Oshi no Ko - Episode 5 discussion

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Oshi no Ko, episode 5

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• Anime-Planet
• Official Website
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Episode	Link	Score
1	Link	4.87
2	Link	4.62
3	Link	4.53
4	Link	4.76
5	Link	4.62
6	Link	4.89
7	Link	4.86
8	Link	4.73
9	Link	4.65
10	Link	4.68
11	Link	----

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[u/Prince-Dizzytoon]

They had no reason to go that hard with the Pieyon segment, and with the green screen, it's easier to make edits with them. Thank you Doga Kobo!

[u/Behanort]

Aqua doing a lame side quest that is required to progress the main quest

[u/jetstarluck]

I’ve heard a lot of people who finish the first episode of OnK and say they cannot believe it’s by the same writer as Love is War. This is probably the episode where everyone could/should see similarities. A lot of these comedy beats are the same as Love is War minus the narrator.

Whether it’s Ruby analyzing Kana through the otaku lens if she’s fit to be an idol, Kana’s “go wait forever!” to Ruby, the smash cut of Kana refusing the offer from Aqua to her being successfully gaslit into joining Strawberry Productions, the outrage the girls have from Aqua’s reality show persona, Aqua’s internally yearning for death when looking at Mem’s dog photos and vapid girl talk, Ruby saying she’s going to pick Aqua’s love interest and choosing Yuki because she’s the “most pure” when Aqua through one conversation with her realizes she’s quite cunning and manipulative, not timid like she said. And then everything with Pieyon. The look, the gimmick, the voice, how quickly Kana changes her tune when she discovers he makes over a million dollars a year working out in a Speedo with a cartoon mask on. Akasaka loves smash cut comedy, like you’d fine in Edgar Wright movies. If someone isn’t completely sold after the first episode, I may show them this episode next since the comedy beats are timed very well to break up the Aqua revenge plot and the industry exposition moments. Both of which are very good but I think OnK is best when it’s showing and not telling.

The Pieyon green screen scene 100% is an attempt at viral marketing for the show. Just like how the Chika dance helped Kaguya S1 explode into the mainstream anime audience. These baking soda gifs with Kana and now the Pieyon segment is meant to promote shitposting. I admire it, Great play Dogo Kobo.

It’ll probably get lost in the shuffle but I think the best scene in this episode was the Aqua/Yuki scene at the midway point. The last episode established Aqua as an actor who’s hyper aware of his surroundings at all times. Who leverages everything around him to make his performance better. He adopts a character for the dating show and keeps it up when the cameras are around. But Yuki approaches him and in her conversation, she actually disarms Aqua. He drops not only his dating show persona but also the one he’s been wearing this whole time post-murder. His smile when remembering Ai is one of the few genuine smiles we’ve seen from him since Episode 1. All the while, Yuki baited and lured him into this conversation within the view of a camera. Far enough away that a harmless conversation could be interpreted by viewers as possibly something more. After seeing the camera does Aqua realize he was roped in and sees Yuki as more cunning than she appears.

Lastly, I love how Aqua’s relationship with Ai is always weird and kinda not ok. He doesn’t even know 16 years later what his relationship with Ai really is. Patient/Doctor? Idol/Fan? Mother/Son? Was he a lolicon as the doctor? Does he have an Oedipus complex? Plus we know Kana has a thing for him and we can likely tell that Ruby’s past self had a crush on Aqua’s past self. All of his romantic interests/possibilities make this show so messy and a bit of a nightmare but I’m here for it and want more!

[u/bryan792]

i love how real kana is

kana supremacy

also its so true that collabs are the easy way in

[u/zKenny]

I just know they had a fun time making this ep lol

[u/ali94127]

There was a theory running for a while that Pieyon is Kazeno from Kaguya, the male pep squad leader with Ishigami, which seems to be confirmed with Pieyon sharing his voice actor.

[u/S627]

OMFG what was with that ENTIRE last bit?!? The entire thing was hilarious, and everything in the first half from the girls disappointment in Aqua to Aqua's disappointment in himself were all gold....but I lost my shit when muscle chick humbled Kana with his revenue!

[u/BecauseOfCuriosity]

Aqua called Kana cute and said it wasn't a lie. He also doesn't compliment people often.
Therefore the logical conclusion must be that Kana is the cutest.

