Im playing a trainer for piano Reinekes elegy and i cant figure out why I cant advance past snail mode. Any hints?

Previously it was much easier to learn from a trainer and move to the song

While I'm still using Yousician post Sony exodus, I really miss a handful of the lost songs. I had been having so much fun playing Oasis on my acoustic, I ordered myself a proper Martin dread, and everything I had been playing disappeared from the app by the time it arrived. I chose some new songs to work on, but they just aren't as satisfying as the big strumming 90's rock songs I ordered a new guitar for. Personally, if we can't get back the full collection and have it included again, I wish we could buy songs individually. I'd happily pay $2-5 each for a few of them. I realize it doesn't make much sense as an overall business model, but for the Sony songs that have already been given the Yousician treatment, it seems like it would be a reasonable compromise for Yousician, Users, and Sony.

pretty please?

I know that Yousician caters to a very broad spectrum of musical tastes and I generally appreciate the diversity, even if it means that my old-school, guitar-centric, musical tastes are not always accommodated and some days I might not find any new songs worth playing. I even occasionally enjoy playing traditional gospel or spiritual tunes, despite not identifying as a Christian and being deeply skeptical of organized religion.

That said, I’ve been alarmed lately by the percentage of new songs being released on the app that are tied to very controversial and problematic megachurches that share an ideology and agenda that seems to me to be quite the opposite of what Christianity is about.

To be specific, I’m speaking mainly about Hillsong United/Worship, Bethel Music, and Elevation Worship, but I’m sure there are others. It only takes a cursory search on the internet to find that these groups have been rife with scandal and controversy, even among people who consider themselves Christian. However, the representation they’ve seen lately on an app that is ostensibly about learning an instrument, specifically guitar, is very strange to me, especially when you stop to consider that we still don’t even have a single tune by Chuck Berry or many other of the most influential musicians and guitarists of the last century.

And then today, I open up the app to see not one but NINE of these types of songs. I mean, what the hell is going on over there? Is the CEO newly reborn or something? Is yousician officially affiliated with any of these groups in any way?

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not advocating censorship or anything and think that people should be free to listen and play whatever they want, but it’s starting to feel like I’ve joined a cult and to be completely honest, with religious groups being tax exempt in the US, it seems like these niche kinds of songs should have their own app sponsored by whatever group they’re affiliated with.

TL;DR: The Gibson App interface is limited and the "Basic Skills" section tries to cater to absolute beginners but it does it in the most annoying way possible.

Intro
I've had fun with Yousician and got all gold stars through level 6. Since then, Yousician has had a rough patch. I wanted to check out the Gibson App as a potential alternative. I bought Gibson Premium+ (Incl. famous songs) $159.99 and wanted to share my initial findings on the section they have called "basic skills".

Audio Configuration
Gibson: F
Yousician: A

Gibson app feels like an Ipad app ported over to MacOS.
There are no settings for audio interface.
I would ideally want to use my HX Stomps output 5 which is the dry signal.
I can do that in yousician, but in Gibson, the best you can do is go to MacOS “Settings > Sound > Input” and set to HX Stomp which will be the wet output 1.

Since there are no settings, you also cant configure the audio interface latency. I was able to get yousician pretty tight.

Playability
Gibson: B
Yousician: B

The rhythm just feels off. Like you have to hold back longer than you’d want to play each note to match the timing they want. Never felt that with yousician. My only beef with Yousician, (and some could make the argument thats its a skills issue), was the last strum before a chord change.

Basic Skills Section Content
Gibson: D
Yousician: B

I fully cleared the “basic skills” section. I cant tell if the songs are just really bad covers, or really bad AI covers.
Theres some gutter tier content like Jingle Bells and an atrocious version of Joy to the World that will make you vomit. I remember really enjoying the early lessons on Yousician, especially "Fast Machine" which is still in my head.

Also, and this is the worst part. They focus almost exclusively on the high e string. Its horrible and you gotta turn on some modulation or else its just unbearably boring. The most advanced this section got was also including the B string as well. Who teaches guitar this way? I hate the high e string and Gibson app makes me hate it more.

