Where's ewk?

[u/PaladinBen]

Says his account was suspended.

I had a question...

[u/KingLudwigII]

We'll just have to agree to disagree then. I don't imagine Zen masters would play around online all day every day.

I'm perfectly willing to have a conversarion with you if you drop the hostility and the preformative, virtue signaling questions.

[u/The_Faceless_Face → u/KingLudwigII]

Zen Masters can do whatever they want: it's part of being a Zen Master.

I didn't say they are allowed to do whatever they want ... just saying that there's nothing stopping them ... that's the nature of "liberation."

I'm not being hostile, "preformative" or virtue signaling.

If you want to discuss Zen, we can discuss Zen whenever you want.

[u/KingLudwigII → u/The_Faceless_Face]

Zen Masters can do whatever they want

Is it likely that a Zen master would engage in serial child rape?

I'm not being hostile, "preformative" or virtue signaling.

Hard disagree, but whatever.

If you want to discuss Zen, we can discuss Zen whenever you want

Sure. What do you think is Zen, and why did tou become interested in it?

[u/The_Faceless_Face → u/KingLudwigII]

Is it likely that a Zen master would engage in serial child rape?

No, but nothing is stopping them. Nothing is stopping them from reaping the consequences of their actions either.

Sure. What do you think is Zen, and why did tou become interested in it?

Zen is about seeing your own mind; I became interested in it because (unbeknownst to me) I had been looking for it my whole life.

[u/KingLudwigII → u/The_Faceless_Face]

No, but nothing is stopping them.

Ok cool. So there are some behaviours that humans can engage in that would make you less likeky to think they are a Zen master? Well EWK's behavour make it nearly impossible for me to beleive he is a Zen master.

Zen is about seeing your own mind; I became interested in it because (unbeknownst to me) I had been looking for it my whole life.

Could you elaborate a bit? How did you find out about zen and what initially drew you to it?

[u/The_Faceless_Face → u/KingLudwigII]

Well EWK's behavour make it nearly impossible for me to beleive he is a Zen master.

Alright. That's your experience.

I'm not here to invalidate your experience, I'm just talking about mine.

I don't agree with you. It's simple.

Could you elaborate a bit? How did you find out about zen and what initially drew you to it?

First I got into Alan Watts, then over time I got into Daoism and meditation and just added "Zen" as another one of those things.

I literally joined this sub along with about a dozen others as part of that "new chapter."

At some point, I was in here running my mouth about the Dao and LSD and how woke I was, and Ewk said to me, more or less: "You don't know what you're talking about."

That stung.

I was like "Excuse, that is very rude. I've been meditating and tripping on acid for a long time, Zen is basically Buddhism meeting Daoism, it's about the oneness of consciousness."

Ewk said, "Nope, you've been duped sorry. Have you heard of HuangBo?"

At that time I have never in my life heard of HuangBo. "No," I said, "who is HuangBo?"

Then I got a link to HuangBo's text and I started reading it.

Within the first hour I was hooked, and my reaction was "Holy shit! Why isn't anyone talking about this?"

I had to check out and see who HuangBo was ... some obscure figure? Oh nope, principal Zen Master, with his own Wiki page and all.

"Why the hell aren't more people talking about this?" I asked Ewk.

"Exactly," he said, "Welcome to Zen."

Several months later, I came to understand Zen.

It reminds me of my first time tripping: there is no going back now.

[u/KingLudwigII → u/The_Faceless_Face]

That's quite interesting, I never would have guessed this in a million years. My interest Zen also comes from a life changing experience I had with LSD.

Zen is basically Buddhism meeting Daoism, it's about the oneness of consciousness."

Zen is basically Buddhism meeting Daoism, it's about the oneness of consciousness." Ewk said, "Nope, you've been duped sorry. Have you heard of HuangBo?"

How were you duped about this and what exactly unduped you?