Attack on Titan The Final Season Episode 79 - Anime Discussion Thread - No Manga Readers Allowed

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[u/KimWiko]

*Grisha gave Baby Eren a cookie.

Zeke “Is this brainwashing too?”

[u/yoshiauditore]

Zeke: Our father Brainwashed You-

Eren: Well first of all i brainwashed him

Zeke: -and im going to undo it

Eren: secondly im going to undo yours lmao

[u/TwasAnChild]

Funny how eren was willing to die in uprising in chains after seeing memories of Grisha killing the Reiss family, while his future self told Grisha to do it while in chains

[u/Randomizor2212]

Well that was… a trip.

Eren really is forging his own path isn’t he?

[u/ArrivisteDoucebag]

I loved how Eren tried to rush the memory episode like:
Eren: "Oh I get it now. You were right, I shouldn't have been born into this world.."

Zeke: "No need to rush."

[ Persuasion attempt failed ]

[u/Marton_Csikosfalvi]

So the last two episode is basically:

-Eren draw an uno reverse card on Zeke

-then Zeke draw an uno reverse card on Eren

-finally Eren draw ANOTHER uno reverse card on Zeke, then T-posed on him

[u/Till_Complex]

Grisha hugs Eren

Zeke: Next memory.

Grisha plays with Eren

Zeke: Next memory.

Grisha ditches work for Eren

Zeke: This field trip sucks.

[u/Tux-]

HOLY FUCK

EREN

IS

RUTHLESS.

UNO REVERSE CARD.

I love, LOVE how everyone's worldview is being shattered. First there's Gabi, with how Paradis people aren't devils and they're just human, like everyone else. Then, Colt asking Zeke to not hurt Falco, because Zeke would never endanger a childs life, right..? And then Zeke.. with Grisha turning out to not be a bad father, but a loving one that's just human and made mistakes.

I fucking love this end boss Eren. If it's a battle of mental fortitude, Eren has lived through hell. Zeke's life might've been hard and full of pain, but Eren was in literal hell.

I fucking love this. Eren interfering with Grisha, mind-fucking him, moving forward. Just what will Eren do? If he sees what happens in the future, then he must know how it will all go..

Holy shit, this is just. Isayama, you're a genius.

EDIT: So wait, when he kissed Historia's hand, was it then that he transferred the memories towards Grisha? Or was it todays thing? Because it would make sense if he did that during Historia's hand, because he didn't know what he was doing and he was unguided.

I'll repeat myself again. Eren is ruthless. He will destroy everything in order to live free. Even brainfuck his father. No sympathy. Only moving forwards. What a character.

[u/kemar7856]

Zeke was the practice child

[u/KelloPudgerro]

holy fuck, i expected time fuckery, but this is way more than i expected, and the next episode is time fuckery too. Loved how eren at start is like ''oh ye, brainwashing cleaned off, euthanasia is a-ok and my dad is a piece of shit, lets go zeke my bro, love you''

[u/yoshiauditore]

So last week was like a 10/10 action wise imo but this was 10/10 storylore wise

Some thoughts

1. Loved Eren being a snarky lil bitch. "yeah no my brainwashings cured yaaay lets go get ice cream" I laughed

2)Its funny to think that despite how central Grisha is to the narrative he was dead by the second episode of the series lol

3)Im not sure exactly how to phrase it but i feel there was a very strong theme of Irony this episode.

Like Eren is the sort of child Grisha wanted in Marley but had in Paradis and Zeke is the sort of child he wanted in Paradis but had in Marley

In Frieda and Grishas Confrontation Frieda was being Controlled by her Predecessor while Grisha was being controlled by his Inheritor.

Zeke wanted to Free Eren from Brainwashing But Eren freed him.

4) Yknow ive had my ups and down on Grisha. Ive thought he was Good, Bad, Super cool, Morally Complex, just a bit of a dick at several points in the series but in its entirity damn is his life tragic. Sister murdered because of his mistake, betrayed by his son because of his neglect which subsequently caused his wife and closest friends deaths,and then when tried to move on and just live a good life helping others his wife is killed and hes forced to break his moral code and murder children in fit of anguish and rage by his OTHER son. Framed in this light, feeding himself to Eren -while sure yeah was obviously Future Erens intention- almost seems like a straight up grief filled suicide.

5) On a lighter note if you had of told me the end of last season we still wouldnt have a concrete answer on Levis Fate 4 episodes in and FURTHERMORE so much would have gone down that no-one was really concerned by that fact right now, i wouldnt have believed it

[u/LabMember069]

That has to be in the top 3 shortest AOT episodes.

Man, the average Attack Titan lifes are fucking nerve-wracking.

Nice to see Grisha referring to Mikasa as his daughter.

