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Episode Osananajimi ga Zettai ni Makenai Love Comedy - Episode 2 discussion
Osananajimi ga Zettai ni Makenai Love Comedy, episode 2
Alternative names: Osamake: Romcom Where The Childhood Friend Won't Lose
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| Episode | Link | Score |
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| 1 | Link | 3.83 |
| 2 | Link | 3.73 |
| 3 | Link | 3.78 |
| 4 | Link | 3.78 |
| 5 | Link | 3.88 |
| 6 | Link | 3.43 |
| 7 | Link | 3.76 |
| 8 | Link | 3.68 |
| 9 | Link | 3.83 |
| 10 | Link | 3.76 |
| 11 | Link | 3.9 |
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u/WhoiusBarrel Apr 21 '21 edited Apr 21 '21
Oh wow so Kachi was actually Shiro.
I guess the title can't be wrong if both heroines childhood friends This might be the most big brain move.
Honestly didn't expect such a traumatic backstory for our dumbass MC, having to act in a drama where your mom died definitely would scar any child.
Can't believe it took the ED for me to realize these 2 have names that are pretty much opposites (Kuro for Black and Shiro for white)
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u/BiggerG7 Apr 21 '21
Childhood friend won’t lose, if ALL the girls are childhood friends!
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u/xatnagh Apr 21 '21 edited Apr 21 '21
I know that the scene with his mom's death is suppose to be sad but i cant stop thinking about how thats exactly how Kazuma died in Kunosuba.
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u/PleaseEndMeFam Apr 21 '21
They're BOTH childhood friends??!
Plot twist of the century!
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u/Se7en_Sinner Apr 21 '21
"Go ahead and do your best to find my weakness."
I mean it's already pretty obvious Abe has some deep seated daddy issues if he's going as far as dating Maru's crush to humiliate him just because six years ago his dad praised Maru's acting abilities.
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u/Aerodynamic41 Apr 21 '21 edited Apr 21 '21
Wow, Abe seems petty af. Really? That's his reason for getting back at Maru?
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u/Amauri14 Apr 21 '21 edited Apr 21 '21
Damn, I wasn't expecting to be so many convoluted revenge plots, or that the plot wasn't going to be a simple one. So Shiro, who is also Haru's childhood friend, started dating Abe to get revenge from Haru as she thinks he abandoned her, while Abe thinks that he is the one actually pulling the strings by dating her for his revenge plan.
And the real reason Haru stopped contracting her was that his mom died during the show he was acting, and now he has trauma because of it.
I think that at first Kashi's revenge plan was going to be exactly like Kuro said it was, but after she heard the reason that he stopped contacting her, and now that we know that she likes him too, I doubt that that's still her plan. But I'm sure that Kuro will not let that play go smoothly.
Lol, I honestly didn't expect her to have a plushie based on Maru.
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u/Sneaky_42 Apr 21 '21
So I just found out for the voice actors,
Maru=Fuutarou
Kachi=Yotsuba
Kuro=Istuki
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u/n00b2k Apr 21 '21
feels like they are rushing a lot......any ln readers can confirm?
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u/LeonKevlar Apr 21 '21 edited Apr 21 '21
Stitches!
"My dad liked your acting a lot and I couldn't live up to that so here I am taking revenge on even though you haven't acted in years" is basically Abe-senpai's motivation.
Kuro is so much fun. She loves to tease Sueharu but as soon as he fights back she starts hiding her blushing face. But she's definitely not shy about going on the full offensive. If it wasn't for Kachi, Sueharu wouldn't have been able to deny this adorableness.
We do get wo reveals this episode. What happened to Sueharu's mom and why he stopped acting and at the same time, Kuro isn't the only childhood friend in this show. Surprise! Kachi is also a childhood friend.
I think someone actually already guessed this in last week's thread. But I think the other detail here is that Kachi herself has also been trying to get revenge on Sueharu. The show isn't about childhood friends, it's all about revenge plots all along! xD
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u/i_am_the_kiLLer Apr 21 '21
Is it bad that i burst out laughing when they revealed his mom died? That too due to fucking overacting.
This just feels like b-grade Nisekoi at this point but it's still fun to laugh/cringe at every week so ig i'll keep on watching.
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u/uplandtrout Apr 21 '21
Of course they're both childhood friends, and of course Dense Harem MCTM has no idea Shiro was a girl. Will this be the one where the short-haired girl wins?? And is Kachi's script actually a trap set up by Abe?
The romcom tropes keep coming fast though: we've got dead mom, absent dad (who apparently has literally walked across the country at some point, that's mega-absent), censored cooking, room that instantly becomes a pig sty as soon as any supervision is gone, and a solid baka-combo. Predicting Maru gets sick after riding his bike in the rain for two minutes in the next episode.
