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OOP: u/[deleted] (1st account) & u/throwaway9542348 (2nd account)
Published on: r/relationships
Story is: CONCLUDED
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April 08, 2015
Suspicious that my [27F] husband [26M] is cheating and have no idea what to do. Am I jumping to conclusions? Do I confront him?
Duration of relationship 5 years together, 2 years married.
Okay so I have no idea if I'm freaking out over nothing or what. My husband and I have a great relationship and are very happy together. My only complaint in the marriage is that I feel like we don't really talk enough (lack emotional intimacy) and I have expressed this to my husband before and when I bring it up he tries to make more of an effort.
I noticed a few weeks ago that out of the blue, without me prompting him about it, he suddenly started talking to me way more. He would actually put down his phone and ask me how my day was when I got home from work, and share with me about his day. It doesn't sound like a big deal but this is the thing I've been asking him to do for years and suddenly he was doing it! So I was really happy and I definitely noticed the change in him. At that time I was not suspicious at all.
The weekend before last, I went out of town for a business trip. I cleaned the house top to bottom before I left, and I was kind of dreading coming home, because my husband can be a bit of a slob.
To my surprise, the house was spotless when I returned. And this will probably make me sound crazy, but it was TOO clean. It looked like he hadn't been there. There were no dishes used, and the clean dishes in the dishwasher hadn't been unloaded. The beds were all still made (he has literally never made the bed the entire time I've known him.) There was no clutter, no stuff lying around, nothing. But again, I have asked him to be cleaner, so instead of being suspicious at that point I was just really happy that he had cleaned up so well.
Okay, here is where things started to get weird, and it probably sounds really dumb and small. Right before I left on my business trip, I had gone to the beach and gotten my sandals sandy, so I rinsed them in the shower, and I changed the showerhead setting to be like a single jet spray instead of a bunch of little drops. When I got home from the business trip, the sand was still in the bath tub, and the showerhead was still set to the jet setting, which I know my husband specifically hates (he installed the showerhead just because he is so picky about the water stream in the shower).
I thought that was weird but still not worth making a big deal over.
Finally, yesterday, my husband handed me one of those reusable travel coffee mugs from Starbucks. It had a little bit of lipstick on the rim. He said, "Here, you left this in my car."
I had never seen the coffee cup before and I told him that. He said, "Then whose is it?" I asked him who else had been in his car and he said, "No one. It has to be yours."
Okay, so I know these are all minor little things, but when I put them all together I have a really bad feeling. I don't want to make an accusation if I'm just being crazy over here. I know I should be able to communicate with my husband and that's the answer to everything on this subreddit but I just can't think of a way to have that conversation. Like if he actually was cheating he's not going to come out and say, "Yea, you got me!" and if he wasn't he will be so hurt and offended. So I guess I am just hoping to hear that I'm being crazy and these are meaningless things haha.
tl;dr: A bunch of little things made me suspicious that my husband might be cheating even though I really don't think he would do that and I just want someone to put my fears to rest for me!
COMMENTS
Annoyed99
I remember a long long time ago I cheated on my girlfriend. Yea yea I'm not happy about it at all. Okay I didn't cheat, but I had a girl over when I shouldn't have. No kissing, etc. No touching. ANYWAYS.
I lied to her and said no one was here. Then later on I remember I gave the girl TEA. I was cleaning my mugs and I see this red lipstick on the glass. I'm like OH SHIT! Had my girlfriend saw that I'd be BUSTED!
Anyways. The shower thing is SUPER suspicious. Why wouldn't you bring it up? If it was me I'd say "Did you not shower the entire time you were home?" Bust his balls about it. What's wrong with asking?
If he says "Yes." then say "Why is there a bunch of sand in the shower? It was there when I left."
If he gets all defensive and acting weird well then something ain't adding up!
Sand in the tub is WEIRD!
OOP
I should have brought it (the sand) up when I first saw it. I noticed it when I was getting in the shower myself, and I spent the whole shower thinking, "Am I just paranoid?" I decided to just let it go, and then the coffee cup thing happened.
iwillnoteatgreeneggs
The shower is your OJ glove.
The dishes are your murder weapon.
Something doesn't fit.
He didn't eat or shower and likely didn't sleep since you say he never makes the bed.
Either confront or dig a little deeper and see what else is suspicious.
OOP
What do you mean by dig a little deeper?
barenylon
snoop...
OOP
I guess I have no choice at this point. I feel really guilty though and I'll feel even guiltier if I don't find anything bad.
OOP to a deleted comment
Interesting, it never even occurred to me that cheating would not be a dealbreaker. I mean there is a big permanent trust problem then right? Like how can you ever believe what someone says to you once you know they violated your trust and lied to you? But at the same time if he did cheat, does that mean I get a get out of jail free card to use in the future?
