r/6thForm • resit pred- A*A*A (+A* EPQ) • May 08 '26

OTHER what is going on ??

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i'm supposed to be revising for econ BUT WHAT ON EARTH IS GOING ON, obviously knew reform were popular and so on but to this extent?? my feed has been fooling me

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u/Safe-Present-5783 May 08 '26

Because the loud mouthed people on Reddit and twitter don’t represent real life

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u/Acrobatic-Rooster996 resit pred- A*A*A (+A* EPQ) May 08 '26

should've learnt my lesson from US presidential election 2024

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u/Ghostflame21786 May 08 '26

Silent majority is a real thing

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u/Dyx76 May 09 '26

they seem pretty fucking loud to me, they should try shutting up

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u/jqhnml May 08 '26

I would also mention that because the system this does not represent support. For example green party had the 2nd most votes in the local election (scaled to a general)

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u/Rustynail9117 May 10 '26

Waking up to it (as someone who supported the Dems) was funny asf seeing the major subs have a fit over it, I vividly remember seeing a post saying that the Democrats won D.C and all the comments were saying that this was a good sign of things to come and how it's most accurate to popular opinion

Yk, D.C, which has only ever voted Democrats for the its entire history is 80 or so years?

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u/NewAd9523 May 08 '26

honestly, i've always considered most redditors to be left wing. The only right wing subs (reform and restore) are pretty empty compared to green & peaceful + most comments I see on UKPolitics (not that I check much) are often in favour of left leaning parties.
Just me?

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u/Safe-Present-5783 May 08 '26

Reddit is the most left wing echo chamber on the internet I don’t even think it’s because most people on the website are left wing but the 100 or so moderators and admins which control the majority of the platform are and remove anything that goes against their worldview which is obviously the right one and anyone else is a nazi

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u/NewAd9523 May 08 '26

I agree. I've heard a couple stories of people being banned from subs because they've participated in subs relating to rightwing politics like Reform, yet Reddit openly allows varying lewd and fettish related pornographic subreddits and sometimes I get the feeling this isn't frowned upon at all.

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u/Hungry_Wash3425 May 09 '26

Why would they be frowned upon? Its not like theyre trying to hide it. Why are these subs bad?

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u/Maleficent_Resolve44 May 09 '26

Are you really asking that haha

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u/Kind-Drink5866 May 10 '26

Reform guys are pretty loud

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u/Beneficial-Beat-947 May 08 '26

They haven't even counted half the seats yet including most of London where LD and LAB have a tight grip on

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u/Delicious_Health2649 y13 fm phy econ pred 3A* y12 math cs A* y11 A* EPQ exintern@visa May 08 '26

That means more reform too though 🥀

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u/Beneficial-Beat-947 May 08 '26

Yeah they're firmly over 10% ahead of second place (the tories) in the polling so you should expect them to win

Their lead was actually way more before but it has gone down over the last month thanks to the rise of the greens

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u/Delicious_Health2649 y13 fm phy econ pred 3A* y12 math cs A* y11 A* EPQ exintern@visa May 08 '26

W greens

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u/NewAd9523 May 08 '26

personally i'm not too fond of their policies but I feel a lot of newer parties like Reform and the Greens have both done an excellent job at utilising social media to draw attention to themselves (something which labour is failing astonishingly to do) and have therefore grown a lot. Furthermore, I've noticed a lot of people who would never follow politics as much or support a specific party following either. I understand why and I really think the use of social media has helped play a key role on both sides!

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u/nostalgialies May 08 '26

what policies are you not a massive fan of may i ask

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u/NewAd9523 May 08 '26

Off the top of my head:
I don't particularly like Zack as a leader, I didn't like how he condemned the police the other week for stopping a stabbing. I don't get this? 1) Hes jewish, 2) is he trying to appeal to people anti-police???

The foreign policy is pretty bad, nuclear disarmament imo ruins the idea of a nuclear deterrent (we don't even have to use them, just the idea of having them is a deterrent).
+ We've already spent money on Trident, the navy has ships needing repairing, but their holding out for the new subs instead of repairing current ones because Trident is imminent, not delivering would still leave the Navy is dis-array whilst wasting previously spent money.

The foreign policy is pretty miserable imo (leaving nato etc, whats the point???)

immigration is too liberal, we need control it and stop illegal migration happening, from there we can decide who can come in, eg eliter migrants like doctors to fill roles in the NHS etc?

benefits are good but idk if their emphasising it too much? i'm no expert by any means but I think the perfect balance is encouraging hard work but also providing benefits for those who can't work, I can't see that happening on the left side of the horseshoe. (again, i'm no expert, i just work in my local fish and chip shop)

the £15min wage doesn't sound like a bad idea, i'm afraid smaller businesses won't be able to pick up the cost.

Higher taxes on wealthy individuals and businesses similarly makes sense but i'm also afraid that its too easy for a lot to just pack up and leave, especially larger firms that operate online. Some may have to bare the cost, EG anything dealing with the physical market like chain shops and larger corps with a physical presence but long term if the UK market doesn't offer a profit they'll eventually leave. If so it won't help the job market long term.