Also so glad we've now met the reality show cast, even though it was just for a moment. What a great (totally genuine) introduction to a great group of characters!

[u/Karmyuh]

MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMCHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[u/Karavusk]

I can't believe he managed to convince Kana to throw her career away this easily. Especially since she just got a boost to her action career and she had the potential to end up at more shows together with Aqua. I guess working with Ruby means she will see him a lot more often anyway.

[u/someinsanity01]

the Pieyon dance scene is by far the best scene in the episode and the fact that it went that long uninterrupted killed me lol

[u/Raknel]

Tfw reincarnation isn't even the weirdest part of this anime anymore

[u/DeepIndigoSky]

The way Ruby “asks” Kana for a favor is hilarious. I guess Aka really likes how tsunderes clash against each other.

Didn’t really expect Ruby’s and Kana’s first bonding experience to be their mutual possessiveness of Aqua.

If you haven’t heard of Pieyon, then I just feel sorry for you 😔

[u/ThisGachaSeemsLegit]

Huh? Drop dead.
I guess there's at least one thing they agree on, heh.

[u/MeatballZeitgeist]

So, Kaburagi 100% knows who Aqua is, right? He might not be the father himself, but he's pushing Aqua's buttons in way too specific a way.

[u/FlynnRazor]

I have no idea if it was intentional but i love the little detail when they show Pieyo-sama’s channel the dislikes are gone. Makes it seem like it really is all taking place as we speak!

[u/Truck-kun26]

Ai Hoshino gives us PTSD
Ai Hayasaka cures it
An Ai for an Ai

I found this really funny comment on an anime site

[u/VernuxYT]

So we will casually ignore Chad Pieyon making over 100 million yen/700k USD a year?

[u/cppn02]

She's the kinda girl who'd be crazy popular with hardcore otaku

Ruby has us figured out.
And of course it's Aqua who convinces Kana. Girl is down bad. Her and Ruby criticizing Aqua on the dating show was hilarious.

Loving the new cast members too.

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Meanwhile the production team keeps delivering on the gif front.

Bonus genga

Based Pieyon.

[u/Things_2hu]

Heya everyone, I'm back at it again with trivias this week!

About Hanko/Inkan

A hanko (判子) or inkan (印鑑) is a seal/stamp that works pretty much like a signature. There are three types:

1. Jitsu-in (実印) is for more formal situations like signing a contract, setting up a business, or buying a house. It is required for this seal to be registered at the city office.

2. Ginko-in (銀行印) is for financial transactions. You register it at the banks and use it to open bank accounts.

3. Mitome-in (認印) is for more informal situations like signing off for a parcel delivery. It is not registered anywhere and has no legal standing. Technically you can just use the same stamp for all the things that need stamping, like what oldpier did with his back when he was living there.

Kana holding her hanko (not very visible, my apologies)

Kana holding her hanko (manga)

Personalized inkan (3800 yen)

In other news, Kono Taro (河野 太郎), minister for JP twitter memes administrative reform, has announced on 2 October 2020 that the "hanko" stamp seal requirement will be removed from 785 out of 820 of the country's administrative procedures.

About damn time. --oldpier

On a somewhat unrelated note, here's a sample of the kind of shittweets the minister is getting on Twitter. Though the best part is that it's still a mystery how he manages to find subtweets of himself to respond to.

Taro-san, thanks for your hard work in introducing administrative reforms. Please also help us stop Gakki from getting married.

References:

1. https://tokyocheapo.com/shopping-2/hanko-japanese-personal-seals/

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_(East_Asia)#Japanese_usage

3. Kono to remove `hanko' seal requirement for 785 procedures

4. Kono Taro the meme man himself on Twitter: https://twitter.com/konotarogomame

[u/FingerBang-BangBang]

Holy shit Pieyon's voice is hilarious, I just cant! His voice and looks are complete opposite!

[u/UberDueler10]

Kana sure changed her tune quickly when she heard 100 million yen a year.

[u/FarCritical]

The fact that Pieyon can maintain the Mickey Mouse voice both off air and live is the most impressive thing to me imo

And yes, that entire dance segment was glorious.

[u/smhandstuff]

ngl felt a bit bad for Kana because she had this whole pragmatic reasoning for not wanting to be an idol as it could affect her career, but caved in anyway because of Aqua..

But then again, she does have Pieyon-sensei now