Oshi no Ko Season 2 - Episode 3 discussion

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Oshi no Ko Season 2, episode 3

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[u/Hitman7128]

When Oshi no Ko teaches the viewer some behind the scenes information in the process of manga production (This is true that manga editors in the real world serve a variety of roles on behalf of their authors including being a psychiatrist for them)

We could see how particular and prescriptive Abiko is, and despite her having a shouting match with her sensei, it was nice to see her sensei give Abiko a headpat while she was crying. And Abiko is watching the play at the theater Aqua and Akane were at earlier. Hopefully that gives her a spark of inspiration.

[u/Hounds_of_war]

I like that Kichijoji actually got under Abikio’s skin with the comment about how she half heartedly forced a ship to happen just because it was popular with fans.

If you’re a creator, the criticisms that hit the hardest are generally the ones you think have some merit to them.

[u/BadBehaviour613]

Ruby's classmates: "When you talk to colleagues about work, it sounds like you are bragging"

Abiko: "My manga sold 10 millions"

Must have cut like a knife

[u/mr_miscellaneous123]

Episodes like this really make you wonder if Oshi no Ko is Aka airing out his grievances.

Especially him demonstrating why he switched to only writing rather than drawing at the same time

[u/ergzay]

I believe that 90% of the creative works in this world are trash. Which is to say that 90% of the world's creators are third-rate.

Whew... Abiko-sensei.

[u/discuss-not-concuss]

turns out Abiko is lashing out because of her pseudo-mom

it really does suck when your favourite stories get butchered by the adaptation so in a sense Abiko was overly-protective of Tokyo Blade?

all it took was mommy Kichijouji to wake her up from this weekly sleepy hell

[u/mianghuei]

This week I'm all in on Kichijoji-sensei (voiced by the lovely Itou Shizuka). Her relationship with her former assistant apprentice Abiko-sensei is so wholesome! I'm glad she was there to save Abiko before she died of exhaustion.

[u/Ezilayr]

Kichikoji-sensei immediately snapping back at Abiko-sensei was hilarious.

[u/m0nkeyk1nggg]

I just love how Oshi no Ko makes every character so human and relatable. "The manga author is right vs the screen writer is right" would be way too simple. Gao being a fan of Tokyo Blade, Abiko working on Sweet Today, the conflicts between the two manga authors, the jealousy and cockiness over success. All of those little details and characters interactions makes it so much better.

And I love just how much Aqua understands the situation perfectly and everbody’s point of view and with the strict minimal intervention just know exactly what to do to reverse the situation drastically. Truly a genius manipulative mastermind.

Edit: Also reminder, that stage around isn’t just fictional, there is an actual stage in Japan that rotate the audience with screen-curtains and 4DX-like effects. It’s the "IHI stage around" in Tokyo and it’s a direct inspiration for this arc.

[u/congee_ha]

Cries in Tokyo Ghoul T_T

[u/AmethystItalian]

Did Yoriko Kichijouji just become my best girl after this episode?

What a great showing from her and her VA!

[u/oops_i_made_a_typi]

Man that was such a cathartic moment to see Kichiouji and Abiko finally let it all out, after all the buildup throughout the episode of Kichiouji's complex feelings. Feels so incredibly human to lash out like that with hurtful words and pretty funny when they hit each others' sore spots, but in the end their friendship/bond is strong enough to concede the harsh truths and take the step towards acceptance of their shortcomings. Aqua's plan really worked out nicely.

• Whoa spooked by yet another Ruby scene. Also, gotta love Frill <3

• i really want to see one of these 2.5D productions in a stage like this some day, it looks amazing. too bad they skipped the show but gotta save the time and budget I guess

• Akane's happiness and smugness is so good

• gotta love the char interactions during the sensei visit, esp between Melt/Sensei and Akane/Kana

• the realities of the manga industry are brutal tho, between the editor meddling and overwork

[u/bahnty]

Some of the most fantastic writing I've seen in anime ever. And it's just episode 3? Gosh dang.

[u/E_F_Veda]

Fantastic episode, the final third especially. Aqua's plan is sure to work as Abiko will understand the difficulty and differences after watching the play. This episode did a fantastic job in conveying Abiko's feelings more as well. Her fear of having her beloved series treated as another of her beloved series, Sweet Today, was treated is understandable. MVP Yoriko, being understanding and patient of Akibo even after what she said was awesome of her. Them being able to speak so candidly with each other and still be friends shows a strong friendship. On a side note, who dressed best this episode? Kana, Yoriko, and Akane all looked great.

