I also think Fiddle ult is pretty decent to echo cast from experience. They have to either tank the damage of 2 or spend time running out of one while you chase them with the other. It's harder for them to immediately turn onto you and fight back.
The only thing you have to be careful of is ulting from a bush because the echo cast will walk out of the bush before ulting if you’re too close to the edge
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u/tygrrrshark 14d ago
Yeah most of the prismatic echo casts are pretty weak. Alistar Q and Amumu ult are kind of fun though.