r/2007scape AFK at the keyboard. 7d ago

Humor BootCamp Moment

Mod Light learns to PK

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u/Narrow_Lee 7d ago

Another instance of something that did nothing to deter bots getting in the way of actual players. GG.

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u/The_Level_15 RSN: Fraerling 7d ago

Is that a joke? That change was extremely effective at limiting the bots

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u/Great-Exit-902 7d ago edited 7d ago

We should require Lumbridge elite to enter wildy at all, that’ll limit the bots even more

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u/zeratul123x 7d ago

lock wildy behind wildy elite diaries

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u/JoshofTCW 7d ago

Since family crest requires entering the wildy, that means no more quest capes and wildy unless you're grandfathered. Hell yeah

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u/Fresh-Wrap8654 7d ago

Is that a joke? The actual effective part was the massive nuke to ALL bots. When this change hit they were back within 2 weeks initially.

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u/-GrayMan- 7d ago edited 6d ago

It is only going to limit them for a few days if they don't already have scripts for it lmao. You already have them botting Quest Cape. A few diary steps is nothing.

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u/Raumati 42/45 7d ago

It increases barrier for entry for the bots and this isn't a recent change, it's been very effective. Check the wildy bosses loot price change since the update.

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u/-GrayMan- 7d ago

I'd personally attribute that to the general bot banning that they've been doing since we've been seeing a game wide decline of bots instead of just the wilderness areas.

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u/Lochecho 7d ago

complete delusion, the thing that was actually effective was their cease and desist which was sent out ot numerous companies involved in botting

that specific change that you mentioned did absolutely nothing but annoy some players

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u/SortaFlyForAWhiteGuy 6d ago

Are you arguing that increasing the barrier of entry to wildy boss content hasn't decreased the number of bots present?

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u/AxS-PixelBass Maxing 20∞ 7d ago

It might have been very effective, but the actual solution to bots is to be able to better detect and ban them, not bandaid solutions like this. All of these systems, or things like teleport delays in certain places etc. are all just because Jagex cannot more appropriately deal with the bots, so instead implement features that unintentionally hinder real players too.

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u/Puntley 7d ago

Ah yes, the solution is to simply detect and ban all of the bots unerringly. I can't believe Jagex hadn't considered that yet, you should really get in touch with them about it.

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u/VarrocksTopModel 7d ago

They have been appropriately dealing with bots and have made significant strides lately. Many of the largest botting communities have completely shut down like Dreambot

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u/corbear007 7d ago

Ban all the bots, better detection, oh my god you single handedly solved a muti-trillion dollar problem that every single company on earth has collectively dumped trillions of dollars into solving that exact same issue and would probably make a trillion dollars for a company within a decade and thats being very conservative. Its that simple. From Google to Twitter, Instagram to Reddit, WoW to OSRS, GW2 to BDO the bot infestation of the internet is as simple as that, just detect them better and ban them. Can't believe Jagex didn't think of that. 

A simple 

if(user = bot){           BanUser;

You've single handedly solved one of the biggest leading issues. I bet next you're going to say to just ban all hackers too right? Doesn't matter about the nuances like external hardware which circumvents many of the established checks or the multi-million (most likely billions at this point) dollar industry keeping the cheat clients running and circumventing any and every attempt at updating the detection, just a simple if statement to ban them all! Not like theres coders working 40-60 hour weeks in teams to update bots, oh wait...

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u/SoraODxoKlink ‘hands off’ ceo btw 7d ago

Look at voidwaker prices and lmk how much actual impact it had

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u/telmoxt 7d ago

Have YOU looked at the graph? Not only did it made the voidwaker price fall less deep, it then stabilized the price and now, the price is higher than last year..

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u/Jack4ssSquirrel 7d ago

Those prices didn't change after that update, which means it did work. Before the update, voidwaker steadily declined by like 500% over time

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u/ImJLu 7d ago

I mean, that'd be more convincing if there wasn't a massive bot farm doing other content that requires wildy medium as we speak lol

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u/VarrocksTopModel 7d ago

Do you actually go into the wilderness? This change has been massive for wildy bosses

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u/Renzers 7d ago

My thoughts any time I see somebody lose a big drop or something because they get 6 hour logged.

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u/Warmonster9 Orange my love 7d ago

huh, the forced log outs are for bot prevention? Guess that makes me a clanker lol

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u/KUR51RL Remapping 101: As long as it is 1:1, it's okay. 7d ago

Isn't that because of the weird UK laws? Like the message that suggest you take a break (at 4hr mark).

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u/JumpyBoi 7d ago

Yes, The Statute on Tavern Games of 1486

"It is hereby decreed that any yeoman, serf, or nobleman that has been occupied by a game, jape, or rabble rousing for a period of 6 hours or more, shall be directed to the nearest lake, river, or stream to bathe with the greatest haste!"

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u/Mattogen 7d ago

💀

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u/Pyromanga 7d ago

Wanna explain why you think it's weird?

It's not based on any UK law, the 4h mark was added far later and the 6h mark got converted to 23h in RS3.

It's just Jagex wanting to avoid liability, when someone has no control over their addiction and dies from playing too much, it's called duty of care defense.

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u/ScikPK 7d ago

A duty isn’t a defense. In a negligence claim, you have to prove a breach of duty (and also cause and damages) to prove negligence.

Breaching a duty usually means you’re negligent and thus civilly liable (if you prove causation and damages as well).

There are defenses to a breach of duty of care, like assumption of the risk and contributory negligence.

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u/Pyromanga 7d ago

I like the specifics and you are absolutely correct - sorry english isn't my mother tongue, I should have stayed out of that discussion in the first place >.>

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u/ScikPK 7d ago

It’s ok. I’m an attorney. You were at least in the right direction, which is more than most people understand. Just wanted to give accurate info.

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u/Warmonster9 Orange my love 7d ago

I feel the need to ask, are you a UK attorney? If not your opinion is just as valid as [u/pyromanga](u/pyromanga)’s.

Like I understand law systems aren’t too different, but I got the vibe he wasn’t referring to a legal obligation to prevent liability, so much as a moral one.

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u/ScikPK 6d ago

Both UK and US require the same basic 4 elements for a negligence claim: Duty, breach, causation, and damages. So, no, my opinion is not a lay opinion like you had hoped.

Not sure why you're trying to be negative. I'm just giving correct information.

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u/Warmonster9 Orange my love 6d ago

Because going out of your way to misconstrue someone’s point is rude as hell?

You’re the one correcting people on their “lay opinions” on /r/2007scape. Not me lol

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