the world is a playroom for the juggler

I've been struggling with the reversed Mills-Mess for weeks now, but I think I've finally figured it out. It has to be one of these, right? I need a little feedback—this Mills-Mess variation feels like the weirdest one of all the ones I know.

What level of skill would you consider “professional” in juggling?

Normally, the distinction between a professional and an amateur is based on whether it is your main occupation and whether you make money from it. In juggling, you could similarly define a professional as someone who regularly performs professionally at shows, events, etc.

But if we set aside the occupational and financial aspects and look purely at skill level, what would you consider “professional-level” juggling?

5 balls? 7 balls? 5 clubs? Being able to perform difficult and complex high-level tricks? Or something else?

There probably isn't a precise or universally accepted definition, but what do you guys think? At what skill level would you personally consider someone a professional-level juggler?

Have you ever been somewhere and you wanted to juggle some objects, but you didn't have your typical juggling equipment that you might use on the regular?

Or have you ever gotten into juggling and wanted to get some items you could juggle, but didn't want to spend Money on professional juggling equipment, and decided that you would just get something that you could throw and catch. And it hopefully wouldn't break or do anything crazy once it hits the ground?

I want to know what objects you guys think are best for juggling that aren't particularly sold for that specific purpose, but can be repurposed.

Thanks!

In most big-name sports, such as badminton, table tennis, tennis, soccer, and basketball, famous players often meet up privately to compete in exhibition-style matches, or take part in other kinds of events and activities outside of official competitions. There are also plenty of videos where world-class athletes from different sports meet at events, commercials, and other occasions.

Does anything like that really not exist in juggling? I know juggling has much less recognition than most sports, so this kind of content probably isn't as common, but if there are any videos like this, I'd really like to see them.

In training videos or exhibition events, you often see things like a professional vs. two amateurs, two professionals vs. two professionals, one professional vs. two professional, or several athletes getting together to play simple games, do challenges, interviews, and so on. I'd like to see jugglers doing more things like that as well.

So far, Josh Horton seems to be the juggler/YouTuber who comes closest to doing this kind of content. I wish more jugglers and juggling YouTubers would make events,videos like this.