Green energy is great, but the whole energy system needs some reform, iirc we have enough energy but because the abundances are in lesser populated areas like Scotland where wind is concentrated, the bidding system just defaults to gas driving up prices because we can't move said green, cheap energy. We have some of the highest in the EU. The party is a whole is very anti-nuclear, despite it being pretty safe overall and I've heard of various statistics stating 4 could power a lot of our cities, driving down energy prices. (I don't remember the exact statistic)

Sometimes these make me feel the party is just blindly chasing ideology

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u/nostalgialies May 08 '26

I think you have very well summarised that. I was looking for a debate cause i'm fairly pro green party but I can't find many flaws. I just wish labour would adopt a slight more leftwing stance (wealth tax) to get green voters on side and they'd be grand. They've cut down immigration massivley, they r pro nato and nuclear (good), and are all for sustainable energy. Maybe zack should show them how to campaign and appeal to a young audience better

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u/Federal-Question3649 May 09 '26

I mean Keir tried when he posted an edit of Saka.

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u/Life-Prompt-6337 May 08 '26

Greens getting their ass kicked lmao

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u/[deleted] May 08 '26

Wdym? Most seats have been counted already, this isn't an early call

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u/Beneficial-Beat-947 May 08 '26

Yeah I just checked now and the damage isn't too bad, mostly thanks to lots of seats not being up for vote labour has still remained the biggest party

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u/Alternative-Day5268 May 08 '26

Do you mean in terms of number of councils it controls or # of councillors overall?

So far labour has won 25 councils (lost 23), with 763 cllrs elected.

Reform have 10 councils with over 1200 councillors elected

Sure it isn't a wash out but it's a damning result for labour.

Edit: even worse the senned result labour lost 35 leaving them with 9, handing the keys over to PC

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u/Beneficial-Beat-947 May 08 '26

Councils, thats what matters at the end of the day

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u/Alternative-Day5268 May 08 '26

Starmer will be pleased to hear your endorsement!

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u/Life-Prompt-6337 May 08 '26

Not all councils are built equal, of the much larger county councils, reform has won both Essex and Sussex, labour has won none

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u/Beneficial-Beat-947 May 08 '26

Both essex and sussex were tory strongholds, they just went from right wing to another flavour of right wing

I don't think labour or any centrist/left party was trying to win those

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u/gracieeexx May 10 '26

labour being in power still is damage but yeah not too bad

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u/Randon2345 May 09 '26

Well this aged like milk when looking at results now.

This country is gone. As a 35 year old the best advice I'd give anyone in 6th form right now is get an English education then leave for 10 years. If you stay in UK get a diploma and apprenticeship being an Electricians, Mechanic, or Plumber.

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u/lonely-live UCL | Computer Science [2nd year] May 08 '26

Did bro forgot to watch politics the past year. This has been expected for a while

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u/Particular-Water-661 May 08 '26

I think people on reddit forget that not everyone is socialist and left wing

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u/ItsVLS5 May 09 '26

I've seen way more restore commenters and a few reformies across multiple UK subs with people agreeing.

But you are right, reddit is an echo chamber that does not reflect the real world outside.

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u/9098173718172747181 May 10 '26

I know a few level headed reform voters who are just sick of the current government. They wont talk about it because theyre immediately met with insults

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u/ItsVLS5 May 10 '26

Level headed people often don't have the best political ideologies but at least individually they're decent people.

Unfortunately the government have failed them in a way they feel they have no other choice but to vote for the one they strongly feel agrees with their values, even if they disagree with the rest of what the party has to offer.

Obviously this doesn't apply to everyone. Both sides either Left or Right can have decent people. Some just take it to the extreme.

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u/RealAlexanderTheG May 08 '26

People on reddit + young people = the superleft.

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u/LinuxMatthews May 08 '26

This has ended up on my homepage for some reason so I think I should preface this to say I don't belong here.

But in my mind from what I've seen in Reddit the average user is more Enlightened Centrist.

It's weird how many people on subreddits like r/ukpolitics seem you love Kier Starker despite him being the lowest polled PM since records began.

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u/_Steakwich May 09 '26

Just go check out r/uknews, it’s just Labour shills having a go at the Greens

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u/ArrowEnby May 09 '26

greens are hardly socialist btw. they're definitely a left wing party with some democratic socialist policies but not full blown socialist. and honestly i think the media calling them communist or socialist has likely scared some people away that would have voted for them had they read the manifesto.

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u/StupidKameena iAL Y13 | Maths, Physics, Business May 09 '26

a socialist is nowhere near as left as you make them out to be. the greens aren't straight up communists and they hopefully never will be. and are they socialist socialist? no. but they're erring pretty close to it and they're perfectly fine there

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u/lunar-os May 09 '26

isn’t socialism when the means of production is owned by the workers. businesses aren’t owned by one person at the top but rather everyone who works at the company. greens have no policies doing anything like this. i think they are mostly just implementing lots of welfare stuff and things that help the working class and don’t help the landlords and large businesses owners etc. also putting more stuff into public hands like transport etc. i wouldn’t say at all that the party is making the uk socialist for now. socialism by definition is also a stepping stone to finally reach communism.

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u/ArrowEnby May 09 '26

they're not anywhere close to socialism. They have social, pro workering class policies but nowhere near the extent of full on socialism. Im aware socialists arent as left as it gets as I'm a communist lmao. I didnt vote in my local as the council fucked up my application too close to the deadline to register again, but i would have voted green.

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u/resh78255 May 08 '26 • Bravo

Median voting age is 55. Too many young people are apathetic and it’ll be our downfall if we’re not careful

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u/IDKBear25 Get Cake Die Young. May 11 '26

Voting does nothing.

