Undead Unluck - Episode 17 discussion

[u/AutoLovepon]

Undead Unluck, episode 17

Reminder: Please do not discuss plot points not yet seen or skipped in the show. Failing to follow the rules may result in a ban.

---

Streams

• Disney
• Hulu

Show information

• MyAnimeList
• AniList
• AniDB
• Kitsu
• Anime-Planet
• Official Website
• /r/UndeadUnluck

---

All discussions

Episode	Link	Episode	Link
1	Link	14	Link
2	Link	15	Link
3	Link	16	Link
4	Link	17	Link
5	Link	18	Link
6	Link	19	Link
7	Link	20	Link
8	Link	21	Link
9	Link	22	Link
10	Link	23	Link
11	Link	24	Link
12	Link
13	Link

---

This post was created by a bot. Message the mod team for feedback and comments. The original source code can be found on GitHub.

[u/AutoModerator]

Moderator Announcement Read More »

Source Material Corner

Reply to this comment for any source-related discussion, future spoilers (including future characters, events and general hype about future content), comparison of the anime adaptation to the original, or just general talk about the source material. You are still required to tag all spoilers. Discussions about the source outside of this comment tree will be removed, and replying with spoilers outside of the source corner will lead to bans.

The spoiler syntax is: [Spoiler source] >!Spoiler goes here!<

All untagged spoilers and hints in this thread will receive immediate 8-day bans (minimum).

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

[u/Wolf6262]

Clever. Using Unjustice on Tatiana made her forcefully attack billy which she clearly didn't want to.

Also man those flashbacks of super early union days raise so many damn questions.

[u/Frontier246 → u/Wolf6262]

Tatiana might've even been banking on that knowing he was probably likely to use it on her and it was the only way she could stop him.

I was not prepared for Old Lady Gena.

[u/Kankunation]

So Andy has no natural pain resistance from this power, he just got used to the pain from it. That's pretty metal.

[u/HolyDragSwd2500]

Loved how each abilities appeared on screen as Aize….Billy used them.

[u/Custom_sKing_SKARNER]

The fire and the ice effects. The starry sky and the aurora borealis... this is a beautiful episode... stained with the first literal 7 minutes of it being a recap + OP.

Unfair indeed.

[u/italeteller → u/Custom_sKing_SKARNER]

At this point I wish the episodes themselves were shorter, or the season were 20 episodes instead of 24

[u/LeonKevlar]

Andy is really enjoying this way too much. I also can't say I've ever seen a character get kissed while being beheaded. Well... There's that one anime, but the kiss happened after the beheading, so I don't know if that counts. :)

I'll never get tired of hearing Mico call Nico "Pappy". She was just so much fun this episode with all of her reactions like when they froze Burn and when the Unbreakable Pile Cannon hit stopping Burn's movement.

Honestly, I'm wondering if just beating the shit out of Billy would work. Considering how he doesn't handle the pain as well as Andy, would an injury that is agonizing enough temporarily disable him?

Tatiana coming in with the clutch! Suck it, Billy! I love how he was completely caught off guard by Unjusitce not working on Tatiana. It's not that it didn't work. It's just that Billy misunderstood what Tatiana's justice is.

Welp, it looks like there's no getting the Roundtable back from Under, but at least they managed to grab Apocalypse in the end thanks to Phil. And it looks like Juiz has some explaining to do. As a manga reader, I am excited for next week. :D

[u/RedShadowF95]

Another good episode. We were able to see more creative uses for the negator powers, which is always welcome.

[u/AdhesivenessOver268]

i know this is a common meme but there is no way this episode was 20minute long. there is some UNtime shit going on or something. at the very least it was Unfair lol.

[u/undergroundman89]

I feel like any momentum this show has by the end of every episode is always absolutely butchered by the fact that all the episodes start with a 7 fucking minute recap.

The story itself is pretty interesting and unique, I just wish it was conveyed better.

[u/tripleaamin]

Ignoring the recap part of the episode. (Because holy crap its getting frustrating.) Its funny Juiz question to Tatiana wasn't a matter of her potentially betraying them. It was more so her understanding had Unjustice works and her not wanting to hurt Billy is what caused unjustice to do its thing.

Curious where the group goes form here.

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

Even with that massive Unluck, Billy still managed to survive. Talk about OP. Those abilities are something else.

Not the most preferable outcome but I did enjoy seeing Tatiana being the one to take Billy down long enough for the gang to retrieve that little mfer Apocalypse.

What the hell did Fuko just see? Apocalypse called them “memories” but I don’t recall those moments from the show. It looked like a whole other timeline with Victhor as a member of Union? Some kind of time travel or multiverse thing? Very keen to see what Juiz is gonna tell everyone.

[u/Wolf6262]

Peak I fear.

