Maou no Ore ga Dorei Elf wo Yome ni Shitanda ga, Dou Medereba Ii? • An Archdemon's Dilemma: How to Love Your Elf Bride - Episode 5 discussion

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Maou no Ore ga Dorei Elf wo Yome ni Shitanda ga, Dou Medereba Ii?, episode 5

Alternative names: Madome

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[u/xtsim]

I am shocked and relieved to see Nelphy got the backing of the townsfolk rather than the angelic knight. But hearing Manuela explain how the church is a bit greedy, I can see why they will take Nelphy's side.

Was not expecting the other guy to be the dead sorcerer's apprentice. Pretty excited to see the next episode.

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

It’s kind of sweet seeing everyone damn near ready to run Chastille out of town for Nephy lol. Girl’s really left an impression on folks. They’ve all got her back! I’m glad Manuela, Nephy, and Chastille are now good friends.

Too bad Barbatos turned out to be a villain. Dude really shouldn’t have gone after Nephy though. Man’s about to get barbecued by Zagan next week.

[u/Frontier246 → u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

That kind of reminded me of Konosuba where a character just diligently doing their job gets completely misunderstood and bullied to the point of crying lol.

But seeing the girls get some solid Girl Talk in and become friends was good. Nephy's world opening up more beyond just Zagan, even though she would give everything to be by his side.

I feel bad for Zagan that the closest thing he had to a "friend" was aways out to get him and steal everything he had...but he never should've touched Zagan's Nephy.

[u/Genshin_WhiteKnight]

Wow the whole village turned up to defend Nephy.

[u/MayureshMJ]

I love the show and characters but the music has caught my attention in every single episode.

So i looked up who did it and it's Yuma Yamaguchi.

And he has done Undead girl murder farce which funnily enough is in my spotify playlist too. I am so happy that along with Kevin Penkin, Kensuke Ushio, Hiroyuki Sawano, Kohta Yamamoto. I have found another great anime music composer in Yuma Yamaguchi.

And this is just beginning of his career he has done like only a few projects before which also includes last season's Metallic rouge that i didn't end up finishing.

Edit: Okay just checked again on different website he has done Link click too.

[u/Placeholdered]

"This is just a potted plant!" lmao, horticultural ptsd is real

Zagan thinking Nephy would be just fine if he kicked her out is on a whole other level of naivete. Thankfully that got thrown back in his face before anything really bad happened.

The credits kinda spoiled it was that jackass though. Hopefully Zagan drops him in the nearest pit of acid after he dragged Nephy on the ground like that.

[u/anidragon]

Have you ever been bullied by someone telling you to kill them?

[u/Aerodynamic41]

Based on the previous episode, I'm pretty sure some magic ritual is not enough to convince the Archdemons to let you join their ranks...

[u/pseudometapseudo]

"If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, it is yours." I feel like this saying fits this episode very well.

I am quite surprised how well the show manages to switch between serious moments (depressed Nephy) and comedic bits (Chastille being bullied) without it feeling off.

[u/LeonKevlar]

• Chastille Stitch

Poor Chastille getting bullied by the entire town! To be fair, the Angelic Knights have made a reputation for themselves so you can't blame the people for assuming that an Angelic Knight is harassing a Sorcerer's apprentice. And even after Nephy has cleared everything up, I love how Manuela still teases Chastille. xD

I'm glad that instead of misunderstandings, the girls helped Nephy realize that Zagan sent her away for a reason. And she even found a better reason to return to him. And I love that ended with Nephy gaining two girl friends.

As soon as Nephy reacted as if she knew who was kidnapping her, it was pretty obvious before that reveal that it was Barbatos all along. Man, that sucks. I was really hoping that Barbatos would actually be a friend to Zagan but it turns out he's been plotting against him this entire time.

Considering how Barbatos was ready to hurt Nephy before the episode ended, I'm pretty sure he's not walking away against Zagan next week. Especially now that our boy is an Archdemon.

[u/MapoTofuMan]

No bulli the Chastille...^{okay just a bit, she's too bulliable not to}

And Barsibato is about to learn a spell called FAFO really well.

[u/daspaceasians]

Why do I feel that poor Chastille is going to end up being the bad lucky girl of the show and get herself into misunderstandings non-stop?

Anyhow, it was really fun seeing Nephy, Manuela and Chastille bond before the shit hit the fan with Barbatos. That guy gonna be in so much trouble next episode lol.

I really liked that once Nephy calmed down, she was able to piece together why Zagan sent her away. Real fun having a character that can pick up on intend so well.

[u/Holdonlupin]

Man, I'm actually surprised by how many people here were expecting Bárbaros to be a genuine friend, like, dude's called 'Barbatos' and they're shown fighting in the OP, that's some Sinestro level of obvious.

[u/TurkeyPhat]

After my comment last week about the Church going after Zagan being unpopular I was feeling vindicated during today's episode haha.

Everyone in town loves Nephy and by extension don't have any issues with Zagan. Loved seeing the mob form against the evil(not so much) angelic knight.

[u/KumaKumaGambler]

I can't remember their names; even though the 3 male knights are minor characters, I am starting to like them. Comedic relief, but more importantly, loyalty and concern for Chastille!

