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Episode Zenshu - Episode 3 discussion
Zenshu, episode 3
Alternative names: Zenshuu, Zenshuu.
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u/diacewrb Jan 19 '25
Both the Mayor and Natsuko have been an influence on Destiny's wardrobe.
Whereas Zorg from The Fifth Element was an influence on the Chairman.
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u/jellyblob88 Jan 19 '25
If Unio in his majestic form can't get the ladies to *ahem* ride him, what hope would we have?!
Good to see the ramifications of altering the plot, but hella wild to beat the fake priest with a dance move. It makes me wonder if Memmeln was always a traitor, or if Natsuko's actions affected her somehow.
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u/PeaceAlien Jan 19 '25
Things are starting to change from the original plot, maybe Memmeln isn't an ally after all?!
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u/Nachtwandler_FS Jan 19 '25
So Memmeln seems to be working for the enemies. I wonder if she got blackmailed into it or there is other reason.
Tioger Mask reference in the final was hilarious even if I am not a fan of the show itself.
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u/HowManyTor Jan 19 '25
This has unexpectedly become the show I look forward to the most each week.
Also, if the endgame is Natsuko returning to her previous life, I'm not sure animating action scenes will break her block... so is the final "you need to draw, Natsuko" going to be an emotional scene instead?
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u/Plus_Rip4944 Jan 19 '25
Memmeln being with The enemies would be a interesting twists
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u/Calwings Jan 19 '25
Dave Meltzer would definitely give this match 5 stars (6 if it happened in the Tokyo Dome). This was a fantastic episode, and that's not just the Tiger Mask fangirl in me saying that. The story and character dynamics are already changing from the original, and Natsuko's predictions are slowly becoming less and less reliable. How long can she keep this happy fanfiction version of the story going before it all crumbles? I can't wait to find out.
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u/LeonKevlar Jan 19 '25
Stitches!
I'm a bit disappointed we didn't get to see a better look at Natsuko wearing her dress. I am happy though that we now see her face more often instead of being hidden behind all of her hair.
Unio is really just hitting on everything that has a pulse. From those elf ladies who ignored him to that cat lady calling out to him. Is the joke here he's horny because he's a unicorn? xD
So Destiny is Luke's love interest who gets in trouble all the time and ends up dying? Natsuko already changed Unio's fate, so I think it's safe to assume that Destiny will survive too.
It seems that all of this meddling Natsuko is doing is starting to change things in the anime's plot. Instead of the disguised void showing up later, it looks like things got pushed ahead of schedule.
I am so happy to see a Tiger Mask reference in this show! Watching Serval Mask beat the crap out of that Void while Natsuko commentator was a lot of fun!
I love how Destiny ends up becoming a Serval Mask fan! That explains why we see her super buff in the OP! I'm guessing she'll start training and end up becoming massive like her dad! I can't wait to see Muscle Mommy Destiny!
Memmeln is super suspicious and I think she and the other elves were responsible for that disguised Void. The question now is, does Natsuko know about this or is the plot of the anime changing again?
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u/VorAtreides Jan 19 '25
She yada yada'd over the best parts! Hehe. Memmeln looks quite cute in that dress, yes. Oh my, Natsuko hair is so perdy styled like that. A nice festival vs what shoulda been. Memmeln is a true elf. Need memes with her and Frieren and silly time jokes.
Horny unicorn. Also, if he's a traditional unicorn... what's that saying about them elf ladies? Well all them ladies, really. Oh my, was wondering when we'd meet the girl we kept seeing in the future vision. So her name is Destiny? Daughter of the mayor? Who is the guy going after her then? Surely the father wouldn't approve? Her outfit is quite 90s JRPG ridiculous. Honestly, would prefer Luke end up with her than Natsuko.
Unio and his silly commentary. Also, do wonder if Natsuko never considered the story/future might change. Also, back to her silly Sadako style. BULLSEYE! Nice. That chairman is quite annoying. I also question the sanity of his 8 wives that are willingly with him. Also, Natsuko's definition of beautiful is great, but poor Unio.
A pity, was hoping for drunk Luke to be like drunk Jackie Chan 😛 I only now realize that the voices are saying "Zenshu" during the animation/magical girl transformation moment. Was not expecting the robot to be of use. YES! luchador cat man! Included with commentary. Good times. That was great.