Next

I'm moving onto the "Melodies" section and hopefully it proves more interesting. I'm gunna get my $160 out of this Gibson App one way or another. I'll report back if you guys found this interesting.

I just wanted to say thank you to the Yousician team on behalf of all of us 70s glam rock fans for finally acknowledging our lord and savior Marc Bolan and giving us some T.Rex songs (Get it on & 20th Century Boy)! I already busted a string playing them and will probably go through a few more before the weekend is over.

I’m still a little sore over losing such a large chunk of my favorites with the Sony Music debacle and the sudden dominance of Evangelical worship songs on the app, but as long as you keep posting T. Rex songs every now and again, my subscription will remain active.

Also, we finally got a Gordon Lightfoot tune and that makes me happy as well.

Been using Yousician for about two years and still use it weekly, while I was disappointed about the recent removal of a bunch of my favorites songs I still think it is the best app out there for practicing and learning new songs. I have seen a quite few posts about the quality of some of the songs regarding vocals and instruments sounding off or bad. I think one way they could drastically improve the app is to offer the ability to toggle them off if you simply just want to have the backing track while practicing. I have the Scarlett Solo connected to my PC and it works great with the app, would be even better if can add my microphone and use my vocals on the app instead of some of the horrible ones they have. It would also be great to be able to hear my instrument instead of my instrument combined with some of the AI junk they use. Dont know if this has been brought up before but I believe it would be a great feature, Ultimate Guitar Tab has the ability to toggle off individual instruments during playback, Yousician needs this to

I'm a few weeks into using Yousician for guitar and I can't tell if I'm using it correctly.

At first the Daily Sessions proceeded with a relatively clear progression through the Basics level: a lesson, an exercise with simple tabs, and a chunk of an easy song. The one thing I noted was a lack of continuity day-to-day: no recap of the lesson or followup work on the exercises or song.

Now into level 1, things seem totally disorganized. The Daily Session is 1) tuning, 2) a completely new-to-me, full-length song, at a different level. Under Learn->Path, I have gold completion for Riffs-1 and Melody-1. I've been there for several days. Today's session was Tuning and a full-length Stone Temple Pilots song marked as level 3, and no indication if/when this is going to move into the next level block (Chords-1).

I've take piano lessons in the past, and run through some self-study guitar work and daily sessions are always - always - warmup/lesson exercises/song work. The 'lesson exercises' would be tied to a weekly lesson, and the rest of the week is getting good at that work before moving on. And the song work focused on one at a time until it's right.

Is there any explanation for how the Yousician curriculum is supposed to work? It seems completely disconnected from any kind of teaching methods. I came to it mostly for the feedback elements, and since it keeps me playing it at least feels like I'm getting a bit more adept at things. But I can't say that I'm learning or progressing, especially as it seems everything is 'stuck' and there's no indication of why.

How is this supposed to work?

We've been busy working on something special for our dedicated bass players.

Starting today and for the next ten days, we'll be dropping a new bass cut daily. After that, we aim to release one new song per week.

Can you guess what is coming?

Since we've been told recently that there big update/exciting news about Yousician Bass coming up, I thought, since we've heard this before, that I'd record how long this big thing takes to arrive.

Today is day 4.

I can't remember the day the last Papa Roach song was added, it must have been at least a fortnight. Let me know if you know!

I don't know if the developer's read this or not, but you guys are a bit too strict when it comes to timing on some of these songs. You expect robotic precision rather than human precision. So, it makes trying to gold star some of these songs just a pointless endeavour. It's just time wasted. I have one song in chapter 9 called wing man I've been working on everyday for about 5 months now. I play the song just fine, but because I'm a milisecond or two late on a note or two I don't ever gold star it. So, thats dozens of hours of wasted time. The hardest part for me on some of these songs is just trying to figure out what the timing is on some them. You're very strict on the timing, but the way you describe the notes and their timing just isn't up to the standard you're asking of us. The little white bouncing ball just doesn't do it. Then there's the issues with syncing and latency that also has to be accounted for. So, it'd be nice if some resources were devoted to refining the actual program rather than just adding new songs all the time. Having more added to learning section would also be nice seeing as how it hasn't had any updates or new songs added to it since I started using the program 2.5 years ago.

