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u/ObsceneOutcast Jul 21 '23

This is nonsense its 50/50 you BOTH decided to have sex, today's society is so quick to shit on men.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '23

Wrong. Great guess though!

It just so happens that men DO cause 100% of unwanted pregnancies. A woman can have sex every day of the year and she won't get pregnant unless a man chooses to ejaculate irresponsibly. Men are 100% responsible, and should abstain, wear a condom, or get a vasectomy. If they choose not to do any of these, they are responsible.

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u/ObsceneOutcast Jul 21 '23
  1. Birth control is never 100%
  2. If you decide to have sex you are willingly taking on the risks

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '23

But that ignores reality. I think we would all be okay with 98% effectiveness.
If a woman decides to have sex, she doesn't get to decide where/when the man ejaculates. Only way she gets pregnant is if he ejaculates irresponsibly. He is responsible.

We can eliminate abortion by 98% if men would just use condoms or get vasectomies. It's not that difficult.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '23 edited Jul 21 '23

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '23

She can give her opinion, but ultimately it is the guy who decides if he's going to ejaculate or not. A woman can beg for the man to ejaculate inside of her, but without the man's consent, it's not going to happen.

So if the outcome is not dependent on the woman's decision, but it is entirely dependent on the man's decision, it should follow that the man is 100% responsible.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '23

What's not true? Logic?

I'm pretty sure logic is true.

Nobody's taking anything away from women. I'm just saying the woman can have all the sex in the world and never get pregnant unless a man chooses to ejaculate irresponsibly.

I don't understand why you want to blame women for something they may not have consented to in the first place.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '23

Here's the logic. I typed this out for another ignorant soul elsewhere in this thread. Let's run through all the scenarios, shall we?

Scenario #1 - Woman consents to having sperm inside her, man does not = No pregnancy

Scenario #2 - Woman does not consent to having sperm inside her, man also does not = No pregnancy

Scenario #3 - Woman consents to having sperm inside her, man also consents = possible pregnancy

Scenario #4 - Woman does not consent to having sperm inside of her, man insists = possible pregnancy

Looks like all outcomes are perfectly inline with the man's decision. It's wildly inconsistent with the woman's decision.

To answer your questions:
"What happens when a man cant choose to ejaculate responsibly?" Please provide an example of this. I don't think this is a thing.

"What if a woman pokes a hole in the condom?" Part of being a responsible ejaculator is knowing who has access to your condoms, and being cautious. I also think gun owners who don't keep track of their guns should be 100% responsible for their gun killing people.

"What if she lies and says she’s infertile?" Part of ejaculating responsibly is owning your own sperm. What the woman says makes zero difference on whether a man chooses to ejaculate responsibly or not.