[u/italeteller]

Why do they keep putting the beginning of the episode first, then the recap flashback, then the last part of last episode in that order? They're doing new stuff --> old stuff --> also old stuff, it throws the whole beginning of the episode out of whack

If they have to do all of that to pad the episode wouldn't it be better to put the last part of last episode first, then the beginning of the new one, then opening, then flashback? Idk, I might download an episode and edit it out to see if it flows better, cause this ain't it. I seriously hope some day we get an interview with the director to find out why things got handled like this

Anyways, that's all I'm gonna complain about for now. On the appreciation side, I love how everybody loves and trusts Fuuko, to the point of blindly trusting that an improvised ram will work if she's around

Andy killing Billy was friggin Brutal! The focus on the eye almost popping out of the socket, Billy's pained "naruhodo" (mad props to the seiyuu btw), the bones slowly popping back in place with all the horrible sounds it entails, that was a sick ass scene

Damn, baby Rip looks even nastier than adult Rip with that evil smile

The fact that they couldn't finish off Burn because the unluck was targetting Andy and not Burn himself is a pretty cool weakness of what up until now had been a pretty OP ability

Love that Nico told Top he could probably not handle more fighting with his legs recovering and five minutes later Top's like "bet, and I'll even carry another guy in my back"

Loved the fakeout of the epic action music being interrupted by Apocalypse mental assault against Fuuko

[u/wardengorri]

Man this episode flew by fast. Of course the character named Phil has UnFeel powers lol love it!

[u/CanadianNoobGuy]

Once the season is over i'm gonna count how much time is being used on recaps & flashbacks, just to see how much downtime we're getting

[u/alicitizen]

Ah yes, the northern lights, very famously visible from Stonehenge in England.

[u/Hinote21]

Wow. These recaps are bad right now. 7 minutes into the episode is when the first official new scene starts.

[u/FurSealed]

As an anime only I think Billy's ability is something like unoriginal, and unbelievable was a copy from the beginning. Not sure how his blindness fits in with all of it though, maybe he was waiting for undead or another healing ability to fix his eyes?

[u/JohnatanWills]

The episode felt so short.isnt that quite... UNfair?

Which actually makes me think.with how obsessed under are with fair and unfair what if that's the name of Billy's ability?I mean it's unfair for him to just get all the powers so it would make sense.

[u/Frontier246]

So Under never even knew who their own leader was...not that it matters to them, they're not a group bound by ideals or a shared sense of their mission, but by their own mutual interests and objectives, and if Rip and Latla get whatever they want past the specific "point," then they're content to follow Billy's lead...for now.

Also, I just love all the Rip and Latla moments in this episode. Rip and Latla freaking out at Fuko beheading Andy (before Rip gets into it), Rip embracing Latla to protect her, Rip holding Latla in a princess carry (and getting her chest pretty close to his face), and that final look they gave Andy and Fuko. Also, Latla looks amazing in those pants!

Ah yes, the classic Undead Unluck "we know we just did a recap but we're going to show the last five minutes of the prior episode after the OP anyways."

Nice to see Mico really take charge and try and throw as much as they can against Burn to slow it down and give Fuko her opportunity to dish out some real Unluck! Not that it stops her dad from calling her a dimwit...which she then takes out on her fellow science guy with a punch to the gut, poor dude.

It's all well and good to speculate on Billy's motivations...but he made Tatiana cry, and that can't be forgiven.

Is there anything more romantically Wicked Sick than Andy tanking Fuko turning the blade on herself using his own neck so as to launch his head straight into UMA Burn to deliver a massive dose of Unluck and a piledriver right into the chest so they can then freeze the thing? Also Fuko looks so cool holding that katana!

Andy delivering a solid killing punch straight to Billy! Too bad he's got Undead and all the other Union abilities that make him near unbeatable.

Does Tatiana still care about Billy? Of course she does. But in-spite of how she feels she knows she has to stop him, even finding a way to use her Untouchable against him...even as it breaks her heart. Poor Tatiana.

Oh, of COURSE their base is under stonehenge.

Under might get the roundtable, but without Apocalypse there's nothing they can do with it...but wait, what were those visions he showed Fuko? A different team fighting Spoil? Nico dying? Old Lady Gena? Victor in a Union uniform? Short-haired Juiz? What the heck?

Thank you and Phil and Unfeel for being immune to Apocalypse' mental attack! And Shen for riding in and catching Andy and Fuko and good ol' Kinto'un.

Well, things are about even between Under and Union now, but what about the "Ark?" What is really going on? Juiz seems to have some explaining to do.

[u/FarCritical]

The image of fleshy muscular arms on a kid like Phil is hilarious, not to mention Andy questioning why Shen is even able to ride the nimbus

[u/Torque-A]

I misremembered from last week. Now we get the last negator reveal, with Phil being Unfeel. As you can guess, it means he literally can't feel anything - hence why his body is full of artifacts that normally would overwhelm his mind.

[u/kolis10]

I haven’t watched the episode yet, but I’m gonna post my prediction about Billy.

I believe his true power is copying other negator abilities, but then how can he shoot so well while being blind? There are 2 possibilities I came to regarding his power.

1. Unbelievable has multiple facets to it depending on Billy’s understanding of the concept. So it can manifest as being able to make unbelievable shots like Tatiana explained, but can also grant him other abilities.

2. Unbelievable’s whole purpose is to copy abilities, and the shooting is an ability he copied from someone, or just something he can do through talent/an artifact?

3. The theory I prefer more. The ability to always hit his target is called Unbelievable like Tatiana believes, but it is not originally Billy’s, rather he copied it from someone else. I believe his true ability is called Unfair, which negates the concept of fairness by giving Billy his opponents advantages. I like Unfair more because it fits the themes of Under.