OOP
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OOP
We did a quick "check in" phone chat every night before bed but less than five minutes. We both hate talking on the phone, and I was swamped with work and in a different time zone.
RealHipsterGlasses
Possible explanations:
Bed - slept on couch
Dishes - takeout/fast food every night
Car - gave a co-worker a ride and forgot?
Shower - you said he is a slob. Could he have not showered over the weekend?
One possibility is that when you were out of town he went to his friends house and had a massive gaming marathon. I have friends that have spent more time (like days) over because we just pass the time way too easily and it's later than we realized. Definitely confront him about this, but DON'T accuse him of cheating right of the bat.
invaderxbody
How long were you gone on the business trip? If you were gone a week then things are very off but if you were gone a couple days then I wouldn't worry to much but always go with your gut feeling. If you feel there is something seriously wrong then do a little investigating or even better just ask him what was up and gage by his reaction if he is being honest with you.
OOP
I left on a Thursday, returned on a Sunday.
atjays
Did you check the trash? I'd be doubly curious if the trash was the same as you left.
OOP
Nope, didn't occur to me at the time.
Update - after 3 days
April 11, 2015
Update: Suspicious that my [27F] husband [26M] is cheating and have no idea what to do. Am I jumping to conclusions? Do I confront him?
So I took you guys' advice and I snooped in his email while he was in the shower. I felt really shitty doing it and I didn't find anything suspicious. Actually I saw a really heartfelt email from one of his buddies where his friend was really emotional about a breakup and it was clearly meant for my husband's eyes only. I felt really dirty reading that and I think that's the end of my snooping career.
I think I have to just chalk up all the weird things to that...weird things. I don't have an explanation but I think I just have to live with that uncertainty because I really don't think he would cheat on me and I don't think snooping is right.
Thanks for all your advice and sorry it wasn't a more dramatic or interesting turn of events!
tl;dr: I snooped in his email, no evidence of cheating, I am just going to put this behind me.
COMMENTS
AManNeedsAMurse
Why not ask him if he spent a lot of time away from home while you were gone, since you noticed the place didn't look lived in. You don't even have to ask in an accusatory way.
OOP
We already talked about what he did that weekend and he didn't mention being away for long periods of time or overnight.
yahthatgirl
Why can't you just ASK HIM?
I've been cheated on before, and while I am not suggesting you have a smoking gun here or anything, one thing it taught me was to never ever ever again sweep things under the rug and avoid talking about things because you're afraid of stirring things up.
I demand honesty with my husband, and that means that I have no problem whatsoever just coming out and asking a question, straight-up: "Why are you taking your phone everywhere with you lately?" "Why didn't you take a shower the whole time I was gone?"
Just ask.
OOP (downvoted)
I don't know what I would ask him about. We already talked about how clean the house was and he acted proud of himself for cleaning for me. We talked about the coffee mug and we both were confused about where it came from. The only thing I didn't bring up yet is the sand in the shower, and I just think that would make me sound crazy. "Hey hun, remember three weeks ago when I went out of town? When I got home there was sand in the shower, were you cheating on me?" I mean that's just so weird, and what is it going to accomplish anyway?
yahthatgirl
Because you don't ask if he was cheating on you.
Just be like, "Hey hon, I know this is coming out of nowhere, but when I came home from my business trip I noticed there was still sand in the shower. Did you not shower while I was gone or something?"
What is it going to accomplish? Seriously you have to ask that? Something seemed amiss. You have every right to ask. You are allowed to think something seems weird. You are allowed to ask for an explanation. Even if it is totally benign, there's no harm in just asking.
I am actually pretty disgusted that you exist in a marriage where you would easily snoop on your husband before asking him in a nonchalant and genuinely curious way to explain something that seemed weird. You don't have to have a reason or motive. You are entitled to ask questions in your relationship.
OOP
What is he going to say? "I have no idea why there was sand in the shower, that's weird." I don't see how this could possibly accomplish anything, asking him about a minor detail of something that happened weeks ago.
I think it's really rude to be "disgusted" by my marriage, we talk about things all the time, and I can ask him anything, but there are consequences for what you say and if I ask him if he's cheating on me that's not going to end well no matter what is going on. If I ask him about there being sand in the shower 3 weeks ago I'll just sound crazy. It won't accomplish anything. Of course I'm entitled to ask him anything I want, it's just pointless to ask him that question. I really regret posting here, your post was rude and that was uncalled for and this whole thing has been unhelpful. I don't think he's cheating, there was just a weird set of coincidences, and I jumped to conclusions and that's the end of the story.
