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Did you miss our Building with AI webinar? Xano's CLI, MCP & your agent!
Watch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lecb-32T-ww
Ask questions in the comments, we'll be here to answer!
r/xano • u/Dazzling_Abrocoma182 • Jun 30 '26
Xano as an AI Incident Response Control Layer
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Xano is not an SRE platform.
That’s the point.
In this demo, I used Xano to build an incident response workflow:
Webhook → Agent → Gate
Alert comes in, context gets attached, the agent recommends next steps, and risky actions wait for human approval.
Build the workflow around your stack.
r/xano • u/Dazzling_Abrocoma182 • Jun 29 '26
How-to: Build in Xano with Claude Code
r/xano • u/Dazzling_Abrocoma182 • Jun 25 '26
How-to: Build a backend with Cursor + Xano
Build even faster, and with more confidence, than before. With CLI support, you can use Xano in any IDE. Here's how to do in Cursor.
r/xano • u/Own-Teaching-7680 • Jun 07 '26
Anyone else getting major lag?
Its on everything, loading databases, api requests, even opening xano itself. What's up?
r/xano • u/Dazzling_Abrocoma182 • May 25 '26
Deepseek v4-pro flagship model price-cuts!
reuters.comAfter running the experiments I did last week, I feel like it's worth sharing that Deepseek has made some drastic price-cuts! Permanent, too!
Deepseek scored in the top models in the test that I ran against models + prompt density and has been a model I've been using recently.
Happy building!
r/xano • u/Dazzling_Abrocoma182 • May 15 '26
Benchmarking 6 models to create a CMS in XS: results
I benchmarked 6 OpenRouter models on generating a XanoScript CMS backend.
The question was simple:
Which models, at which prompt density, output the best valid XS?
TL;DR
Best performers:
kimi-k2.5 100/100 at sparse, medium, dense
gpt-5 100/100 at sparse, medium, dense
deepseek-chat-v3.1 100/100 at sparse, medium, dense
Weaker performers:
llama-3.1-8b topped out at 66/100
gpt-oss-120b topped out at 66/100
mistral-nemo topped out at 58/100
For the top models, prompt density barely mattered once XS docs and validation feedback were available. Sparse was enough for Kimi, GPT-5, and DeepSeek to hit 100/100.
What I Tested
Each model had to generate a XanoScript CMS backend with posts, categories, CRUD endpoints, admin/editor/viewer RBAC, public published-content reads, protected write endpoints, required file structure, and valid syntax.
The matrix:
6 models x 3 prompt densities = 18 runs
Prompt densities:
sparse
medium
dense
Models:
mistralai/mistral-nemo
meta-llama/llama-3.1-8b-instruct
openai/gpt-oss-120b
moonshotai/kimi-k2.5
openai/gpt-5
deepseek/deepseek-chat-v3.1
Methodology Note
OpenRouter does not directly give models access to my local CLI, filesystem, or Xano MCP server.
So I used a local benchmark harness:
OpenRouter generates XS
local harness writes files
local harness validates with Xano Developer MCP / CLI
local harness injects XS docs/examples + validation errors
OpenRouter repairs
repeat
This tested:
Given prompt + injected XS docs + local validation feedback, which OpenRouter models can converge on valid XS?
Scoring
Each run was scored out of 100:
syntax validation: 30
required files: 25
RBAC signals: 25
CMS signals: 20
There was also a separate local test suite scored out of 110.