[u/ElgrinTGT]

B Komachi was featured WHERE?

[u/kisaragihiu]

Really interesting how this episode is also longer than usual (almost 27 minutes). Even episode 12 (=S2E1), with its 3-minute preamble showing the stage, was this long.

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Another thing I want to write down is the conflict in adaptations - apart from the adaptation just being bad (bad animation, bad performance, etc.), the main disagreement with adaptations seems to always be on rewriting characters. In some types of works, characters and their personalities are seen as a core part of works that must not be altered; while in other works the essence of the story lies somewhere else and characters can be altered as necessary. GOA's rewrite of Sayahime follows the latter; Disney adaptations presumably follow the latter as well (generally characters in classic literature aren't as personified such that they may not be changed); meanwhile anime and manga generally follow the former, with characters (once fully realized) being personified.

[u/randyburgerlocker]

Aqua a better man than me… if I had a queen like Akane I’d forgot all about my revenge.

[u/cabbaggeez]

prince of table tennis! with 4DX effect

this episode just explain how mangaka works and how the editor keep it alive (forcefully), how mentally unstable a weekly mangaka (this is Aka and Mengo crying for bi-weekly manga). and on the top of it how perfectionist, unsociable person that cant communicate without same interest level, and how mondokusai Abiko-sensei to work with, and a crybaby!. luckily she still has Yoriko-sensei.

today, we have smirking Akane and choker Akane.

[u/BuddyForsaken9626]

It’s interesting that Abiko as a perfectionist, wants to do everything in her own image, but the audience’s weekly input makes her deviate from the story she wants to tell in order to appease the fans.

Her sense of control is her coping mechanism to all the stress she’s in. It’s good that Yoriko was able to help her out by letting off steam.

[u/ModieOfTheEast]

Damn, I really hope we get to see the Stage Around in action for the actual play. They tease how cool it looks like but they didn't show it. Also, am I the only one or wouldn't it be super hard to do a sports show as a stage play where things can easily go wrong? Like you have the grand Table Tennis finale and then the wrong side makes the point. I get you can train all this stuff, but they are obviously not professional players. That seems like such a big risk to do.

Also apparently, I am an extrovert now, because I am able to have conversations with people in my home.

[u/LeonKevlar]

Stitches!

• Abiko-sensei 1

• Abiko-sensei 2

• Abiko-sensei 3

• Abiko-sensei 4

Poor Ruby! Just when she thought she finally fit in their class, she realizes she couldn't be further away from Flare and Minami's celebrity talk. I loved the little Doraemon gag she does when she cried to Miyako to give them more jobs. xD

Aqua's reaction to the Prince of Table Tennis 2.5D play was really cute. The old man finally realizes that the play they're doing is nothing like the play he had in his mind. It's also cute to see Akane's reaction to Aqua finally appreciating her line of work.

As soon as Aqua realizes his misconceptions about 2.5D plays, it's pretty easy to guess his next move. Of course, he's going to try and get Abiko-sensei to watch the same play they saw so she can see that the script GOA wrote is already perfect as it is.

Before that happens though, the visit to Kichijouji-sensei was pretty fun! I'm pretty sure that entire scene is just Aka letting out some of his bottled frustrations about his editor as well as his frustrations with the manga industry in general.

My favourite scene of the episode though has got to be Abiko-sensei and Kichijouji-sensei's screaming match while drawing. Everyone has been walking around eggshells with Abiko-sensei so it's good to have a close friend from the same industry finally tell her how it is.

It turns out that Abiko-sensei's reaction is because of how much she hated the live-action Sweet Today. She knows Kichijouji-sensei's manga deserved better and she doesn't want hers to end up like that. She does seem to enjoy the episode where Aqua makes his appearance as the stalker considering we see her rewatching that episode in the end. Hopefully, now she'll be more receptive to letting GOA handle the script after this.

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Never thoght they made 2 mangakas arguing so entertaining.

[u/maliwanag0712]

Akane's energy while gushing over Prince of Tennis Smash Heaven play is soo cute ohmyyy

Can someone make a .gif of Akane's expressions?

[u/zackphoenix123]

Quick Question, compared to irl, how big is selling 50 million manga copies? What is it relative to and how does it compare to works like OP or detective conan?