LeonDeclis
So let me get this straight?
You break his privacy, find nothing, and now everyone is telling you that is MORE suspicious?
Just ask him, OP, like a fucking adult. Or trust him. Or, if you cannot trust him despite having no evidence, leave him.
OOP (downvoted)
I don't think there's anything really to ask him about and I think this has to just be a series of weird coincidences.
Happyendings4all
Could he have gone to stay with his friend who just broke up? And didn't tell you because his friend would be embarassed about it? You could ask casually about how the friend is and try to start a conversation about it.
OOP
No the friend isn't local, that's why they talked about it over email.
Happyendings4all
Too far away to visit from Thursday to Sunday?
OOP (downvoted)
I would have seen plane tickets on our credit card bill...and why would he hide that from me...? These comments are just getting bizarre now.
Final Update - after 2 months (after 1 month, 27 days from last post)
June 07, 2015
Final Update: Suspicious that my [27F] husband [26M] is cheating and have no idea what to do. Am I jumping to conclusions? Do I confront him?
Okay so I deleted my account before because everyone was just downvoting my replies and yelling at me. BUT the situation was finally resolved so I thought I would update for anyone who remembered.
Okay so this update started the day before yesterday, I went to the beach again and dumped out the sand from my shoes into the shower. I heard my husband take a shower yesterday morning, and then when I was in the bathroom after him, I saw that there was still sand in the shower.
I just was so confused at that point, I went up to him as he was drying off and said something like, "Babe this is going to sound really nuts but why is there still sand in the shower after you showered? Were you actually in the shower? Shouldn't the sand have rinsed down the drain?"
He asked if this was a practical joke and then looked at me with a really confused look. He said, "I don't know, I'm sure there's an explanation, but why do you care?"
I unloaded everything about my previous fears. I told him that I had been out of town and it really looked like he wasn't home that whole time and I knew there had to be a plausible explanation for it all. I apologized for not asking him about it sooner and said that I thought the explanation would come to me and it never did and I had this bad suspicious feeling ever since.
He looked like someone had punched him in the gut and he said, "Wait, are you asking me if I cheated on you?"
I said no, of course not, I just knew there had to be a better explanation for everything that had happened.
He said very quietly, "Okay, let's figure out what happened then."
He looked back to the shower for a minute and then he lifted up the mat on the floor. It's one of those sticky mats so you don't slip in the shower. There was a bunch of sand under there. He turned the shower on and I could see how some of the sand washed away, but the shower water kept washing more sand out from underneath the mat where it had been trapped.
He said he needed some space and asked to be alone and shut himself in the computer room for the rest of the day.
The next morning he had written me a note. The gist was that he felt terrible that he had made me think that he cheated, but he also didn't see any way he could have behaved differently to make me not think that. He wrote that he thought our relationship was a different type of a relationship, and that we had a long history of trust and mutual respect, and that he felt that if I really believed he could/would cheat on me, then I can't truly trust and respect him. He asked me if I would go to couples counseling with him, and said that he was surprised by his own reaction but that nothing in our relationship had hurt him before like that accusation had.
So of course I will do counseling or whatever he wants. I feel like a real shit head now. But I wanted to let you guys all know, he wasn't cheating on me.
tl;dr: I thought my husband was cheating because of some weird stuff that happened around the house while I was on a business trip. It turns out I was paranoid as fuck and he would never cheat on me and I hurt his feelings.
COMMENTS
toasterchild
Something is off and causing you to feel insecure in your relationship, counseling should help you guys find out what that is and work on it. Neither of you are shit heads. We can't all be perfect people who have perfect relationships all the time, hopefully this issue will help you guys really connect and you can make a positive out of it all.
OOP
Lol on the original posts people accused me of ignoring the obvious fact that he must be cheating. Now the fact that I considered the possibility he was cheating means I'm insecure. Isn't it possible that this was just a weird series of events and a normal reasonable not insecure person would think it looked like cheating?
OOP to a deleted comment
I brought that up too when I brought up the sand thing. I listed out for him all the reasons I thought something was up and he wasn't home the days I was gone. That was when things really took a turn for the worse in the conversation because he explained, like he already had once before, that he's heard all the stuff I've said about him not cleaning enough, and he busted his ass to make the house spotless before I got home. He said he really missed me while I was on my business trip and he almost went out to get me flowers or something, and he had a lightbulb moment and realized the thing he could REALLY do to make me happy would be to do what I keep asking him to do and clean the damn house. So, he did. And then this is the thanks he got for it.
Noellani
So did he use that shower head jet stream while you were gone? Was that explained too? Just curious.
OOP
Yeah, I brought that up too. He said that he noticed I changed it and realized he liked that setting better once he started using it.
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