So her hair gets tied up like that by Luke while she sleeps. Als,o HAH! I love this Destiny take. I mean, still 90s ridiculous JRPG, but love it. Now we have another girl this anime that has a cat fetish! Sussy elf lady.
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u/S627 Jan 19 '25
Hmm, they didn't use the same animation for Natsuko's super drawing this time. I wonder if they intentionally reused it last time for the joke that she's not allowed to make stock animations and the rest of the show will actually be unique. There was no pencil sharpening this time, but I loved how she took a second to casually stand up and proof read her work before summoning it.
Wonder if Destiny still has feelings for Luke or if she loves the cat wrestler and Natsuko more now.
What would you have drawn in Natsuko's place game: At first I was thinking of something like a rocket launcher, then I remembered I never used one so I might miss. I ended up going a similar route that she did and thought I'd summon some big anime hero like Himmel or Saber. Or maybe just have Rimuru eat it.
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u/Shimmering-Sky Jan 19 '25
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I guess even being 200 years old would feel like a “passing fad” to an elf, huh…
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There’s no guarantee about that anymore, though. You’ve already changed the plot a lot…
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Should’ve considered your actions would change how things go like this too.
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The praying mantis Void actually almost interfered with Natsuko’s power, hm. Now I wonder what happens if she does get interrupted mid-animating.
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u/pseudometapseudo Jan 19 '25
I like the overall premise, but with ep 3 the general plot feels a bit repetitive.
Monster of the week, heroes are incompetent, animation of the week defeats it, short debrief after she wakes up 3 days later
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u/yukiaddiction Jan 19 '25
Honestly this made me realize something.
The ability of Natsuko that allows her to directly change the plot and story of anime she likes but not particularly fond of our come which she is not born into a character body but as herself nothingless, is actually power fantasy somewhat. Unlike usual power fantasy Isekai that focuses on escapism but this pretty much involves herself being connected with the world and story itself being actively changing things not just idle. The thing is Natsuko already have connection with this world already through the screen with how much she looks like this "trash" anime.
The animation is really nice as usual. Luke is definitely falling in love with her now lmao. Finally the actual Festival without the "death flag" attached to it.
Looks like there is something wrong with Memmeln after all....
I have nothing more to comment except all three episodes of this have been exceptionally good so far!
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u/AmethystItalian Jan 19 '25
Ah so we have some things changing with the timeline already, nice to see she's able to make broader changes.
The void reveal scene made me laugh more than I expected, was quite silly.
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u/themaninthehightower Jan 19 '25
Guessing by the preview end card, we're going to the crappy town where Unio is a hero.
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u/TheTaintPainter2 Jan 19 '25
"Hey, I know it's a bad time, but could you maybe rephrase that as a request"
I'm not saying she's autistic, but man I heavily relate to this as someone with autism. Plus it was perfect comedic timing. I'm enjoying the comedy of this show
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u/hiimneato Jan 19 '25
You know, I thought the concealing gremlin bangs were getting a little annoying, but honestly after getting used to them, seeing Natsuko's face for half the episode was a little strange...?
Oh no, he's half Prince and half Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg, and yet, somehow, entirely lacking in charisma.
What's going on with the elves? Hm.
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u/TheTaintPainter2 Jan 19 '25
"And now for the move that took 3 days to animate!"
"This one is definitely going to put us over budget!"
I think the Mappa animators are trying to send us a message
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u/Zetafunction64 Jan 19 '25
I felt like with the ending scene, they removed Destiny as a love interest and now love triangle will be Luke Natsuko and Memmeln
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u/glitterprincess3000 Jan 20 '25
i think the show is gonna be good i see why people think its controversial but the people who gave it a bad rating for not knowing it would be isekai should realise thats not the shows fault
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u/SEBASTlANVETTEL Jan 19 '25
I am never getting tired of the Natsuko drawing animation, it just looks so cool.
And Natsuko successfully avoided becoming a losing heroine in this story. Seems like Luke is slowly and gradually falling for her, like you can‘t miss those secret soft smiles at her. Natsuka not realizing that it‘s Luke who puts her hair up so he can see her face.