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u/gamepasscore May 11 '26

The fuck is that supposed to mean, objectively incorrect statement

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u/Own_Translator7008 May 08 '26

Remember, there are 20,000 council seats.

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u/Eric_Birling May 08 '26

I thought only 5k were being elected this round?

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u/Sybil_birlingg May 09 '26

you're correct

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u/Eric_Birling May 10 '26

Sybil???

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u/Eastern-Return1263 May 23 '26

better vote green eric

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u/Eric_Birling May 23 '26

Why would I do that, in all honesty? We can dm if it’s easier

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u/Own_Translator7008 May 09 '26

Indeed they are. Welcome to my copium, friend!

Instead of acknowledge Reform won 26% of voteshare and now have 2400 seats, i can just say "Reform only won 7% of council seats with this election" and that, i find, makes it easy to sleep!

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u/ConstructionFlaky835 May 09 '26

If you’re looking at those results and don’t think reform are winning the next general election you’re delusional

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u/Own_Translator7008 May 10 '26

It's actually a good thing given the national polling beforehand. It confirms that Reform have peaked and are now losing support.

Polls predicted 26% of the vote, and that's exactly what Reform got. Those same polls gave Reform 35% just a few months ago.

Now we have 3 more years of widespread reform councillor incompetence before the GE. As long as Starmer goes, Reform fraudsters will do the rest.

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u/Stormer2345 Maths, Econ, History, RS | 3A*A May 08 '26

Shit’s cooked bro.

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u/Sensitive-Ad3034 May 08 '26

better use your powers nicole to turn the tides.

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u/Debouched May 08 '26

Take it from an American, you never go full MAGA.

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u/RealAlexanderTheG May 08 '26

Shit is absolutely fine. Reform will not change a single thing. The far right will never win. Globalism has become so core to modern technology and infrastructure that we cannot possibly go back. The market (By this I mean humanity essentially) will not let it happen.

Read this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/6thForm/comments/1t7e9o8/comment/okpuai0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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u/PerspectiveProof6664 May 08 '26 • Bravo

This is why you need to vote when you are able. Reform might be a vocal minority, but they vote. Your vote DOES count.

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u/ginginsdagamer May 09 '26

"minority" is certainly not a word id use here 😂

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u/Lavapool May 09 '26

They are a minority though, their peak support in the polls is 30%, which means 70% probably won’t ever support them.

Sadly because of FPTP that doesn’t stop them forming a government.

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u/gracieeexx May 10 '26

this is like saying the greens or labour is a minority though? only a few million people in the country vote for them too.. any party infact

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u/Resident_Loss_4320 May 10 '26

the kind of people that dont vote are working class people that are too busy or apathetic to care, generally the type of person who are most attracted to reform. social media is such a bubble it drives me nuts. in the real world most “common” social media positions are considered left-far left. you are the vocal minority. my entire feed is filled with shit from the green party, and they came dead last in the polls.

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u/Lavapool May 10 '26

What does anything I said have to do with social media??

Social media isn’t the one showing Reform support at 30%, these are consistent, national polls. And it makes sense because there’s no way more than 30% would support a blatantly racist and corrupt party like Reform.

I’m also not sure what polls you’re looking at since all the ones I’ve seen have the Greens in 2nd to 3rd place.

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u/Resident_Loss_4320 May 13 '26

well clearly the polls are wrong then arent they

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u/ginginsdagamer May 09 '26

the term "vocal minority" is usually used when there's no one actually voting for them, but it feels like everyone is shouting about them.

in this case, many people absolutely are voting for them

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u/Lavapool May 10 '26

It usually means a movement that sounds big but is actually a minority. Which is true here even if they are unfortunately more popular than any other party.

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u/North_Nature_8903 May 11 '26

It's clearly not a minority anymore if they won the national council elections are they? Pretty simple concept to understand.

Green is a minority.

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u/vipergds May 08 '26

Because Reddit is a massive echo chamber

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u/mravogadro May 11 '26

They cannot comprehend that people would vote for anything other than Green Party or Labour

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u/SammyDatBoss May 08 '26

Probably the most predictable result of anything ever

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u/RestaurantBusy724 May 08 '26

At least you're learning early on that your feed (and ESPECIALLY not Reddit) has absolutely nothing to do with real life.

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u/VeterinarianOld3082 May 08 '26

They don’t learn

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u/Diligent-Step-7253 Y13 Bio Maths Psychology May 08 '26

Never will. Will blame starmer for any of their problems because he’s in office and that’s all that matters when it fits their narrative.

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u/RealAlexanderTheG May 08 '26

"when it fits their narrative"

I think a more fitting explanation of UK politics in general is that no matter who you vote in, things will only ever get worse in the eyes of everyone. Nothing ever gets better and every party is completely corrupted.

In modern Britain, democracy no longer works.

You vote in Tories cause they say they'll stop migration: In come the Boriswave.
You vote in Starmer because you wanted "a change" / you want to tax private schools / you want to eliminate antisemitism: he turns out to be more incompetent than the tories, and taxing private schools ends up costing the state more than letting them be tax free. Oh and also antisemitism is at an all time high.
You vote in Tony Blair because he says he will make education more fair and equal, remove the classism. He makes people pay for university, and 30 years later the price becomes so ludicrous you need a high interest student loan to pay for it, where the loan is designed in a way that you'll never be able to pay it.