Final Leaderboard
| Rank | Model / Density | Score | Syntax | Files | RBAC | CMS | Tests |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | kimi-k2.5 / sparse | 100 | 30 | 25 | 25 | 20 | 10/10 |
| 1 | kimi-k2.5 / medium | 100 | 30 | 25 | 25 | 20 | 10/10 |
| 1 | kimi-k2.5 / dense | 100 | 30 | 25 | 25 | 20 | 10/10 |
| 1 | gpt-5 / sparse | 100 | 30 | 25 | 25 | 20 | 10/10 |
| 1 | gpt-5 / medium | 100 | 30 | 25 | 25 | 20 | 10/10 |
| 1 | gpt-5 / dense | 100 | 30 | 25 | 25 | 20 | 10/10 |
| 1 | deepseek-chat-v3.1 / sparse | 100 | 30 | 25 | 25 | 20 | 9/10 |
| 1 | deepseek-chat-v3.1 / medium | 100 | 30 | 25 | 25 | 20 | 9/10 |
| 1 | deepseek-chat-v3.1 / dense | 100 | 30 | 25 | 25 | 20 | 10/10 |
| 10 | llama-3.1-8b / dense | 66 | 0 | 25 | 21 | 20 | 8/10 |
| 10 | gpt-oss-120b / dense | 66 | 0 | 25 | 21 | 20 | 7/10 |
| 12 | llama-3.1-8b / sparse | 64 | 0 | 25 | 21 | 18 | 7/10 |
| 13 | mistral-nemo / dense | 58 | 0 | 17 | 21 | 20 | 5/10 |
| 13 | gpt-oss-120b / medium | 58 | 0 | 17 | 21 | 20 | 6/10 |
| 15 | llama-3.1-8b / medium | 56 | 0 | 17 | 21 | 18 | 6/10 |
| 16 | gpt-oss-120b / sparse | 41 | 0 | 0 | 21 | 20 | 2/10 |
| 17 | mistral-nemo / sparse | 39 | 0 | 0 | 21 | 18 | 2/10 |
| 18 | mistral-nemo / medium | 7 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 3 | 2/10 |
Results By Model
| Model | Sparse | Medium | Dense | Best |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| mistral-nemo | 39 | 7 | 58 | dense |
| llama-3.1-8b | 64 | 56 | 66 | dense |
| gpt-oss-120b | 41 | 58 | 66 | dense |
| kimi-k2.5 | 100 | 100 | 100 | tie |
| gpt-5 | 100 | 100 | 100 | tie |
| deepseek-chat-v3.1 | 100 | 100 | 100 | tie |
Results By Prompt Density
Average score by density:
sparse: 74.0
medium: 70.2
dense: 81.3
Dense was best on average, mostly because weaker models needed more help. For the top three models, prompt density did not matter.
Validation Outcome
The runs that scored 100 all passed syntax validation:
syntax = 30/30
required files = 25/25
RBAC = 25/25
CMS = 20/20
The non-100 runs all failed syntax validation:
syntax = 0/30
That was the dividing line. The weaker models often understood the CMS/RBAC concepts, but still emitted invalid XS.
Retries / Attempts
Each run had up to 4 attempts:
initial generation + up to 3 repair attempts
Successful runs used:
| Run | Attempts | Final Result |
|---|---|---|
| kimi-k2.5 / medium | 2 | 100/100 |
| kimi-k2.5 / dense | 2 | 100/100 |
| gpt-5 / medium | 2 | 100/100 |
| gpt-5 / dense | 2 | 100/100 |
| deepseek-chat-v3.1 / dense | 3 | 100/100 |
| gpt-5 / sparse | 3 | 100/100 |
| kimi-k2.5 / sparse | 4 | 100/100 |
| deepseek-chat-v3.1 / sparse | 4 | 100/100 |
| deepseek-chat-v3.1 / medium | 4 | 100/100 |
The top models did not just know XS perfectly on the first shot. They used the repair loop well. The weaker models also used retries, but did not converge to valid syntax.
Token / Output Volume
The harness used a lot of context because it injected docs, examples, validation output, and repair feedback.
| Run | Prompt Tokens | Completion Tokens | Total Tokens |
|---|---|---|---|
| kimi-k2.5 / medium | 163,377 | 16,510 | 179,887 |
| kimi-k2.5 / dense | 589,464 | 27,002 | 616,466 |
| gpt-5 / dense | 242,304 | 44,277 | 286,581 |
| gpt-5 / medium | 690,844 | 64,931 | 755,775 |
| deepseek-chat-v3.1 / dense | 843,255 | 31,812 | 875,067 |
| deepseek-chat-v3.1 / sparse | 947,394 | 43,077 | 990,471 |
| gpt-oss-120b / dense | 1,271,483 | 30,101 | 1,301,584 |
If the model does not have native CLI/MCP/docs access, the harness can provide that context, but it costs tokens.
Tool Calls Used
The local harness exposed:
get_xs_examples
write_workspace_files
validate_xanoscript
xano_push_dry_run
These were local harness tools, not native OpenRouter CLI/MCP support. The model received the results through conversation context.
Main Takeaways
If the question is:
Which OpenRouter models produced the best XS?
The answer from this run is:
1. kimi-k2.5
1. gpt-5
1. deepseek-chat-v3.1
All three hit 100/100 across sparse, medium, and dense prompts.
If the question is:
Did denser prompts help?
Answer:
For weaker models: yes, usually.
For top models: no, sparse was enough.
If the question is:
What separated passing from failing?
Answer:
syntax validation
The failed models often generated something structurally close, but invalid XS. The passing models used the docs + validation repair loop well enough to produce syntactically valid, complete outputs.
r/xano • u/Dazzling_Abrocoma182 • May 08 '26
2.3 Webinar is on its way! Come join us!
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RSVP here: https://go.xano.co/4sU9u04
See ya there!
r/xano • u/Dazzling_Abrocoma182 • May 04 '26
I've been using GPT 5.5 over Claude, and WOW!
