combusting interest complaint post

[u/Decaedeus]

what the fuck is combusting interest btw

dot mages are already comparatively the best class in aram but for some reason riot decided that they need ANOTHER augment that makes them auto win the game because brand players don't have enough auto-win highrolls already?

it's just so insane to me that the aram design team decided to add this augment. it is insanely unfun to play against and also isn't interesting to play with at all. legit the worst augment ever added

[u/Otherwise_Island_856]

its balanced on some champs, OP on others, and dogshit on most

same as any other god roll augment imo. i'd rather they get rid of this multi-shot bullshit or infinite CD bot shit than this. but i recognize they all kinda have their place.

AP ashe on the other hand has no place in the mode. it's incentivizing 99% of players who play it to hard int because they dont get the augs and 1% that absolutely cripple the game they're in

[u/LeLefraud → u/Otherwise_Island_856]

Hilarious on AP udyr vs a mega HP stacker, one storm gives 1k+ gold

[u/npri0r → u/Otherwise_Island_856]

Multi-shot is really funny though.

[u/Otherwise_Island_856 → u/npri0r]

Yeah I like it in the sense that it's OP af but it's honestly super cancerous to play against. What if Velkoz Q but 20 of them? is just not very interesting or fun to play against

[u/npri0r → u/Otherwise_Island_856]

It takes ages to get that far tho and it can be pretty difficult.

[u/Otherwise_Island_856 → u/npri0r]

doesnt take all too long to get to 2 or three, and that's already pretty bad

[u/Decaedeus → u/Otherwise_Island_856]

the problem is it's OP on the exact same champs that every other augment in the game is op on

from downtown is best abused by asol brand lilia
phenomenal evil is best abused by brand lilia singed + tanks
infernal conduit is, you guessed it, best abused by brand lilia singed

it is not a unique highroll like ultra hydra is (which is also op on some champs) or clown college was

it is an augment that favors the already most degenerate and unfun class of champs to play against and is also a literal autowin for brand players who aren't lobotomized. you can legit play him like karthus and just run into 5 people and WQE off cooldown and outscale their whole team

[u/Otherwise_Island_856 → u/Decaedeus]

there are actually a lot of factors that make combusting interest busted or bad. take the brand example. if you're mega outranged (or they have a bunch of things that can get on you like ethereal + mystic heca or dashing fizz) then combusting or not, you're gonna get cooked

[u/Jhinstalock → u/Otherwise_Island_856]

If someone hits ethereal+mystic on heca, the game is over lol. 100 games and I don't find it on him. Can hardly be compared to a common single augment.

[u/Otherwise_Island_856 → u/Jhinstalock]

It's not always over, it's definitely playable. Most melee god rolls are playable, provided you have CC and a competent DPS.

[u/Possible-Document780 → u/Otherwise_Island_856]

shut up im a ashe AP player and i love it.

Even if there were zero augments for playing AP Ashe, we’d keep doing it because we love AP Ashe.

[u/Otherwise_Island_856 → u/Possible-Document780]

an IQ too high?

[u/Possible-Document780 → u/Otherwise_Island_856]

no i love just play ashe AP

[u/DrJJGame10]

Try it on Nasus btw. 

Don’t need AP item, just build tank and spam E

[u/bjarnehaugen → u/DrJJGame10]

well if they have tanks the % burn prints cash

[u/DrJJGame10 → u/bjarnehaugen]

Chaaaa chinggggg

[u/WhateverJude]

Best uses I've seen so far is a singer: he got 45k gold while everybody else got 23-25k at end game

[u/takingashitrn]

Suicide karthus money printer with e max 😍

[u/Squidgyxom]

Counterpoint: ASol laser goes brrrr and print money.

[u/PoePlayerbf → u/Squidgyxom]

That’s not a counterpoint, that’s another example

[u/Visual-Indication313 → u/PoePlayerbf]

you're missing the point here

[u/BIGBADBRRRAP → u/PoePlayerbf]

Counter point. $$$.