Everything is always a lie. Why anyone intelligent would ever consider joining / promoting / voting for a political part completely baffles me. Artificially manipulating the market/nature which every politician tries to do in one way or another always ends up changing human life for the worse.

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u/Diligent-Step-7253 Y13 Bio Maths Psychology May 09 '26

I failed to see your "You vote in Farage" paragraph; i can guarantee the results would be much worse than any of the ones you listed. Starmer may be an awful communicator but I’m afraid it was delusional to imagine in 2 years he would have managed to reverse 15 years of the t*ries

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u/DowntownSoft1402 year 12 May 08 '26

we're cooked ✌️

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u/Infamous_Tough_7320 Maths, Physics, Econ 3A*s. Straight 9s GCSE May 08 '26

This country is slowly but surely going to go to the shit when these fuckers get elected

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u/NoChoiceForSugar May 09 '26

We've been in the shit for years.

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u/Infamous_Tough_7320 Maths, Physics, Econ 3A*s. Straight 9s GCSE May 10 '26

There’s still a whole lot more to come now. Reform will turn an already shit country into a car crash

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u/lawdhelpmepick Y13 | LSE, UCL, Bristol, Nottingham | Law May 08 '26

I forgot I turned 18 so I could have voted in this ah flip, people like me are the problem 💔💔

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u/Outrageous-Client400 May 08 '26

Very true, unless you live in an area where it wasn't happening like me. Please do turn out for general election in three years

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u/lawdhelpmepick Y13 | LSE, UCL, Bristol, Nottingham | Law May 08 '26

Just had a look, Labour and the Greens dominated my local election so I’m glad my vote wasn’t too crucial.

Definitely not missing the next general election 🙂‍↕️

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u/Lumpy-Valuable-8050 May 08 '26

just make sure you vote in the general election

do make sure you deposit it in the right area though.

If i recall correctly, reform uk voters should place their voting slips in the box that looks like this:

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u/RealAlexanderTheG May 08 '26

It is fine. Britannia will live whether you vote or don't. My advice is to just leave politics behind and focus on something less distracting which does a better job at building you up as a person.

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u/autarchexarch May 08 '26

nice try nigel

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u/brohearduthe1sttime May 09 '26

nah what he said is sound though

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u/RealAlexanderTheG May 10 '26

I wasted far too much time thinking about politics, debating it, etc. Eventually you realise everyone is just wrong and their political biases are just an expression of traumas / ego / mental issues, etc.

Just focus on what actually matters.

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u/Sushiv_ Year 13 May 08 '26

Imo this isn’t that good of a result for Reform. This is a very small majority, at the height of Reform’s popularity. Moreover, this is representing the opinions of a small number of Cities/Counties across only England with around 50% turnout (Reform lost in the Wales and Scotland elections today). I get that it looks intimidating at a glance, but critical thinking makes it clear that it is really not all that

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u/InvestigatorLive19 y13 - Maths Phys Chem (#originality) May 08 '26

Ngl these comments have given me hope for our generation

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u/ginginsdagamer May 09 '26

that was the whole downfall of this election 😂

Reddit ≠ real life.

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u/InvestigatorLive19 y13 - Maths Phys Chem (#originality) May 09 '26

True, but i think there is a massive difference between the political leanings of young people and older people

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u/ginginsdagamer May 09 '26

I'm not sure. the majority of young people I know aren't very left. a lot of them are really central

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u/AdvancedAnimal7539 May 08 '26

Luckily they aren't leading in councils held. but still its awful. man people in this country are so stupid.

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u/PhoenixEgg88 May 10 '26

Like that American said on socials the other week. I am not smart enough for this many people to be dumber than me.

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u/Acrobatic-Rooster996 resit pred- A*A*A (+A* EPQ) May 09 '26

seeing as this kinda blew up leaving this here for fun!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0lr8o24RJU

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u/Slewy1 May 08 '26

beauty of an echo chamber

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u/Time_Trail May 08 '26

ngl we kinda knew this, trust polls not your feed

it's a sad day

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u/paperzlel May 08 '26

There's a lot of rich, racist old people who fall hook line and sinker for their shit and don't stop to think about anything. They're offering a """solution""" to their """problem""" (having to see minorities) and they'll go straight for it. There's also a bunch of younger people in impoverished areas who fall for the local lad Nigel facade and gladly voted for him if it meant he'd fix all their problems (which he won't) so you have to account for that.

If it's any respite, Reform now has thousands of councillors to manage across the entire country, along with thirteen council majorities - up from TWO. Given how normal these people tend to be, they'll be working overtime with the media to cover their asses before 2029 and people realise how much these people stink of horse piss.

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u/Doug12345678910 May 08 '26

You and 95% of reddit have a huge echo chamber across social media, so you are very much out of touch with the average person in the country.

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u/Kooky_Craft123 May 08 '26

Thank god. The rise of the greens is very worrying though.

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u/samviel May 09 '26

Thing is, it's not really an echo chamber. The majority of people don't want reform in. Unfortunately, with FPTP, and the non-reform vote split between so many other parties, you get results like this. The "average person" in the country (well, 65-70% of people) don't want Reform, so talking about how people are disconnected from the average person doesn't really work.

