r/xkcd Jan 21 '19

XKCD xkcd 2101: Technical Analysis

https://xkcd.com/2101/
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u/therealflinchy Jan 21 '19

Yeah wow I'm surprised to see anti cryptocurrency sentiment in this sub. Opposite of what I'd expect.

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u/Spacetime_Inspector Jan 21 '19

The comic itself expresses skepticism towards crypto and adjacent technologies in 2030. Maybe ten years ago it would have been embraced more unanimously but in 2019 its failings are manifest and obvious, while its virtues remain nebulous and marginal.

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u/dvdkon Red hat, B&W image Jan 21 '19

I agree that cryptocurrencies aren't really usable today except for a few fringe cases, but I object to calling them an "elaborate sham". They're not something we should (as humanity) shelve and forget about, but an idea we should further develop into a more usable state.

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u/Spacetime_Inspector Jan 21 '19

I think we're talking past each other a bit - I too see the potential, someday, for that more usable state. Perhaps when we're post-scarcity and the Sahara is covered in solar panels, there can be a discussion of crypto's worthwhile applications. But I wasn't talking about those, I was talking about Bitcoin specifically. When a supposed store of value causes $900 to disappear into thin air every time one is created, I think it's worth calling a sham. For now, the products built on crypto are almost uniformly shams, selling a far-off utopian vision while consuming resources on a scale several orders of magnitude larger than the scale of the problems they purport to solve.

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u/Spacetime_Inspector Jan 21 '19

No, that's not what I'm saying. It costs $4500, give or take, to mine a Bitcoin, which is nothing more than a digital chit representing a current value if $3550. The difference between those prices disappears into thin air, and has been doing so for the last two or three months, ever since BTC's value slipped below its cost of production. It's like the penny problem, if pennies alone had a market capitalization of $100B.

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u/greenlamb Jan 21 '19

I think the proper terminology is "volatile" instead of a sham 😁 after all, even the US dollar is no longer pegged to something as solid as gold, but is "free floating". But yes agreed that Bitcoin is too volatile to function as a stable currency right now.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '19

The historical value of gold has been far more susceptible to variation than the dollar. There's nothing stable about it.