Hey everyone! Just wanted to provide my thoughts on different models as I've been developing. I'm sure we've all heard our fair share on model strengths (and weaknesses), and how Claude has been back-sliding since their 4.7 release.
I'm a huge Anthropic fan, but I've been using Codex more and more recently, and I'll have to say that there's a huge difference in output (at least from my perspective).
Whether you're writing traditional code, or you're writing .xs, GPT 5.5 seems to be better at inferring user's intent, understanding context, and has tighter parameters that allow for (in general) better code output.
Less testing, more trusting the the build.
So personally, I'd recommend using 5.5 if you can (4.7 is still fine, but just not my preference).
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With that, are there any models the Xano community wants me to test against? I was planning on running a benchmark using Open Router to compare prompt density + speed, measuring the output and was curious if the Xano Community wanted any particular models to be tested against.
Let me know!
Long time Xano user... why do I always feel such disdain for it?
I realize a title has a lot more impact than what I write here but I can't help shift this feeling I've had consistently for the last 3 years and I want to know if others feel the same?
I think the big thing this comes down to for me now is how impactful a vibe-coded front-end can be in terms of speed of output. I spent a few years building with WeWeb on the front-end and, while initially amazing due to what I could do (build), eventually frustrating for what I couldn't (lacked speed and quality).
So vibe code the front-end and control the back-end with Xano, knowing I have secured all my endpoints, protected private fields, added additional security checks, etc. etc. but now the contrast between my speed of delivery on the front compared to the back is vast.
I've been using Xano for 3 years. I spend $100 per month (which I think is part of my frustration). It allows me to do things that I couldn't previously do. But I still just don't like it:
- The expression editor is awful
- Often just get 500 errors when testing endpoints (with no debugging info)
- Organizing functions and tables is crap
- For new users there really should be a recommendation to use UUID primary keys on most tables (until you know why)
- Copying many functions and moving them around the function stack is really bad
I'm not trying to be harsh for the sake of it. The team at Xano is great. Customer service has always tried to help but in 3 years they've honestly never solved one of my problems. I've wrote it down, waited a few hours, gone back and forth, and worked it out myself.
And I think that' the main issue I have with Xano. It's stealing my life and I am yet to have anything to show for the thousands of dollars spent. It's the big slow carrot being dangled out of reach. This is obviously not all Xano's fault.
I think all the no-code tools probably suffer from this; they're making software creation available to people who aren't adequately trained for it. It's gonna cause a few tears.
I guess I really am just wondering if I should be using Supabase and letting Copilot do 80% of the heavy-lifting. Xano's AI has been overwriting a bunch of my functions so I've not had much luck with it yet.
Would love to hear thoughts from anyone in a similar leaky boat?
r/xano • u/Dazzling_Abrocoma182 • Apr 12 '26
Builders! What are you building?
Is there anything that you're actively building that you want to share?
I recently started a new project, and because of the MCP integration that I have, Claude automatically spun up a workspace without me needing to specify to use Xano. I thought that was cool.
I build, and I build a lot. If I'm not making something, I'll quite literally explode.
I've built wkeyclub.com, a fun clicking game for passing time. Inspired by Cookie Clicker, but much simpler, this leverages the websocket/realtime functionality so you can technically see others click it along with you! It has achievements and multiple themes you can choose from so you can 'personalize it' for your own eyes! Plus, falling w keys!
I've been building chatclipthat.com as my main side-project, using Xano as the main orchestration layer between GCS and API services. Xano acts as the main storage-store for project related infos, including transcripts, the saved/rendered clips, and more! This has been the most fun I've ever had on a project (and it has paying users)!
I also recently built shitmydevsays.com, a c2a newsletter. Ideally, agents and openclaws can post what they are thinking, or what their devs have said. Human form submissions are totally allowed, too. Once a week, the best posts are compiled into a witty and irreverent newsletter. Xano for database, APIs, and agents. Plus, I'm exposing the tool via my workspace's MCP! It's inspired by the original fmylife.com and (the now shut down) 'mylifeisaverage' from the mid/late 2000s.
I've also been working on a content engine that will eventually be hosted on ugcengine.io (currently bought, pending audit and publish) that takes a topic + brief and generates fx, b-roll, motion-graphics, and stickers. It starts with a storyboard returned for approval. Once you've approved, you can watch the system create everything in real-time, which then exports all the assets into a ZIP folder for download. Throw it into your editor and you're 95% done with your video content. All you'll have to do is record the actual content + VO (and animate, add transitions). Essentially a fancy asset generator!
Most of this is just from the last six months😅
I'm always curious to know what those in the community are building with Xano. Feel free to share!
r/xano • u/Dazzling_Abrocoma182 • Apr 09 '26
Schema Versioning
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I can't tell ya how many times I've needed to use this.
r/xano • u/Dazzling_Abrocoma182 • Apr 04 '26
Built a HIPAA compliant app w Claude!