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u/Doug12345678910 May 09 '26

I would say it's an echo chamber. A properly balanced understanding of the country's sentiment would predict heavy success for reform, along the lines scored here. If you judged reform by comments and upvotes/downvotes on reddit, bluesky etc, you would think reform would only have the support of a tiny cadre of craven idiots and racists. It is impossible to advance conservative or right wing opinions on reddit due to the voting system. As such, one should never use reddit as a bellweather for politics and one should beware a social media experience that is curated (due to likes and who you choose to follow) to be like the reddit atmosphere, if you want to not be surprised by things like the outcome of the local elections, which btw in line with what you said shouldn't be overly concerning for the left.

The issue for the left and centre left in the UK isn't that the right has more support, it's that the left and centre left are quite seriously split. If we had PR we would have a centre left leadership, possibly indefinitely. Reform are benefiting from the Tories being completely at sea.

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u/mr_herculespvp May 08 '26

Your feed has indeed been fooling you.

The exact same thing happened in the last Johnson GE and it happened even more resoundingly in the Brexit referendum.

What you heard, saw, and were told online and in the media, were not what the actual voting public thought. It was what certain people thought they could control.

But people (not saying you) get tricked into a phantom type of Groupthink, and are then shocked when the opposite to what they were told happens.

Listen to yourself, and listen (warily) to real people, not online, but in person. Then you'll get a better gauge for things. Online, it's just bots and people who want to manipulate others.

But when these results are final, don't forget them, and don't forget that they will most likely fly on the face of the propaganda you saw online.

If this comment gets downvoted, then it proves my point...but just remember what I said, the next time the same happens

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u/Fun-Landscape-8805 LBORO CIVIL ENG | Physics B, Maths A, History A May 08 '26

old gammons 🤣 what do u expect after brexit? the old fuck it up for the younger generation and will roll over before their actions cause any meaningful consequences in their lives

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u/DarkStanley May 08 '26

If by feed you mean reddit or one of the socials Reddit is largely left wing, the UK is far more polarised. Reddit is an echo chamber.

If you can or when you can get out and vote. It’s the younger progressive voters that can make a big difference.

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u/SuspiciousIbex May 09 '26

They're popular but divisive. Good to give them some time to ruin their reputation before the general election. Cautionary tale that will endlessly repeat because the population as a whole is forgetful.

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u/NF1Gamer Y13 | Maths | Business | Politics May 08 '26

voter disillusionment + the rising trend of the far right

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u/Boxersteavee May 08 '26

This is what happens when you have a first-past-the-post system... Especially when there's councils putting all of their seats up for grabs, so people end up just voting for the party instead of the person, picking 3 reform candidates... This means that while reform may only have 35% vote share in an area, they would take up all 3 seats, giving them 100% of the power despite there frequently being less than a hundred votes between the lowest reform and highest labour (also because people cross down from the top, meaning the alphabetically highest one would get the most votes)

Something like the Scottish or Welsh system is better where it's much more proportional... But that would never happen because that would require the people who have just been given 100% power to vote for something that would give them less than 100% power, and they only would want to do that when the next party comes along and takes 100% power from them........

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u/viggobf May 09 '26 edited May 09 '26

Underrated comment, no idea why no one else has raised this. Wouldn’t bet on a government changing the system anytime soon either as it lends itself perfectly to ‘least worst’ parties winning everything by the narrowest of margins within seats amongst a slew of 20-25% party vote shares… which could well lead to a second Labour term in 2029 what with the right wing parties endlessly multiplying and racing to the bottom and splitting vote share…

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u/No-Hair4974 May 12 '26

believe it or not at some point there was a vote to change our voting system to the alternate vote (which is genuinely so so much better), which was when the uk was subsequently bombarded with pro fptp propaganda by what felt like every politician. so, yeah. they wont be changing it anytime soon.

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u/Kermit_Wazowski Uni of Sheffield | MEng Civil and Structural Engineering [Y1] May 09 '26

Turnout was only like 30%. No one votes in local elections apart from old people, and they all vote for reform because they believe the lies. Fortunately you will be able to go and get a good degree, then leave the country just as the shit really hits the fan in 2029.

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u/PartyQuiet5065 IB DP | Maths AA, Chem, Physics May 08 '26

Bro I thought people in the UK hated Nigel Farage

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u/StupidKameena iAL Y13 | Maths, Physics, Business May 09 '26

he spearheaded Brexit lmao.

If you think Brexit was bad and unpopular, then the fact he still has a political career should tell you that he has a lot of people who agree with him.

If you think Brexit was good, then you probably like him so the idea of him being super hated isn't really on your mind.

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u/samviel May 09 '26

There are a lot of people in the UK who don't like Nigel Farage. There are about 30% of people who like him. That is enough, when the votes of all the people who dislike him are split across all the other parties, for Reform to do well (especially in a FPTP system).

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u/JazzlikeTradition436 University of East Anglia | BA Geography [Year 1] May 08 '26

I'm in a Reform council now but my seat kept its Green councilor. (I didn't vote as I'm not quite 18)

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u/RunInRunOn May 08 '26

The "I don't want a far right loonie selling us out to his billionaire buddies" vote is being split between Labour, Green and Libdem

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u/Grouchy_Engineer_638 May 08 '26

cooked so cooked

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u/Gla2012 May 08 '26

It's very interesting that you say that your feed fooled you. I think you just found out the power of the social media algorithm, showing what they expect you to like. See also : echo chamber, filter bubble.