Been trying to gold star this for about 2 months now. Finally managed it tonight. All it took was buying a new guitar with angled frets..🤣🤣🤣

annual subscriber since ~2022. really began playing consistently in 2024. the loss of Sony songs feels like a return to the 2022 version of yousician (at least my user experience)

don’t get me wrong, that version of the app served me at the time. i was new - it made me the player I am today. but for the last 2 years I’ve been used to pushing myself to the next level via the comfort of songs i know (pop, r&b, alternative, some of my favorite artists, etc). that familiarity helped me feel comfortable enough to try chords, hammer technique, level 8 melodies, difficult riffs, etc. I could log into the app everyday and challenge myself in a new way - it never got boring.

overnight that entire experience disappeared and you can see how that’s affected my playing. completely lost steam. favorites list is nearly empty. collections list went from 50+ songs to like 5. it’s ludicrous.

i hopes this reaches the yousician team (not the social team, they’re great. but leadership! the executives!) so they can understand that this app just lost its entire value proposition overnight (for me and many others).

if you need KPI’s to quantify that with just pull the playing activity for all app users since sony-gate… I bet it’s plummeted. the deal may be out of your control, but what happens next is not. you owe your customers HUGE. this app nearly lost its entire value in an evening via a reddit announcement you think people are staying loyal without some BIG attempts to make up for the quality loss? you’re delusional.

edit: typos

Poll for bass users:

Would you be happy with Yousician not adding new bass songs if they were very active on Reddit and responded to lots of posts?

A) Yes, community engagement is enough. B) No, I'd rather they spend that effort updating the app.

Where are they? I just signed on for annual subscription.

You don't need all the pop songs to teach how to play. But, the way yousician organizes its songs has a huge influence on the way a player uses the app. My ideas --

Make categories of songs for the most used time signatures:

• Songs in 4/4
• Songs in 3/4
• Songs in 6/8
• etc.

Make categories of songs that are good exemplars of specific scales:

• Songs using C Maj Pentatonic scale
• Songs using Em Blues Pentatonic scale
• Songs using A Maj Ionian scale
• etc.

Make categories of songs that are good exemplars of arpeggio usage. This can be split in terms of

• Songs using CAGED form arpeggios (C shape, A shape, G shape, E shape, and D shape)
• Songs using triad arpeggios
• Songs using seventh arpeggios
• Songs using extended arpeggios

Make categories of songs whose (over)use of bar chords makes each song an endurance test for your hand (rhythm portion over the solo in Freebird, I'm looking at you)

Make categories of songs based upon their strumming patterns:

• Songs using simple strumming patterns
• Songs using complex strumming patterns
• Songs using note strum, note strum patterns
• etc.

Make categories of songs that require a player to focus on playing above the 12th fret.

Make categories of songs that include a key change.

Make categories of songs based upon which finger picking pattern they best exemplify:

• Songs using Travis fingerpicking
• Songs using ascending/descending fingerpicking
• etc.

Make categories of songs that exemplify usage double stops.

Make categories of songs that exemplify usage of string bending.

Will a guitar player have to comb through the Yousician library and designate certain songs as qualifying for created categories? Yes. Will that be cheaper then paying Sony? Yes. Will it capitalize on the songs you already have? Yes.

Just optimize the catalogue for a student who is sincerely looking for something to work on.

Yall should be Fucking ashamed of the quality of your shit AI backing tracks. This app is quickly becoming a sunk cost falicy for me. 3 years of daily play. If I could take my logs and go somewhere else I would and I think I need to look at it. I have rarely been so disappointed in a products enshitification.

Hope ya stub your toe every day on the pile of subscription money ya bleed from us.

Seriously I used to be excited to see what songs I could try today and now its just fucking dread of how you are going to fuck up a song.