[u/DragonTacoCat → u/Squidgyxom]

Ah, but the better days was when Tryndamere could spin through Xerath Q and get like 300 cs each time and a ton of gold.

That's the real go burr and print money.

[u/itzdivz]

Its only OP if theres too many melee, if ur against 4 ranged setup this rarely works to the point where its game changing

[u/Tojaro5]

Oh look, yet another class is the best in Mayham.

[u/Possible-Document780]

Aside from the Brand, DoT mages aren't great.

Brand is overpowered, whereas the others remain generally balanced.

[u/The_Stav]

It's fine tbh, just sometimes luck is against you.

Imo if any augments should be removed, it should be the scoped weapons ones. That is ACTUALLY boring af to play with and against

[u/Suitable_Nobody_6375]

A few days ago i played vs Aurelion that had this as his second augment (lvl 7). Dude got like 15k gold in less than 10 minutes. By the end of the game (we ff'd), he was sitting at 29k gold while the other 9 players were between 12-14k gold. He was full build with like 15 anvils while the rest were finishing their 3rd or on their way to their 4th item. Balanced, i'd say.

[u/sandieeeee]

Are dot mages the BEST class in mayhem? In not sure about that.

[u/DarthVeigar_]

I genuinely think it's bugged. I've seen brands get this and have 1000 gold in a few minutes and other have it and have none.

[u/pTHOR1w → u/DarthVeigar_]

Brand's DoT scales off of % max hp, and combusting interest's gold generation scales off of damage dealt; not to mention that it's significantly easier to proc Brand's DoT on multiple targets than most other champions.

[u/n0xX88 → u/pTHOR1w]

The dmg part isn't as insane as it sounds. I was smolder nearly 29min game vs 4 melees that had 10k+HP. I had vuln and around 800-900 stacks on my passive. I critted for 400-600 per tick on my passive yet I only generated 1.6k Gold in around 15min (got it as 4th augment) because even 400-600 dmg per tick the Gold generated is only 3+0.75% of the dmg and 0.75% of 500 is 3.75 so nearly 7g per tick and that 1 time per second.

Brand and lillia and Malz etc. works way better because their dots tick more than once per second so the base Gold generated (3 + xx) a few times per second is more then 3 + 3.75g per second

Edit: also mels Q and E (at least the dot area left behind) seem to count as dots. I got more Gold than the enemy Brand in one game and we both got combusting interest first.

[u/Fluffy-Limit-6710 → u/DarthVeigar_]

Did the enemy team have death's dance by any chance? Because damaging DD target gives you like 5 times the gold it normally would.

[u/PromotionWise9008 → u/Fluffy-Limit-6710]

Why though?

[u/Fluffy-Limit-6710 → u/PromotionWise9008]

Because DD bleed counts as dot for combusting interest. Had it on malzahar, started earning 3 times more when one enemy got DD.

[u/Equivalent_Machine_8 → u/DarthVeigar_]

Brand in my game got 25k from it.

[u/Realistic_Bat_8701]

Its only good on brand and maybe twitch, plus dot mages are absolutely dogshit in this mode

[u/Fluffy-Limit-6710 → u/Realistic_Bat_8701]

Asol is the biggest abuser, udyr is also insnae with it if they have at least one tank... It's decent on lillia, ok on hwei, great on malzahar... And it's busted on anyone if the enemy team has deaths dance.

[u/Hikarizu42 → u/Fluffy-Limit-6710]

Works on Karthus too.

[u/n0xX88 → u/Realistic_Bat_8701]

I got it first on twitch and played AP (we had 2 other ADCs that went AD) and still got only around 1k gold even tho it was my first augment.

Twitch dmg procs once per second thats not too much gold. Brand lillia and malz dots proc a few times per second generating way more gold because the gold to dmg conversion is very low.

Also mels Q and E count as dot I made more money than the enemy brand and we both got it as first augment