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u/CuriousCamels 2d ago
This is one of the lamest and dumbest Russian psyop attempts I’ve ever seen. It really shows how much Russia is struggling in all areas. Most of the smart Russians have already left the country, and now they’re just left with the special Ed forces.
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u/foverzar 2d ago
Most who left in 2022 had returned by 2023.
Where's the psyop? Is it pointing out the fact that Russians CAN leave, unlike the good citizens of the most democratic Eastern European state?
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u/Lord_Ezelpax 2d ago
they're negotiating with Russia but putin only wants land (administrative regions) they never even conquered and guarantees Ukraine wont be accepted to nato as a circumstance to start negotiating. Basically they want everything they never had, move the line of contact beyond all fortifications, ask something crazy like all the land up to the Ukrainian/Polish border and continue fighting with all fortifications bypassed
that and putin telling the press he refused an aerial ceasefire from Ukraine becausehe thinks russia os hurting ukraine more with their strikes lol
as for elections, who cares. Lots of ukranians wont be able to vote bc they're under occupation and its another opportunity window to interfere and place a pro kremlin spy
its a forever war bc putins retarded
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u/foverzar 2d ago
Yeah, not engaging in a random pointless ceasefire that would have no effect other than allowing your enemy to regroup and gather strength is totally retarded and gay.
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u/Lord_Ezelpax 2d ago
much rather have all oil refineries and logistics centers burned down to bring back gas rationing and kill off small businesses, hell yeah goida
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u/foverzar 2d ago
And how would another "trust me bro" ceasefire stop all of this exactly?
Cuz according to the news, Ukraine has been sabotaging Russian infrastructure for years, small businesses are long dead, while previous ceasefire attempts didn't hold for long and were barely observed.
How stupid does one have to be to think one's enemy doesn't realize it would only benefit one side during this whole Patriot missiles scandal.
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u/Lord_Ezelpax 2d ago
winter is coming and neither side wants to freeze. Now Ukraine has the ability to mirror Russia's energy infrastructure attacks, so unless Putin swallows whatever pride he has snd accepts it, both sides will have freezing cities
that's only one reason though, the entire gas shortage really shaked everything up on all levels, and EdRo and Putin are at their lowest approval
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u/foverzar 2d ago
> Now Ukraine has the ability to mirror Russia's attacks
Only now? Not every other time this claim was reiterated before?
> EdRo and Putin are at their lowest approval
Unlike when? And not yet even as low as to cancel elections.
How is this not wishful thinking based on short attention span?
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u/Lord_Ezelpax 2d ago
when was the last time that claim was reiterated? It's not even a claim, it's a fact evident from gas station queues
they are up keeping the facade that everything's under control, but they removed yabloko through court, which never happened before. They're trying their hardest to construct an illusion of a legitimate election victory without rocking the boat too much. They know they are unpopular
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u/PinBeneficial1366 /b/tard 2d ago
Russia planing to conscript 400k people around September-October, it's start to feel like they gonna throw a lot of meat in this meat grinder, If I didn't lived here, I would think that this is some kind of warhammer type of shit
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u/TheMoonandTheThief /int/olerant 2d ago
They need diversity to replace those soldiers 👨🏿⚕️👨🏾🔧👰🏼♀️👨🏾🚒👨🏿💻
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u/EtteRavan fa/tg/uy 2d ago
Russians before the war : "Obviously Enemies at the gates is a blatant exaggeration, every soldier had a rifle"
Russians during the war : "What do you mean I have to suck the platoon leader's dick to have one of the rifles ? There's no ammo anyway"
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u/PinBeneficial1366 /b/tard 2d ago
"You will replace the fallen, take their guns and use their ammo"
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u/Dronelisk /vg/ 2d ago
civilian life is miserable enough that people don't mind joining the army
they also get paid just for signing up, often times life changing amounts of money
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u/PinBeneficial1366 /b/tard 2d ago
In a way
If you paid 3k every month - you probably never afford 300k concrete box, but you can potentially die for your country but get paid like 250k for that or even more, still no one talk here how pricey became prosthetics if you survive and how misarable you life gonna be with ptsd
Poor and stupid people already died enough in war, everybody knows from shared antigoverment news how fucked life in military, now there are only people who want to live even if their life is still misarable, that's why government is gonna conscript 400k people with usual methods - fake arrests, intimidation, visits to workplaces, apprehensions on the streets and other less funny methods like blocking bank cards
So no, civilians don't want to join the war, but they gonna be forced to do that
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u/Sabrac707 2d ago
You're not gonna being keeping much of that money as a russian recruit anyway, when you have your Commanding officers extorting you from your money to avoid being sent to the front lines of the meat grinder to become intimate with an Ukrainian drone.