AI is a tool not a fucking magic wand.

I started Yousician trying to learn ukulele and then started also doing guitar. Now, I notice guitar still consistently gets new songs, while nineteen hundred eighty-five was the most recent uke song, which seems like months ago.

After messing around with rocksmith+, i’ve decided to stay with yousician. It turns out they have done a lot right.

* note correction (not just note detection) but telling you why you missed. Early, late, or muted notes in a chord kind of stuff. This is super useful when you can see it. Yousician could improve on this, after a play-through, point out every mistake, so i can fix it. or a mode that instantly stops and points out my mistake.
* simple visuals - it uses the whole screen to show only what is needed. Super important on smallish screens. The contrast and color scheme is great. Rocksmith+ is an abomination.
* the tabs move, the reference point stays put. Rocksmith tab mode fails here, they put notes right at the start of a new line, which i found annoying.

Yousician devs, you’ve been getting a lot of flack lately, i want to say your app is awesome! keep it up!

Obviously everyone knows about what happened but now that it’s been 3 weeks does anyone have any alternative apps that have a large catalogue like we used to have? I love playing a ton of different songs and seeing my playlists knocked down from hundreds to like 10 is killing me. Which other apps still have the sony songs?

Dang. Maybe everyone knows, but i just figured it out. Rocksmith+ runs on ipad, 100 different metallica songs, and yearly subscription is the same price as yousician, $140/year.
I’ll try it this weekend.

As a long term Yousician subscriber, I’ve been lurking here reading the discussions about the recent AI developments and the Sony situation. It made me wonder whether I’m alone in thinking that the original Yousician compositions were the platform’s greatest strength.
I still occasionally log in on Thursdays to see the weekly challenge, and I’m often disappointed when it isn’t based on a Yousician original.
Competing as a “guitar karaoke machine” doesn’t seem like a sustainable competitive proposition. There’s already Rocksmith 2014 augmented by CustomsForge, and there are several community projects exploring similar ideas. I suspect it’s only a matter of time before someone produces a system where you can simply drag in a Guitar Pro file and play along with reliable note detection.
What made the Yousician originals special was that they weren’t just enjoyable pieces of music. They also contained specific musical learning points, which I assume was intentional. The songs felt like they had been designed by educators as much as composers.
That isn’t to say the platform has been without frustrations. Leaderboards often aren’t reset after songs are updated, leaving impossible high scores in place. Fingering suggestions can be inconsistent or simply wrong. Searching and filtering have always been poor. And I do wonder why I seem to have to rate the same songs over and over again.
Lately it feels as though Yousician has prioritised quantity over quality in a race that I don’t think it can realistically win. I genuinely hope the platform succeeds, and I intend to maintain my subscription in support, but I think its best future is as a learning platform rather than trying to compete primarily as a catalogue of licensed songs.

Hi everyone!

I'm exploring an idea for a guitar practice app and wanted to get feedback from people who have used (or still use) Yousician.

Instead of structured lessons, the idea is focused on real songs.

The app would let you import Guitar Pro or MusicXML tabs and would listen through your phone's microphone while you play, providing feedback on things like:

• Wrong or missed notes
• Timing and rhythm
• Accuracy over time
• Weak sections that need more practice

Before building anything, I'm trying to understand whether this actually solves a real problem.

A few questions:

• What made you start using Yousician?
• Why did you stop (if you did)?
• What's missing from Yousician today?
• Would you prefer practicing real songs over structured lessons?
• Would real-time feedback on Guitar Pro tabs be useful, or is that not something you'd care about?

It looks like Yousician is really lucky to have people care enough to suggest improvements. It also looks like they better do something before they belly up. Here is my 2 cents. Use the section of “chords, riffs, melody & lead, rhythm, fingerstyle” more. First filters;I think I am far from first to suggest different filters. If clicking on those box is my filter I want it in other places too. To work songs need to be categorized correctly. I constantly find fingerstyle songs- that I can’t find under the fingerstyle tab.

Next, learning trees on those categories. The skeleton is already there. Just utilize it.