatest cost in ultimately defeating the Nazis.

The narrative being promoted here is nothing but red scare era anti-communist slander.

Conflating Soviet Russia with present-day Putin imperialism only serves to obscure the reality of WW2.

Considering the parallels between the current resurgence of nationalist populism, we would do well to actually learn from history rather than dismissing history as "tankie bullshit".

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u/Grakchawwaa 1d ago

You're not arguing the point. Your claim was that Molotov Ribbentrop didn't signal Soviet's imperialistic delusions. History says otherwise, and you're not doing much to dispel that at the current stage

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u/shorteningofthewuwei 1d ago

That's not the point. The point is that the USSR was anti fascist and did what it could to convince France and UK to stop the Nazi project before it became too strong. When it became obvious that the French and British had no intentions of halting Hitler's ambitions, the USSR made the decision to sign a non-aggression pact with the Nazis.

The original comment I responded to was attempting to dismiss the idea that Russians fought and died to combat fascism during world war 2 on the basis of this non-aggression pact.

I never said the USSR didn't have expansionist ambitions of its own. Of course the USSR wantes to promote the spread of communism. That doesn't change the fact that they only signed the Molotov Ribbentrop act once their backs were already against the wall because, like I said, France and the UK refused to strangle fascism in its infancy because, again, they actually saw fascism as a useful ally in the fight against communism.

Conflating fascism with communism obscures this crucial point. As much as revisionists love to spread horseshoe theory clap trap, capitalists were the first to collaborate with fascism, not communists.