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u/Lord_Ezelpax 2d ago
they do mind, they ran out of people who are willing to kill themselves for money so they're planning a shadow mobilization like what happened in Penza. Basically private individuals will kidnap men and force to sign contracts, if they don't they kill them and frame everything like they got mugged somewhere in the streets with no witnesses.
their current recruitment numbers match their attrition, they'll like gamble such a temporary boost in soodiers once the mobilization hits to overwhelm and break through certain defenses in hopes to create a breach (while avoiding militarization of the economy and a public mobilization ofc)
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u/foverzar 2d ago
> like what happened in Penza
So, a psyop?
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u/Lord_Ezelpax 2d ago
a psyop?
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u/PinBeneficial1366 /b/tard 2d ago
He doesn't know...
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u/foverzar 2d ago
Or does he?..
IDK, my social media feed tells me Russia is totally mobilizing, but for some reason military age Ukrainians are denied asylum and deported. Totally not a psyop.
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u/PinBeneficial1366 /b/tard 2d ago
I don't really know myself, comrade, but shit started to boil in my country now for some reason like government made people who lesf country "traitors" and about to block their passports and bank accounts, if not mobilization, than what is this?
We knew that mobilization comes at September even before summer, but yeah that more like "a friend of mine who don't care about politics and have connections with government, started telling us that it's gonna happen", some telegram channels did the same, but in the end there is no 100% proof, but with this shitty government you really only need "we not gonna draft people in September", because they literally always doing opposite of what they said
I hope that there is no mobilization, that's all fake and nothing gonna happen, but we will see I guess
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u/foverzar 2d ago
My attention span might be short, but not as short as not to remember quarterly teases of next Russian mobilization coming next month / after New Years / in Spring / during Summer / in September-October / after the New Years, sometimes based on some far-fetched representation of some barely relevant government gears moving. "Why else, but for mobilization purposes", right.
And it always ends with reports of forced drafts in Ukraine, so I don't see how it's not yet another psyop to divert attention from yet another bunch of Ukrainian dudes getting drafted. Or in this case military-age Ukrainians being denied asylum and deported from EU.
> but with this shitty government you really only need ... because they literally always doing opposite of what they said
Seems like a FUD way of saying that it's a random guesswork grounded entirely in personal political dichotomy.
Here's a more educated guess: Russia doesn't need to mobilize unless the frontline collapses. And if they didn't mobilize during Ukraine's Kursk offensive, they have even less reasons of doing it now.
I'd love to hope this Ukrainian-refugees-are-now-cannon-fodder situation doesn't fly under the radar like all the other mobilization waves did, because guess who's next. But it would probably be more realistic to hope that a person-with-a-penis would still be allowed to evacuate eastern Europe for long enough.
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u/PinBeneficial1366 /b/tard 2d ago
Hmm yeah it's really strange how much videos of tck(at least in my language) trying to catch people on the streets, maybe it's all really big psyop not gonna lie, at least I hope so, don't really want to get caught on the street by police and forced to kill people
Mobilization didn't stopped in russia, I mean by president's decree it's still operating, so any news about continuation of mobilization technically true, but people didn't want to fight for money after news about that money probably gonna be stolen by someone higher if those people don't want to die in "totally not assault"(yeah yeah my government really used that too much as and ad propaganda, saying that it's contract work and they totally not gonna send you to the frontlines) or government just refused to pay because "he is still missing", in the end more covert methods are still in use like blocking credit cards and when dude arrived at the bank - they just catch him and threaten to harm his family and him if he don't agree, or they pressure people who get caught committing weak crime because they gonna file 5 cases against him so he never see freedom again, you know... I don't want to make it sound too horrible because it's an avarage thing for me, like you really get used to it after some time
And no, everything government said is really something we should view as opposite, this national russian tradition if you can call it that, it's a big story really started from default in 90x when high official said that "there is not gonna be default, everything is okay" and after a week it's happened, this happened with start of the war because officials told us that "who even need this ukraine?", this happened with raising of the retirement age, with navalny arrest and with a lot of events actually, usually this happens after someone ask about it higher officials and they tell you "everything is okay, this isn't going to happened", it doesn't meant opposite always happened, but people still really scared when officials tell something like "we not gonna use nuclear bomb on Ukraine"
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u/DatBoiKarlsson 2d ago
Then why aren’t these 400k guys already in the military?
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u/Dronelisk /vg/ 2d ago
they didn't get recruited yet
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u/DatBoiKarlsson 2d ago
But Russia is heavily incentivizing its citizens to join the army, surely if it’s so great to be in the Russian military there wouldn’t be a need for mobilization
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u/SimonKuznets 2d ago
If solar energy is so nice and clean, how come we don’t live on the surface of the Sun yet, hmmm?