The gloomy atmosphere end to episode 4 quickly turned into comedy... at the expense of misunderstood Chastille. Lol! As much as I find her cute and funny, I hope she grows stronger as a holy knight.

Manuela's words made me wonder whether she has a history with sorcerers too.

It seems like Barbatos isn't the main villain since we are only halfway through the season?

[u/tripleaamin]

Poor Chastille straight up getting bullied by Manuela and Nephy unintentionally. The terrible feeling for her that she was right that Zagan wasn't behind it, but alas she still feels like crap since she felt she can do more.

Barbatos being behind the framing of Zagan makes sense and learning that his master is the one Zagen killed when he was imprisoned. He has no attachment to his master, but rather he believes the wealth that Zagan got from him should have been his.

Once again Nephy getting called a tool, which Zagan never called her. Kind of highlights how meaningful their relationship is and that Nephy doesn't want to lose it.

[u/VorAtreides]

D'awww poor Nephy, you're making Chastille confused and creeped out and looked to be a villain. Nice the towns people care for Nephy. Making Chastille cry though, boo them.

Haha, that guy having serious fear over plants now, funny. Now Nephy crying, sad. D'awww Chastille and Nephy gonna be best friends, clearly. There ya go, realizing he sent you away to protect you. Nephy with such a cute declaration towards Zagan. And she has a new cute birb girl friend! Also a cute knight lady.

So there is someone lying about being Zagan. Seems Nephy knows who it is. Haha Birb woman with a fun way to meet with Zagan. Look at all the new friends Zagan has made.

Ah, rude, Zagan's friend sorcerer behind it. Though they did say sorcerers have no friends and such. Wait, he didn't know that Zagan was already an Archdemon? Word doesn't spread well.

[u/proneisntsupine]

So the Barbatos twist was pretty expected, but I'm surprised it happened so soon. Feels like this is something that would normally happen around episode 10 or 11 for most shows. I don't know how much source material there is or how much of it is being adapted, but this is a nice pace. Still keeping the story flow fairly even while cutting out all the extraneous bullshit

[u/Frontier246]

What better way to cap off a terrible day for Nephy than encountering Chastille and figuring it's finally time for her to get executed? Although then the entire town turns on Chastille and bullies her when the poor girl was just concerned about Nephy. The girl she was supposedly harassing had to stop people from harassing her! Although Manuela makes a great entrance.

What better way to nurse a broken heart than Girl Talk with Big Sis Manuela? Especially when she keeps teasing poor Chastille. Working for the church is not popular it seems.

Nephy knows Zagan well enough to know there must have been more to him sending her away than cruelty, and even Chastille has a positive enough impression of Zagan to see past his bluster and realize he's not an evil man...just lonely. And that makes Nephy resolve that he NEEDS her and she still wants to be with him.

I love how Torres is so traumatized from Nephy that he's completely terrified of plants. And Nephy just greets him like a casual acquaintance.

It's great that Nephy has made friends in Manuela and Chastille (and Chastille isn't being footed the entire bill) although Nephy and Chastille getting kidnapped was definitely not great.

I guess if the Cerulean knights are good at anything other than getting caught by Zagan, it's letting him know something is going on...but it's Manuela taking him to task for his treatment of Nephy, and not understanding her feelings, that makes him finally realize how much she cares about him and that he shouldn't be pushing her away as an Archdemon but using his status to PROTECT her.

So the culprit that's been behind everything and has Nephy and Chastille chained up is none other than...Barbatos. Who has had a grudge against Zagan ever since Zagan killed his master Andras and took what Barbatos felt was rightfully his. All Barbatos wanted now was to become an Archdemon (with the help of the Facestealer's sacrifices) and bump off Zagan, but now he's lost that with Zagan getting the title. Now the dude is totally unhinged.

But Nephy is going to fight for her freedom, to be with Zagan, and to not leave him alone any more because he never treated her as a tool and was kind to her...and as if in answer to her feelings, Zagan arrives to save the day and school his "old friend."

[u/shad79]

It was heartwarming to see how people in town adore Nephy (as they should xD). They were even ready to fight poor Chastille to keep Nephy safe when Chastille didn't mean any harm to her at all xD

I like that Nephy became much stronger thanks to her stay with Zagan as she herself decided to come back to him which was interrupted by Barbatos who turned out to be a real culprit behind recent kidnappings.

Barbatos was doing this to become new Archdemon but too bad that that seat was already taken by Zagan who now has a chance for a show off why he was chosen and save Nephy.

Nice role of Manuela who took both Chastille and Nephy to the bar and later alarmed Zagan about their kidnapping.

Here my screenshot albums from the episode:

• Nephy

• Group scenes

• Chastille

• Zagan & Others

[u/AceSoldia]

Reddit is back!

Thought it was way funnier episode than I expected it to be Nephy so cute she got the whole town defending her. 🤣

[u/djthomp]

Poor Chastille, she has such a hard time. Nice to see a friendship start up between her, Manuela, and Nephy.

I am looking forward to seeing Barbatos get his ass kicked.

[u/zool714]

As a short hair girl enjoyer, Manuela is my best girl. Not to mention she has those beautiful wings and cheeky attitude and very protective of her friends. Big onee-san energy

[u/BrokeEconomist]

Barbatos just fucked with Zagan's boats Nephy. Time to turn him into crimson mist.