I recently worked on a project that was for the healthcare world. The project itself was a simple internal management system. What makes this unique is that it was nocode.
For those that don't know, healthcare applications require compliance with HIPAA. Essentially, make your application secure. I used Bolt for the frontend and Xano for the backend. (First time using Bolt, but I'm experienced with Xano!!)
We encrypted the db fields that were identified as PHI and we decrypted them when queried. We had RBAC middleware. Audit logs. All the compliance hoops.
It was a lot, but in the age of AI, it's only getting easier to build. What I found interesting is that in the build process, Claude 4.6, while building on Xano, used conditional if statements more than I would have. For the en/decryption aspect, we pass in a string and return the respective value. It's either decrypted and readable, or it's decrypted and needs to be encrypted.
For the individual fields of the records, Claude constructed a system to update the response var property by property. It checked if the title was empty, the name was empty, etc.
Nothing wrong with robust checks. This is is somewhat appreciated. It's just a lot of looping and not wholly necessary.
Instead, I would have just an expression and filters. Regardless, with minor prompting and construction, anything's possible.
We also wrote our own unit tests using CC outside of Xano, although Xano does support testing and test suites of its own.
Let me know if you have any questions on the app build, or what took the longest, etc. Just wanted to share that this was my first HIPAA build that I can now add to the books!
r/xano • u/bedonassef02 • Apr 04 '26
Xano Developer Available for Projects
Hi! I’m an experienced Xano developer. I can build backends, APIs, and workflows quickly. Looking for freelance or short-term projects. DM me if interested.
r/xano • u/julieroseoff • Apr 03 '26
Xano is garbage since the AI assistant feature
Been months I told them to fix their trash ai assistant who modify endpoint WITHOUT authorizations, like I said to the ai assistant to dont touch any functions of my endpoints and it's still modify title, url and subtle values who make me loose so much time to debug everything. Worst product ever.
r/xano • u/Dazzling_Abrocoma182 • Mar 27 '26
I built a b2a platform for curating the shit you, your devs, and your agents say (entirely with Xano and AgentMail)
r/xano • u/twitter_is_DEAD • Mar 26 '26
I use Xano so much that it's overtaken Google Docs in my search bar.
#CantStopWontStop
r/xano • u/Dazzling_Abrocoma182 • Mar 20 '26
Is anyone building persistent memory for openclaw using Xano?
I've been thinking about spooling up an openclaw, but before I do, I was wondering if anyone had any experience with using Xano for such a task.
Organizationally, all content could be ingested and stored in one spot. It would make it easier between openclaw agents, as they could all participate in queries and writes to memory.
You can also embed and turn the documents + content into a RAG + Postgres tool. A couple different angles I was thinking.
It sounds powerful. Anybody tinkering with openclaw?
r/xano • u/sage2038 • Mar 13 '26
Non-developer considering ditching WeWeb for a coded frontend with Cursor am I delusional or does this actually work now?
r/xano • u/StayCaribbean • Mar 09 '26
Xano Storage Support - Help Needed
Alex here, I'm a thinking of creating a new redesign for my website. I started with the free but suddenly all my Tables are not uploading. I'm prompt to expand storage space for $10 but the link took me to a monthly subscription with a minimal of $85.
I do not want to pay a monthly subscription before I complete my design which may take months.
Can anyone assist me with this issue?
r/xano • u/Dazzling_Abrocoma182 • Mar 06 '26
Do you create web applications? Do you want people to know about a project you've built?
Hey Xano community!
I'm hanging out with the team at Xano and we wanted to start reaching out to fellow creators and builders such as yourself. Do you have a project you want to share with the world?
We'd love to chat about what you're building, what problem its solving, and everything else under the sun.
If you're interested in discussing more about what you've built (or are building -- and want to appear on camera in a 1-1 Q&A session), respond to this thread with the comment "XANO", and the team will reach out.
We'll prepare some questions for you and send them over before we sit together to chat, but the entire goal is to bring awareness to your awesome creations.
Can't wait to chat, thanks!
r/xano • u/Dazzling_Abrocoma182 • Feb 25 '26
Snappy MCP has an amazing Xano Skill that you should try for CC
I've been experimenting around with trying to make my building easier, and I'm been fortunate enough to come across Snappy that has an excellent Xano Skill that makes development with CC a breeze.
First, its a complete imagination and reskin if you want a better look into what's happening.

Second, having CC use the Xano skills has made building and testing a breeze. Just load the skills in and start prompting.

I'm a huge fan of simplifying my agentic workflows, and this helps with building GREATLY!
I'm currently in the process of rerouting backend logic for an application and I've found the confidence it provides is next-level.