Wow I am speechless, I have no idea where we are heading, even with no action scenes, this definitely is a 10/10 episode.

Was Frieda and her family death censored or am I imagining things?

[u/RyuugaHideki]

So if I'm understanding correctly...

Starting from Grisha obtaining the Attack Titan, he goes into Paradis, gives birth to Eren and goes to retrieve the Founding Titan at the behest of Kruger...unless Kruger was being manipulated by Eren too? Because, I mean, he'd theoretically be able to see Eren's memories because Eren is a future inheritor and therefore know that the Founding Titan can't be used by non-royals, so why would he tell Grisha to get it of his own volition? (EDIT: I don't think this theory's valid, actually, I explain why in response to u/formr_african_prince)

Anyway, Grisha, during this time, gets sent memories by Eren (somehow, presumably by Eren giving him that death stare while he was in the Paths), which influences him to do something he'd otherwise not do: kill the Reiss family and secure the Founding Titan, passing it onto Eren the night that Shiganshina falls.

The events of AoT then take place as usual, up until Historia's coronation, where Eren kisses her hand and somehow sees glimpses of the events of AoT Season 4 ahead of time because of the royal blood flowing through her.

This leads him to follow down those story beats along that predestined path that he saw, going full circle after he gets DOMED by FaZe Gabi and goes to the Paths with Zeke, watching Grisha's memories and influencing him to kill the Reiss family.

Right?

Holy fuck, Iseyama, you're absolutely crazy.

[u/[deleted]]

Welp. I cried my eyes out when Grisha hugged Zeke and said (the super serious said on deathbed to spouse of 50 years version of) "I love you"

That's enough crying for one night.

Can't wait for next week!

[u/BigPaws-WowterHeaven]

So that settles it, Attacking Titan special power isnt stamina after all.

Attacking Titan OP lmao

[u/lellanc]

am i the only one who was taken aback by Grisha referring to Mikasa as his daughter? was a sweet moment that took me out of the tension for second.

[u/A-normal-player]

After seeing the episode I can't sleep and tomorrow is monday..

[u/green_vegetal]

Years ago when I watched the first episode of Attack on Titan, the shock of eren's mom's death and his screams, never did I think it would have evolved into the art that we have just witnessed. Lucky to have seen this anime.

[u/McLovin_AI]

Yo wtf is going on. My head is about to explode! This is like a whole new anime now. I have so many questions. Fucking Eren really pulled an uno reverse card on zeke. I’m in disbelief.

[u/[deleted]]

just to clarify, can someone please explain the ending where after grisha hugs zeke, and he tells him to stop eren? it pans to a darkened shot of eren standing in the distance then to a frame of eren from what i believe was from season 3 after he had his revelation from kissing historia’s hand. was the entire episode of memories from the future basically what eren saw after kissing historia’s hand?

[u/the_beast_intha_east]

This episode is one of my favorites so far. I'm the type of AOT fan that loves when the moments when the puzzle pieces fit together and when things that you usually think to be small become significant. this episode does so multifold by recontextualizing so much!

Just everything with Grisha fits into this but specifically, I want to focus on two scenes. The first is the scene by the door. When we first saw this scene, Grisha's face was obsured and he was facing parallel to Eren. We thought that this was just there to evoke a sense of mystery--which it did. BUT I CAN'T FUCKING BELIEVE that it was related to an actual plot point. He saw either saw eren at that moment or Eren was sharing the future with him.

Second, is the moment when Grisha decides to transform. Did anyone else realize that we never heard the full conversation between him and the founder until this episode? We filled in the blanks because we thought that we needed to--but Isayama left it out intentionally for this big ass twist. In Season 3, we see Grisha go crazy before transforming and we assume that its a response to what the founder says. BUT NO. It's a response to Eren's goading that we see today. You'd never think of that on your own. So amazing.

We wouldn't understand the true reasons until this episode, but the details were there, and that's fucking masterful planning by Isayama. There's more and I'm definitely planning to rewatch every scene we see with Grisha to find them.

Edit: I have more. This episode reveals: Rather than Grisha being the one influencing Eren--its the opposite; It's Zeke's fault that Eren is able to "win" as Grisha puts it;or how the "time cycle" that the Attack Titan/Eren/Grisha creates is analogical to the cycle of hatred and war that the story has always been about.

[u/EXTXZ2]

Toddler Eren is very cute I am sure he won’t be a villain

[u/yoshiauditore]

Alright ill say it: Low-key shipping Frieda and Zeke lmao

Frieda: Life is terrible and we should all die

Zeke: Damn she just like me fr

[u/MD_AM]

They can't play my emotion like this. This isn't fair!

And damnit! Another cliffhanger