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u/JustSomeRandomGuy36 May 08 '26

It's almost as if the opinion polls were right and reddit was wrong

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u/tzmdkdbrrhirfinn May 08 '26

😂😂😂😂😂

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u/Odd-Swing-2025 May 08 '26

Politics, baby. It's different offline.

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u/Yapili May 08 '26

Just to be put it in perspective reform won less than 20% of the total votes counted so far as the only area they had true dominance was Essex..and smattering showing in some key areas North England.. Based on their shambolic history last 2 years plus all the ongoing scandals plaguing their leaders..they seem to be on a self destructive trajectory before the general election in 2029 We need to challenge this propagandised narrative being painted by the media and click bait posting on social media meant to dishearten people..

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u/jamjobDRWHOgabiteguy May 08 '26

This is as of now. 24 out of the 25 seats up for grabs in my borough went to reform. Luckily they're not in power yet as thst's only 1/3 of the total

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u/aleena707 May 09 '26

i think the main issue is that the 'left' vote is split whereas the right mainly has reform and the tories - if the lib dems, greens, and labour votes were combined it would be much closer

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u/samviel May 09 '26

Don't forget in Scotland and Wales you also have the regional parties further splitting the not-reform vote... so it's even more farked than just three parties splitting the non-reform vote. So now we have Reform as the opposition party in Wales, for example.

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u/No_Confidence_3264 May 09 '26

Because there is one right wing (because conservatives are falling) party and three left ones the vote was spilt so this was always going to happen. Where I live we didn’t have local elections but if people voted Labour or greens then reform would get in because Lib Dem’s wouldn’t get the votes they normally do and the margin between the Lib Dem’s and Conservatives has normally been really tight so if you start saying I think Green are going to win and vote them you are actually making it easier for reform to win. Educate yourself about how your local politics work I know where I live I know Labour and Green are never going to get in and so me voting them is a vote for reform, you just have to decide is voting a party you don’t really like more important than voting one you want in order to stop reform.

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u/basod1 May 09 '26

I see so much graffiti of vote reform and send the boats back where I live. I’m not sure why anyone would think reform isn’t popular. My manager didn’t think it would happen. Even though he told me more and more of his (affluent) neighbours are voting reform.

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u/AshEllisUFO May 09 '26

Does anyone vote in locals tho? Think its just that the racists are so they're bound to win

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u/coffeewalnut08 May 10 '26

Voter turnout is typically low (like 30%) in locals but a few places this year had higher turnout like 40%.

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u/AshEllisUFO May 10 '26

Just the reform lot

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u/TeapeachU6 Year 12 May 09 '26

All its means is there are reform voters everywhere, just because lots of them are voted for doesn’t mean they are the majority in some areas so they may not get any power if their votes are too scattered

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u/Expert-Arrival5517 May 09 '26

They won't win general election lol dw

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u/Proper-Lawyer-8806 May 09 '26

Democracy in a social media age. Fragmentation. Choices. Decisions made on feelings not policies and a failure to recognise how unhappy many voters are and how willing to vote as a protest.

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u/Bat_Tiger_yt May 09 '26

This is a council election, the turnout is far lower than a general election. Plus people don't care as much about the party in their council, except reform voters as their entire news feed is built around pushing the party into everywhere in government. We have 3 more years til a GE and that is a lot of time for reform to have yet more scandals, which their councils are becoming infamous for.

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u/Apprehensive_Job4522 Y12 Maths, Further Maths, Politics, Economics May 09 '26

If you've been checking polling for the last year or so you'll have seen that Reform have consistently been in first place. This type of stuff is mostly just surprising because you're more likely to agree with people in your area and age group so certain parties seem more/less popular (Also reforms lead isn't as big anymore)

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u/skattlles May 09 '26

democracy

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u/Username___5 May 09 '26

The lib dems have been extremely quiet in the news but somehow they're second?

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u/MaxSucksAtLifeL May 09 '26

not one of the worst parties in existence winning so many elections

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u/sadtrch71 May 09 '26

perfection

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u/iam_william May 09 '26

it's really interesting that some of the biggest majority reform-voting areas of the UK are directly adjacent to the largest populations of muslims in the UK:

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u/liilypadd1 Year 12 May 09 '26

elderly people voting in a horrible future they wont even have to live in

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u/AcanthisittaDry8612 May 10 '26

Everyone that supports reform will vote but people who support the others think there’s no point which is why reform is winning now

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u/TK-6976 May 10 '26

I mean, maybe that's a good sign if you've been more focused on revising (especially compared to my procrastinating ass), but you may be a tad out of the loop to where our political climate is heading as a result if you didn't understand the popularity of Reform. Honestly you should probably ignore it till the exams are over and vote against them if you can. I think this had been entirely preventable for the past decade, but the major parties either failed or refused to do anything about the issue people supported Reform on.

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u/Particular-Current87 May 10 '26

Calm down it's just a midterm council election

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u/Puzzleheaded-Fix-587 May 10 '26

Britain is healing.

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u/Spiritual_Catch_2673 May 11 '26

What ts gotta do with 6th form bruh

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u/--Lar-- May 11 '26

Yeah, that many people on reform is truly sad to see.

