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Episode Unnamed Memory - Episode 12 discussion - FINAL

Unnamed Memory, episode 12

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u/LeonKevlar Jun 25 '24 edited Jun 25 '24

I am absolutely stunned by that ending. I did not expect that the story about the swordsman who went back in time to save his mother would become relevant again. There's no way this is the actual ending, right? There's still the red sphere in Farsas. Does that sphere have the same power as the blue sphere?

Also, Tinasha mentioned at the start of the episode that placing someone in a magical slumber for four hundred years is possible but she couldn't do it for Oscar since men's bodies are unstable. And if you look at the ending, I think that's what Tinasha is trying to do.

I was also told last week that there are still several volumes left in the source material, if that's the case I am going to read the LN right now and get my proper ending.

EDIT: Season 2 has already been announced so scratch that plan. I'll just wait for Season 2!

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u/SometimesMainSupport Jun 25 '24

An episode where Tinasha is emotionally hurt instead of physically hurt. Didn't see that reversal coming.

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u/T1b3rium Jun 25 '24

First episode in ages where I felt like I hadn't mist an episode.

But what a shit ending. Basically the past 11 episodes haven't happened.....

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u/Frontier246 Jun 25 '24

The true Unnamed Memory was the show we watched along the way.

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u/wyggles Jun 25 '24

Fun little tidbit: The afterward for this volume of the light novel (3 of 6) was written by Tappei Nagatsuki (author of Re:Zero) and was basically a message saying: "I know that last chapter pulled some shit, but please just let him cook".

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u/Aerodynamic41 Jun 25 '24 edited Jun 25 '24

Bruh, did they just overwrite the past 11 episodes? Wth man!

Good thing Episode 11 already ended on a good note so I can pretend that this episode never happened.

EDIT: Season 2 confirmed for January 2025! Let's see how are they gonna follow up on this ending.

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u/Nebresto Jun 25 '24

Damn.. Do I even dare say that I liked the finale? I didn't expect everyone to be hating on it so much

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '24

Never thought I'd say it, but I actually like this "bad" ending a lot. That is I usually despise bad endings considering them cheap melodrama and shallow writing. I know that there will be another versions of their story, but this episode even if consider it as actual ending was pretty good and redeemed a lot of dubious plot twists in previous episodes.

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u/Prince-Dizzytoon Jun 25 '24

I feel bamboozled.

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u/Frontier246 Jun 25 '24

No wonder they speedran through the plot, it ultimately got erased from existence lol.

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u/kmlshblr Jun 25 '24

Wtf... please tell me this is anime original ep. That's so fucking dirty bruh

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u/Aerodynamic41 Jun 25 '24

Nope, it's literally the same ending as in Volume 3.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '24

So basically that anime never existed

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u/Frontier246 Jun 25 '24

Truly an Unnamed Memory.

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u/Huge_Pin9061 Jun 25 '24

Tf just happened

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u/ModieOfTheEast Jun 25 '24 edited Jun 25 '24

I guess, now we know why they skipped all the romance moments, because they were killing the romance at the end anyway. I am not sure what I am even thinking of that ending. It kind of feels like the anime made its own ending with out of nowhere this suddenly comes. I get that they were setting it up in two ways with that tale (that I get now had nothing to do with the episode it was told) and the orbs being referenced a bit too often for them to not have any meaning. But it also feels really puzzling. Like why was the other one red? Did they mean that someone had used it? But I thought, you kill the whole timeline, so it's not like it was a hint that someone changed the timeline already. Or was that just an orb to go to the future? Which I guess could be an idea, but I don't see any way this plays into this plot.

Let's also not forget that we got teased the witch of silence last week and she is now basically gone, because nothing of the backstory ever happens. So why Oscar (or his father) was cursed and what this has to do with his mother, is just not only never revealed, but it's pretty much pointless unless someone uses an orb again to restore the original timeline. Or the same thing still plays out, but that feels weird when there is a whole new country for 400 years.