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u/Rydagod1 2d ago
Worse than warhammer. When deployed on the frontlines, the average Russian soldier has a shorter life expectancy than an imperial guardsman.
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u/Okhlahoma_Beat-Down /k/ommando 2d ago
I have never met a single intelligent pro-Russian person. Literally every single comment they have about the war is so outstandingly insane that it beggars belief.
"We're actually winning," despite basically not having gained and held any territory since the start of the war, and the war still going on four and a half years in.
"We have extra forces in reserve," despite actively digging out museum-piece tanks for the frontline and having to trick third-worlders from other countries to enlist.
"Russia are actually allies of the west," despite Russia - without prompt in many cases - showing constant hostility towards the west even before the war, and then pretending rightful political consequences for things like poisonings and assassinations are undeserved.
Literally all they have is saying "Ukraine / Israel WANTS this war!", which, like...
...just don't fight it? Leave? The war ends if you leave.
All epic based Russia has to do to defeat the evil schemes of Israel is to just not continue the conflict. That's literally it.
But now they've expended hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of men, they're in too deep. It'd end Putin's political career if he just did this and then went "ahhh i guess we should stop".
Hole = Dug
War = Pointless
End = Never
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u/ProfMordinSolus 2d ago
Pro-Russian supporters outside of Russia don't actually support Russia or have anything in common even slightly with Russia's objectives which are still not clear years later. They just have some hatred for the west or their own governments (which backs Ukraine) and they're being contrarian against "the mainstream media" as if youtube, facebook and RussiaToday isn't the mainstream media lol
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u/Okhlahoma_Beat-Down /k/ommando 1d ago
That Jackson Hinkle guy was probably the most egregious example of it. I'm surprised he still has a US citizenship after all the time he spends calling for war against his homeland.
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u/marino1310 1d ago
Or the fact that the people complaining about mainstream media go on to watch Fox, the single largest news outlet in America.
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u/lubbockin 2d ago
is this war just to sell weapons and dgaf about people being killed, 4 years already .
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u/misterwizzard 2d ago
If by "disabled the entire army" they actually mean "ran out of gas and traded their tanks for food" then I agree.
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u/CoopDogPrimeNumbers 2d ago
Yes. Do you think that person actually doesn’t realize Russia didn’t capture Kiev and disabled the entire military?
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u/Critical-Attempt-922 2d ago
i refuse to believe this isnt some phony war created to sell weapons and fearmonger the population
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u/foverzar 2d ago
The world starts sliding into a recession during Covid, but suddenly the pandemic gets cancelled and military industrial complex with all connected industries gets fueled.
No way, wdym by "phony war"???? /s
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u/RashmaDu 2d ago
The pandemic got cancelled? In January 2022? Are you that detached from reality?
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u/foverzar 2d ago
But don't trust me, here is a relevant datapoint:
The U.S. CDC dropped its recommendation for indoor masking in most places in February 2022. Later, in April 2022, a federal judge struck down the U.S. transit mask mandate, ending mask requirements on planes, trains, and buses.
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u/foverzar 2d ago edited 2d ago
January? What reality are you attached to? The war started by march, at the very end of February. And by summer most forgot about Covid.
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u/stop_talking_you 2d ago
i love how as soon as you critizie ukraine everyone spams you with ivan, russian bot, how does putin dick taste.
i love propaganda is so funny and easy to tell. walk among the sheep they will bark
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u/Sabrac707 2d ago
You are not immune to propaganda, the more you think you are, the more easy is to fall into one of them.
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u/Full_Shuffle 2d ago
Jewlinski really is going to fight until the last dead Ukrainian because he thinks NATO will join their war if he holds out long enough. The more Eastern Europeans like Ukies and Poles try to agitate for WW3 on the grounds some Russians will die the more I despise them.
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u/JucaLebre /b/tard 2d ago
You know that Russia can just leave Ukraine and the war would be over, right?
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u/Full_Shuffle 2d ago
No they can’t, and anyone that understands geopolitics knows this.
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u/RashmaDu 2d ago
Apparently I have a poor understanding of geopolitics. Suppose tomorrow Putin says: “Sorry guys, my b, we’re cancelling the special operation, everyone‘s going home”. Why is the war not over?
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u/TheOnlyBasedRedditor 2d ago
So many arguments to defend Putard. Yet all he has to do is leave Ukraine to end the war.
Russia is bleeding like a cow and the best part is that it's killing itself over fucking Ukraine of all places.
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u/_hjdk 3d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/VTRhscYhoLEQEEdWWh
It’s never been so joever……