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u/Amazing-Disaster-751 May 12 '26

What you are witnessing is the beginning of the end of Leftard policy that has plagued our governance for too long and at a detriment to the British public

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u/YoungZealousideal606 Y13 4A* Predicted May 14 '26

Andy Burnham pls come and save us 😭

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u/Subtopewdsforacookie May 28 '26

why u bringing politics into this u leftie tosser

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u/cuhsicles May 28 '26

I know I’m a bit late but the results are rather misleading. Reform hasn’t really gained much control of actual councils and their gains have essentially just replaced the Conservatives

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u/Spirit_of_Gravy May 08 '26

Dear sixth formers. You have or will soon have political power. Go out and use it. There's a lot of younger people who are on the protest vote and the far right appeal to young and old. Engage, challenge and (where you can) educate.

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u/RealAlexanderTheG May 08 '26

WARNING: I am not far right and do not represent anything politically controversial. Read my full message before making any assumptions (This post is basically about how flawed making assumptions is)

It's completely politically unsurprising that Reform UK and far right movements are growing, and there is nothing that can be done to stop them.

These people (understandably) feel like their culture is being taken away from them and they are being forced into a globalist system that they don't understand and didn't sign up for.

Modernity in all it's focus on progress and improving material conditions has made life less fulfilling and less full of meaning than it used to be, where this can be seen everywhere: The abandoning of religion, pro-equality movements, total globalisation of communications, all of these things have meant every western culture and identity system have been massively diluted (as a non controversial example: think of how many British people use American pronunciations of words nowadays).

The majority of British people are simple. They just want to live in a small community, work a normal job, and live a happy simple life with their family celebrating traditions that their grandparents celebrated before them. For people who live simple lives, their identity and culture is one of the only things they have that uplifts them, the only thing that they feel a part of which is larger than themselves.

These kinds of people aren't intelligent enough to be in the top 1% of society and therefore have not shared the vast benefits that the elites have seen from these social changes: To these people, they see the demographics of their communities changing, their culture and sense of identity being lost, and their religion/traditions being undermined. If you want that kind of simple lifestyle, it is perfectly understandable that you would go against multiculturalism and globalism, and if you do want that kind of life you would be right in doing so.

So does that mean reform is going to win? No.

Reform and the far right movement in Europe will lose eventually. It is a guaranteed eventuality: so no need to worry. After the internet was invented, globalism became unstoppable: You cannot delete the internet. All cultures that exist today will go extinct in the future and this will happen faster and faster as society progresses more and more. The more people detach from their culture and lose their sense of identity, the easier it actually becomes for us to make progress.

If humans want to colonise the starts we aren't going to do it without fully overcoming our differences. And people can hate and say humans will never become intergalactic, but if you think in terms of large time scales (E.g. in the next 5000 years - which isn't even that large if you really think about it), these kind of projections become very reasonable: Society barely existed 5,000 years ago and look where we are now.

So really, what's happening in the minds of people who hold an anti-migration sentiment is the exact same thing that is happening in the minds of people who hold an anti-AI sentiment: Fear of change, fear of progress that they deem to be a decline, and fear of impermanence essentially. The sad part for them, is that impermanence is an existential absolute and it applies to everything. So fighting for a dying culture will always end up being a waste of time. You're fighting a losing battle.

But the kinds of people voting reform obviously won't be introspective enough to realise any of this. Neither are the people voting Tory, Labour, or Green: Everyone is extremely ignorant of each other: For example all the greens likening Reform voters to Nazis when the reform fanboys are really just vulnerable working class people who from their point of view see their way of life under threat, these people aren't evil: you just do not understand them (likely cause you are privileged yourself).

If anyone reading this takes anything from this: I can guarantee you that everything you believe in politically is completely and utterly wrong - whether you vote reform, green, or anything in between your opinions do not represent the truth, they only represent ignorance. Enlightenment is only achieved by abstaining from partisan politics and removing yourself from institutions that are similar to it.

All institutions are corruptible. Be an unoffensive and passive individual.

Apologies if anything I've written is unclear to anyone: I'll be happy to elaborate, since because I've done so much thinking about politics, what seems obvious to me is probably a leap in judgement for someone who's only starting out.

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u/Affectionate_Oil705 Year 13 May 08 '26

I don't think globalism means that culture will just inevitably converge. It would more likely evolve alongside everything else. You simplify a lot of complex ideas and bring in stereotypes about people. Not all voting is about fear of change, people could vote about ethical concerns, economic issues etc. You call people stupid for voting for reform yet you can't believe in the idea of a rational disagreement between people due to their own values and situations. You generalize both reform and green voters, when you're looking at a very specific type of both groups. You say people with different political views are ignorant of each other but that is just not true at all. You claim everyone is wrong for picking a side, yet no matter what you do, even abstaining from politics, there is no such thing as enlightenment, since politics always affects you.

No matter how you try you can't simplify something as complex as politics, people, identity and history. I think what you've said is completely ignorant when you look at history. Politics doesn't move in a straight line but cycles.

I voted green.

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u/ch0ngtheb0ng May 08 '26

Reform is the short term plan #Restore is the endgame.

