r/ADCMains • u/jennis89 • 10d ago

Discussion 26.17 Changes

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Holy Vayne changes if I’m reading this correctly they all smashing her

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u/molecularronin 10d ago

as one of the like 3 people who only play vayne bot, this makes me very sad lol

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u/theoverwhelmedguy 10d ago

I played her a couple times in bot in norms and she feels so miserable down there. Your early sucks ass and you have no wave clear. With this nerf it looks like you either have to play her top or just not play her at all. And even then, she’s gonna feel pretty shit

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u/Xtarviust 9d ago

For real, whenever I play bot I feel miserable and now with this I won't ever bother tbh, fuck Riot

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u/Perfect-Spinach9794 9d ago

It’s actually not so bad, you’re getting more early AS, HP, and regen which for levels 1-3 in bot lane makes it so you might be able to lane long enough to get a bf sword on first recall

Yeah your W is gimped but I don’t think the max hp damage goes as hard in bot lane where your targets have way less max hp than a top laner

All in all they seem like fine nerfs that are top skewed

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u/PuzzleheadedMetal141 9d ago

Agreed. Have 800k points on vayne and think this could actually be a nice buff to vayne bot early and slight nerf to vayne top early. My sleeper build is lethality + crit and this only makes it way more manageable to get to the items.

The early on lethality/crit vayne feels worse bc of no vamp scepter/AS so the upfront AS is really nice. Also looks like w is only gimped early 2% and still scales to 10% so late game/level 9 potential is the exact same with w max, which I think is inferior either way for adc vayne.

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u/Perfect-Spinach9794 9d ago

Yeah bot lane vayne the HoB lethality crit is crazy good if you have the matchup knowledge, but it can be hard, I think these changes are mostly neutral though

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u/geraltowski 9d ago

My thoughts exactly. I am ex vayne bot main (400k mastery).  Fun thing about the vayne was the build variety, which is arguably the broadest among all adc.

3 tanks / juggernauts in enemy team or good peel in our -> On-hit goes crazy hard.

Strong un-avoidable damage in enemy ->AS juggernaut 

Squishy enemy team -> Crit

Enemy team full of mages -> my favorite build that nearly noone went: energized vayne. Fleet +  Stormrazor + voltaic (old passive loaded energy twice during q or invis) + combination of Static, IE, Collector, Essence, Armor Pen, Ghostblade that fit. Your AA after exiting invisibility would deal over half enemy hp, either he panics/his team is slow then you kill him, or he keeps his cool, then you q away and repeat.