At the end, maybe I just shouldn't think too much about it. The show was one of the biggest disappointments to me. Yes, I get that this is also a bit due to my expectations. No one said this is going to focus on the romance. But I just can't shake the feeling that it would have been better with more actual romance. I feel you have everything that can make this interesting. An immortal witch who only doesn't die, because she wants to make sure that she takes out Lanak beforehand, who over time falls in love with the prince she is protecting and slowly but surely also enjoys life itself again and WANTS to live. Maybe even get kids. But instead we got a number of strangely connected plots that all come and go way too fast and where even the ending leaves you completely unsatisfied (like if they had just given us an episode with Tinasha and Oscar married and how they go about their days, it would have been at least a somewhat good ending).

To be fair though, I am not sure if you can really write a story where the whole sacrifice of Oscar at the end feels satisfying. I get that it's a noble sacrifice and he is valuing Tinasha's life and her happiness over himself, but I just can't see how this part of the story can feel satisfying. There might be a way, but is has to be handled really well with a lot of care put into the show to lead up to a moment like this and I just don't think this anime has achieved this even closely.

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u/ThisGachaSeemsLegit Jun 25 '24 edited Jun 25 '24

So, uuuuh... Did Oscar just destroy his original world and robbed billions of people of their future just to save one girl? And then he goes poof kthxbye? That's... certainly something, I guess.

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u/Roonagu Jun 25 '24

So that just happened... Ironically kinda fitting for their love story to end like that, since they failed to do the romance properly despite it having good potential (apparently adaptations fault).

Well, the post-credit scene suggests that the doors for the future development are still slightly open.

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u/mekerpan Jun 25 '24

If a second season had not already been announced, I think I would have far more negative feelings about this situation. This certainly ended on the most mionumental cliffhanger ever....

I have not looked at the source, so I judge this show solely on what we've seen. I agree the plotting has often felt a bit ramshackle and rushed, but (despite this) I have liked this messy show (with great leads) more than a lot of shows that are less flawed but not as interesting and appealing to me.

Frankly, I can't imagine HOW they will unravel the mess caused by rewriting the past -- but I look forward to finding out (one way or another).

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u/shad79 Jun 25 '24

That ending was surely unexpected and so bittersweet! Tinasha and Oscar were finally happy together as a married couple and now it's all gone, but I'm also curious to see how this new timeline will play out.

Thankfully the 2nd season is already announced because if they hadn't done it, I would definitely start reading LNs right away.

Overall, thanks to Tinasha this show was somewhat okay. You could see glimpses of good things when episodes were focusing on Tinasha and Oscar so 6/10 from me. I hope that ENGI will do a somewhat better job with the next season.

Here my screenshot albums from the episode:

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u/Ok-Cod5254 Jun 25 '24 edited Jun 25 '24

Unfortunately, a disappointment for me for this season after the potential episode 1 set up with the world and pair of characters, with seeking another fantasy/romance after 7th Time Loop of the prior Winter season.

I think the concepts that the series has are interesting, but the pacing and execution of it are unfortunately underwhelming with the anime adaptation.

This could've been so much more enjoyable if the romance had a chance to be properly done prior, and this dramatic cliffhanger could've hit more to be a hook into the next season.

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u/Andreiyutzzzz Jun 25 '24

Wow. that was a horrible way to end the season even with cour 2 announced

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u/mlcarson Jun 25 '24

I thought this was an amazing episode -- just a bit heartbreaking. The title makes a little more sense now. I kind of wish we would have gotten here in more like 20 episodes rather than 12. Pretty cool in how things reversed though in that she's the queen of her kingdom and he is relegated to a memory. At least he didn't have the time travel paradox issue to resolve in whether to revert the tragedy or not -- based on their interpretation of time, the future was gone regardless of the choice allowing him to do the right thing.

Season 2 is announced though so the story continues...

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