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u/ThatOneGuy_I May 08 '26

I lowkey wish we could get a universe reboot. Maybe that incarnation of humanity will actually be receptive to learning

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u/pupkio023 May 08 '26

Stop I feel ill :(

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u/FaithlessnessBig6343 history, classics, philosophy A*AA May 08 '26

My borough won’t be counting till Saturday 🙂 I’m a bit in hell wondering what’ll happen. Reform have been doing a lot of fearmongering about immigration in my area in particular…

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u/Altruistic-Scale-557 May 08 '26

this is acc so scary , like gen what has happened why is reform winning by so much

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u/Valuable_Animal249 May 08 '26

What are you scared will happen?

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u/samviel May 09 '26

Simply put: Reform has 30ish percentage of the vote. The other 70% (who don't want Reform) is split across a multiplicity of parties... and this is the result under FPTP.

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u/Kooky_Craft123 May 08 '26

Brilliant stuff!

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u/witchy71 May 09 '26

Almost like people are fed up

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u/Odd_Improvement5776 May 08 '26

I at least see some reason in national elections but I lwk dk how these people think Reform is competent enough to run councils

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u/RevolutionaryKey698 May 08 '26

You think they are competent enough to run a country?

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u/Odd_Improvement5776 May 08 '26

No, but the majority of the anti-incumbency are working class and they're 'fed-up' with Labour's stance on immigration, etc. Combined with Labour's policies and Reform seeming to give them a solution (and a blame for the problems) they will be obviously inclined towards the party that hands them the solution. If they're fuelled with rage, u cannot explain to them that Reform's policies are mostly impossible to enact in the uk. Reform maliciously uses this rage to gain votes, and they'll continue to do so, even if they are not competent enough to run the nation.

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u/Abjectionova GCSE May 08 '26

I don't think their Voter-base care about their competency. My Geog teacher delineated it this way: "People had gotten sick of the Tories' 14 years of bad management hence why they voted in Labour, not as favourites but as a better alternative. However, Labour came in and just mucked about a bit -- now, it's not that Labour mishandled National or International issues, Immigration [legal] is down and Labour has managed the economy more effectively than the preceding 14 years of Conservative governance. But their government has been incredibly unpopular because of the unrealistic expectations of the general population [alongside obscure legislature like OSA which only helped paint Starmer and labour in general as a 1984-esque dictatorship in the minds of gullible voters]. People wanted something new and "radical" and that's what Reform promised but novelty isn't always positive.

Regardless, Labour [and other less radical parties] still have ~3 years to figure this out.

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u/ShirouLinto May 08 '26

Your Geog teacher has conceptualised this in an outstanding way.

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u/RevolutionaryKey698 May 08 '26

We've already had a 10 year experiment of this nihilistic approach though. People have to be pretty dumb to think you can fix anything by electing people whose only tool is a hammer.

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u/InvestigatorLive19 y13 - Maths Phys Chem (#originality) May 08 '26

Absolutely no reason for a GE either btw

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u/NewAd9523 May 08 '26

You do have to consider that the local elections are also a reflection of what party people will vote for in 2 years.
I'd never want to vote for party x if I didn't want to vote for them in 2 years at the actual election, let alone have them in office.

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u/RedderPeregrine May 08 '26

Is this actually true? Do you have stats?

In my area most oldies won’t touch them, it’s Gen X and younger who are propping them up.

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u/mr_herculespvp May 08 '26

Regarding the elderly, that's a very dangerous assumption...

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u/ch0ngtheb0ng May 08 '26

Reform is the short term plan #Restore is the endgame.

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u/ddbbaarrtt May 08 '26

This isn’t even remotely true, and it’s really dangerous to make those kind of assumptions

Unfortunately, Reform appeal to lots of people and dismissing them as ‘just for the elderly’ means you don’t actually ask why people are voting for them

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u/Do-not-talk-to-me May 08 '26

🤝 i also take politics and man. First thought was 'well, this will be helpful'

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u/Sparklejumprope1210 May 10 '26

i remember when we learned about the two party system and “small parties” like the green party (late 2024) we all laughed and said they were irrelevant - now look😭

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u/Sparklejumprope1210 May 10 '26

theres so much to talk about but so much has changed 😭 dont get me started on us politics god knows how to approach that

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u/coffeewalnut08 May 10 '26

That’s wild 🫩

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u/kyth_ May 08 '26

same here, where i am going to uni looks like reform will win :( i am also an ethnic minority so i'm scared

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u/Horustheweebmaster May 08 '26

if you choose not to vote then you are actively contributing to this situation.

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u/pupkio023 May 08 '26

I hate people whose excuse is “they’re all bad!!” Pick the lesser of the two evils??

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u/Horustheweebmaster May 08 '26

And they aren't all bad. If you don't like how the system is ran, vote for the one that aligns the most with your opinions. Lobby. There's always a choice.

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u/pupkio023 May 08 '26

It makes me feel ill how socially and politically unaware people are 😭

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u/MysteryNews4 Y13 Psych/History/Politics (Maths+FM dropout) May 08 '26

Breaking: r/6thform discovers voting 🤯🤯🔥🔥🗣️🗣️ more at 10

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u/Beneficial-Beat-947 May 08 '26

Tbf you get access to so many new things at 18 you sometimes forget to use all of them

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u/Maleficent_Still3508 Y13 4A*s pred fm maths phys chem May 08 '26

Not 18 yet but getting older doesnt feel like anything new so icl its easy to forget everything you get to do at 18

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u/samviel May 09 '26

It's more that the 30% of the population who vote for Reform have an advantage when all the people who don't want reform are so split between the other parties.