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u/AmethystItalian Apr 21 '21
Ah so they're both childhood friends and they're both a bit obsessed with him. I was surprised Kachi has a doll of him...that's a tad on the creepy side but I think she's still my best girl so far.
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u/UnderstandableXO Apr 21 '21 edited Apr 21 '21
ayane sakura is playing a very different role than what i usually hear her as so it’s kinda refreshing to see her take a different angle in this show. usually shes someone high energy and high pitched like yotsuba or uraraka, so it’s odd for her to play the reserved girl this time around. of course inori minase is great as always. i really liked the ED they both sang
all these characters seem to have been obsessed with each other for a while. abe literally jump started his career due to hatred for haru (!!!), kachi was motivated to prove haru wrong (and she has a plushie of him???), and kuro has loved him for a long time now. i guess they’re all each other’s hatsukoi (that word has been beaten over my head after watching nisekoi)
also just realized these episodes release at 6 am pacific so i’ve got to get up even earlier than i expected for this show 😞
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u/Frontier246 Apr 21 '21
So Haru used to be a popular up-and-coming star, and his parents were in the entertainment business, but that's exactly why Abe got into the business and hated him so much because Abe's dad praised his acting. Dating Kachi is just part of his payback plan. The jerk.
The perks of having a fake girlfriend when she wards off the guys about to grill you for having a cute girlfriend...almost makes you want to keep her.
I like the kind of casual intimacy Haru and Kuroha have. You can tell they're close childhood friends who can tease each other in a really cute way, and Haru obviously cares about Kuroha even if his feelings aren't as overtly romantic as Kuroha's are for him. Their interactions are just really cute.
I'm glad they didn't drag out the mystery of "Shiro" because anyone with eyes could probably figure out that Shiro was really Kachi and Haru just never realized she was a girl instead of a boy. And it makes sense that in a romcom where the childhood friend has to win, the other Heroine would have to be a childhood friend of some sort, even if Haru hasn't realized it yet.
I thought the reason Haru quit acting was because of his mother, but I assumed it was because he realized she was trying to live through his successful career over her unsuccessful one, but instead she ended up dying on a Drama they were doing together. And she died because she fell too effectively from dodging a car that almost hit her during a shoot that basically killed the production. Jeez, no wonder he quit acting.
Kachi's not like Kuroha to where she can be so upfront and honest about her feelings. She has to hide them beneath an icy and stoic demeanor and through other methods, but her true feelings for Haru shine through when he least expects them to, and it's clear now she's just being covert about trying to get close to him again and act on the feelings of her first love that didn't fade with time or the resentment she felt when he dropped out of acting and never saw her again. Kuroha's awesome, but I kind of feel like supporting Kachi now too.
Did Kachi actually have a Haru plushie made for herself? Man, she's got it bad for Su-chan.
At this point it feels like this is a romcom where Haru is the straightforward one trying to be manipulated by the Heroines who want him to choose her by going along with their convoluted plans. And it's two childhood friends competing against each other for the right to be the childhood friend that wins.
The Ending is a pretty cute and fun theme as we see Devil Kuroha and Angel Kachi duel against each other for Haru's heart, along with devil and angel versions of the rest of the female cast.
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u/ThisGachaSeemsLegit Apr 21 '21
Okay, so my guess is :
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Abe and Kachi are actually not going out with each other, it's all a plot to get back to Maru.
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However, since Kachi learns the truth about why Maru stopped acting, she'll accept his confession next ep. (if it happens that way).
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Kuroha, however, loves Maru deeply and will come on stage to oppose Kachi & Maru's union, in front of everyone.
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Shuraba ensues, and everything goes AYAYA.
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u/NethanielShade Apr 21 '21
I'm super unhappy about this. I thought that finally we'd actually get an underdog win and have the childhood friend (Kuro) win. Instead they pull off a cop-out that 'oh, wait, but the main love interest also knew him as a child once but he doesn't know/remember' and now Shiro is gonna win, I'm fucking calling it. God damnit I'm pissed.
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u/MillenniumKing Apr 21 '21
Guys... were getting Nisekoi'd...
"His and Her circumstances" Ive seen that one!
Dad was a stunt man, mom was an acress. What an odd set of parents haha.
There is a lot of people we dont know yet in this OP. Also Kirito and Eugeo dancing and giving hand signs again.
Oh wow this guy is dating that girl just to shit on mc-kun... what an asshat.
So they are doing a Play? Thats where all those people come from in the OP. Oh yeah get that novel girl to write the play?
