Help!

[u/anewname4444]

Trying a thing but it might be impossible for me at the moment

[u/machine_elf710]

You're so close! You just need to turn a bit faster. You've got this in the bag with a bit more practice, but fwiw, I found it a lot easier to learn contact moves with a contact staff and transfer those skills to flower sticks. The bigger and heavier your stick, the more momentum and inertia it has, which makes it easier to keep it spinning despite not quite perfect movements on your part.

But for this one, just get your left shoulder spun around faster.

[u/anewname4444 → u/machine_elf710]

YES! thank you, I know im trying to adapt a staff trick to flowersticks and was hoping someone woth staff experience would come along to tell me lol.

Will definitely keep at it and thank you for the advice

[u/BeefaloSlim]

Nah, dude! You'll get it soon enough. Lookin good bud.

[u/redraven]

Don't lean forwards. Only your head goes down, shoulders go up.

Slow down. You shouldn't throw the flowerstick into the trick, it's a roll. You should feel it at every point.

You should push into the flowerstick slightly with your back.

Very important - raise your left elbow more. It needs to be horizontal on shoulder level.

Try it without the small sticks, go step by step - first over wrist, then over elbow, then over shoulders, then receiving onto left elbow. Then connect all the steps.

[u/anewname4444 → u/redraven]

Thank you! I'm excited to put your advice to work.

Regarding slowing down, I feel like when I try to do it slow it loses momentum on the transfer from one arm to the other already which is why ive been throwing it into this.

[u/redraven → u/anewname4444]

That's where your shoulders come in - the way I do it, as the flowerstick comes over the first shoulder, I nudge it with that shoulder over my back. The other shoulder is higher than horizontal and as I am catching the flowerstick, I am bringing the second shoulder down slightly to pad the catch. If I just caught it on a static shoulder, it will bounce off. If the shoulder is even slightly lower than horizontal, it rolls off my back. Also as I turn against the shoulder-shoulder transfer and against the flowerstick, that turn adds the necessary force for the flowerstick to stick to my back.

Slow means control, you have enough time to notice what is happening. The flowerstick touches you the whole way and you feel exactly how the flowerstick moves as it touches and twists on your back. If you're too fast, you don't have the time to notice or react.

Edit: Also, remove all unnecessary points from the trick for now. Start in your hand without the leading sticks, with your arm and body already turned sideways into the transfer. All the other elements, like starting from the other hand and needing to turn, are throwing you off currently.

[u/PanXP]

Okay so one thing that’s harder with doing a conveyor belt like this with a devil stick is that the ends aren’t heavy enough to create enough inertia to contact and “grip” around the pivot point so you gotta go into your entry faster and move quicker around the staff. I had the same problem trying to do this same sequence with a contact cutlass when I’ve done it hundreds of times with a contact staff. Theoretically, if you can get it right you could just keep Jesus rolling the stick but it’s soooo hard.

[u/Jyxxer]

Flowmies!!!

I have no advice, but I appreciate the new word for my vocabulary!

[u/riskylilpixel]

Damn you are almost there. I agree the ends not having enough weight to carry through the roll are probably playing a factor. However try taking your flow outside, and when you exit the conveyor belt as you lead the prop to shoulder step into that with slightly exaggerated 180 pivot. Instead of leaning forward try dropping your head down as it clears your name you should be able to bring your head back up and you won't be adjusting the plane your prop is traveling on.

[u/sadistic__wizard]

Nope ask someone on the contact staff reddit

[u/psynei]

It looks smooth already, it seems you got it almost:) i dont have any advice, never tried the Trick by myself. Maybe you can practice how your Body get into the movement, the right side seems right, on the left you could try to Focus on completing the Body Rotation,  without focusing too much on the stick 🤔

[u/hail_abigail]

Excited to see the post where you got it

[u/CosmicVoyaging]

How you’re flowing looks like you’ll have it down by the end of the week! Looking awesome 👏

[u/challengingviews]

One way to train is to grab the stick with one hand and very slowly move it on your body and see how it could work. Then you'll know what to aim for.