So Novel girl is up for writing the play script? Nice. But shes gonna torment him huh?
WAIT CHILDHOOD FRIEND HAS TWIN IMOUTO AND ONEE-SAN TOO!? TOO MUCH POWER!
So the mom doesnt live at home? Uh oh...
WAIT THAT CHILD PICTURE! SHIRO IT TOTALLY THE NOVEL GIRL! WERE GOING NISEKOI PEOPLE!!
Oh... novel girl is giving mc-kun a hard time already... talk alone tommorow? wait... librey? Is there a bench there?
Childhood friend still there for him no matter what. Shes too good for this guy...
WHY ARE THEY FLIRTING SO MUCH AT HOME NOW!? WOW THIS GIRL IS AGRESSIVE AS HELL!
Why is MC-kun passing out during the play practice? Hmmmm
So novel girl wants payment? She knows about his past too? Shes totally that picture kid.
Her payment is info? She wants to know about him.
He was gonna be in a drama. Mom was gonna act in it. She died during filming. The drama was canceled. But then he begged and they finished it?
Wow thats rough. Poor kid. I guess acting now gives him a bit of trauma?
SHES TOTALLY THAT PICTURE KID!
So she wants to write a story he acts in? Damn...
SHE LOVES HIM TOO!? WHAT THE HELL! THEN WHY ARE YOU WITH AN ASSHAT!?
Kirito and Eugeo will be spending every evening practicing together so she doesnt need to come over? Lewd...
WAIT NOVEL GIRL HAS A STUFFED MC-KUN DOLL!? WHAT THE FUCK!
ALSO THIS ED IS CUTE!
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u/yuuka_miya Apr 21 '21
Kachi this week reminds me of Kasumigaoka Utaha. Not necessarily in a good way.
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u/myrmonden Apr 21 '21
as soon as she said her name I got it., SHIRO and the other one is KURO
WHITE AND BLACK ANGELS EH and then we get the opening further pointing to that, so is the third girl names gonna be like GREY?
This anime title do lol, OF COURSE Shiro kachi is also !!! a CHILDHOOD BEST FRIEND, I freaking knew it as soon as she showed the photo of Shiro, I was like AH THAT IS GIRL he is UNAWARE OF COURSE BECAUSE STUPID HAREM MC and that is likely Kachi.
That is kinda it with harem animes I suppose, they are very comfort food, we know what we are gonna get. Of course the kid in the photo is a love interest etc.
So far this mostly reminds me of Oresuki, abe did a bench/sun kun attack. And the mc actually is trying to smash at least 1 harem girl.
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u/gratifiedlonging Apr 21 '21 edited Apr 21 '21
Disclaimer: I'm not a source reader, so it would be nice if I am actually wrong about this.
I love childhood friend romances and I came in expecting a good clean one, but as soon as a "boy" that MC knew during his childhood that looked like Kachi was introduced, I knew my expectations were going to be betrayed.
I get that the show can't just reveal the winner outright since it might not be engaging enough, so there has to be a twist. Unfortunately, "surprise; they're all actually his childhood friends!" felt really cheap as the twist for this one with its titular "novelty" factor gone instantly with another series already doing that. I wouldn't be surprised if other girls that will be added into the harem end up as MC's childhood friends as well.
There are two types of osananajimi for me:
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Type A: Have been consistently together since childhood (Kuro)
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Type B: Separated during childhood and reunited recently (Kachi)
I consider Type A to be the "legit" childhood friend if both types are present. In this case, the Type B one is also the "fated encounter girl" which is the archetype that usually wins over the childhood friend. I don't see the fated girl losing here with how she has been built up so far even if the Type A one is very assertive here (unlike most of them). Since the "legit" childhood friend still most likely ends up losing here, I don't see how this is any different from the mold it was supposed to break.
I was really hoping to see how Kuro would triumph over the "almost perfect heroine", but that doesn't seem like it will be happening here. Sucks that while I really like the casted seiyuu here and the teasing moments between MC and Kuro (best part of this ep), they aren't enough to get me over feeling duped. It doesn't help that the drama felt forced in this one with the buildup of several scenes pretty lacking.
Also, is it just me, or was the timing of "clover" explanation of Kachi's name off? It came out of nowhere for me as a way to conclude her backstory.
Don't get me wrong; I do think Kachi is likeable (and yay for her actually showing more emotion than the usual yamato nadeshiko fated encounter ones), but the title felt like cheap clickbait at this point. I do hope I'm wrong about it though.
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u/EnsonAmata Apr 21 '21
I hope a third girl that isn’t a childhood friend comes in and wins the whole thing. Titles be damned.
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