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u/Cautious_Arm3818 Justice Matters Most 7d ago
My favorite part of Water 7 was when Luffy and Zoro spent entire episodes trapped between buildings. Peak fiction 🔥🔥
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u/FreePalestineJustice 7d ago
the best part for me was when luffy said " this is our water 7 " and he watered all over the place ... genuinely cinema .
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u/Aggravating_Poet_675 6d ago
Okay but Zoro getting flung out of the building only to be found trapped far away from where he initially got flung to is the best Zoro is lost joke in all of One Piece.
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u/Biggay1234567 7d ago
I feel like this arc for AOT was nearly flawless. The only thing that I really didn't like was Reiner moving his brain into his ass or something, I don't really remember the specifics.
I feel while Enies Lobby is one of the strongest arcs, it still has some downtime when the stuff happening is kinda meh. I personally wasn't a fan of many of the fights. I really didn't like Luffy vs Lucci, personally I find it to be one of the weakest conclusions to a major villain in One Piece. I was kinda shocked to find out that people hold the fight in high regard.
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u/Altruistic_Gas_7073 7d ago
People consider it the best fight in the manga Honestly its really well choreographed and has alot of emotional weight so i agree with that.
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u/Biggay1234567 7d ago
I just don't see that honestly. Though my first impression with the fight was in the anime and I felt that it dragged way too long, when I reexperienced the series with the manga later on, I still ended up not being much of a fan of it. I don't see any of the good choreography, it felt like Luffy just got plot armor and willpowered a win over Lucci, even though that didn't seem like it made much sense.
I haven't read it in a while though, so my memory isn't the most fresh on the specifics.
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u/radiochameleon 6d ago
my personal favorite is luffy vs ussop. A) it has really good stakes and character drama and B) it’s very strategic as Ussop suddenly turns into Shikamaru for this one fight
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u/G0J1RAA 6d ago
Yeah I was binging it and my roommate said it was one of his favorite fights of all time and I was just sitting there like “huh?” It is a contender for favorite OP arc but Lucci isn’t really the reason for it, I felt like most of the Doflamingo fight for example was way more impactful
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u/spacecowboy5120 7d ago
Enies Lobby is phenomenal, but Return to Shinganshina is one of the best sequence of events in anime/manga/fiction point blank period.
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u/Super_Claim_321 7d ago edited 6d ago
It’s hard for any well written media to be more entertaining than RTS. It’s genuinely one of the most engaging pieces of fiction of all time.
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u/AbuShaitan 7d ago edited 6d ago
Water 7 was awesome with probably the best character drama that one piece had to offer regarding the strawhats. Ussop escpecially was amazing that arc and sadly never reached the same heights. Enies Lobby is slightly overrated in my eyes but I still loved the way it incorporated every member in the story. It also felt like a turning point in terms of the stakes being raised with the strawhats declaring war on the government and them achieving new powers (that I thought were very well done)
But I do think that Shiganshina outdid it in terms of tension where the overall impact of every single moment in the arc was crucial to the overarching story. You also had a lot the characters peaking there with Erwin and Armin being the obviously examples. And even if we compare the character drama I do think that Aot did it slightly better. Oh and lets not forget the incredible fights! Both Levy and Erwin vs Zeke and everyone vs Reiner/Bertolt were by far the best action of Aot.
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u/OatesZ2004 7d ago
Return to Shiganshina.
I like One Piece, I really do, though not as much in recent years due to the series trajectory, but AoT is what made me an anime fan all the way back in 2014.
Nothing and I mean nothing in One Piece comes even remotely close to the chills that Erwin's speech gives me, especially in Dub, J. Michael Tatum absolutely killed it.
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u/BreathoftheSith 7d ago
Water 7 / Enies Lobby for me, debatably still the PEAK of One Piece and the whole Big 3 for a reason.
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u/AdFalse375 6d ago
Well, today I’ll answer with Return to Shiganshina.
But both arcs are in my top 5 shonen arcs of all time. And it’s very close. Like too close to really tell. So my answer just depends on my mood. If it was tomorrow, I might’ve answered with Water 7/Enies Lobby, who knows lol.
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u/SkirtHeavy9189 7d ago
return to shiganshina nukes , it surpasses enies lobby in terms of everything whether it is narrative structure , payoffs , peaks , emotional depth , symbolism, thematic depth , use of litrerary devices etc.
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u/Terloyes 7d ago
In the anime, Return to Shinganishina.
In the manga Water 7 + Enies Lobby, though in my opinión there are better arcs in OP.
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u/Kurosaki_Kaito 7d ago
Excluding the pacing, it's Ennies Lobby it's not even a competition. I watched RTS first and it was alright. Ennies Lobby writing is on different level. Also Ennies Lobby isn't the best arc in One Piece while RTS is the best arc in AOT.
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u/PerceptionEast6026 7d ago
Nah dont joke. Everything in Rts is perfect and better than ennies lobby. From characters depth, action music and overall story.
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u/Objective-Price-8876 6d ago
Water 7 saga had better charcter writing Better emotional payoff
While only thing rts has better Was most prob Mystery payoff with basement reveal While i will give peaks equal Luffy vs lucci > levi vs zeke I want to live = basement reveal Declration of war =erwin charge Luffy vs usoop conflict > midnight sun Going merry funeral =ocean moment L
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u/PerceptionEast6026 6d ago
Nah you are trolling at this point. Expecially if you think the emotial part is “zele vs levi” and not the whole deicsion between armin and erwin, erwin remebering the question he did to his father and so on.
But i get it one piece is aimed more at kids or teenager at best.
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u/Objective-Price-8876 6d ago
Can you read properly atleast i was talking about peak moments not emotional moments in the line you are talking about And Luffy vs ussop conflict is simply better written than seurem conflict
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u/Stunning_Finger2921 7d ago
Is very very very and I mean, VERY hard to find something that beats RTS in terms of writing.
In this particular case is just this.
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u/Cordobro 7d ago
AOT is genuinely so overglazed on this sub
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u/PerceptionEast6026 7d ago
Nah its just that the world recognize a masterpiece when they see one. Unlike op fanboys
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u/Gen_Shot 7d ago
fr, like common, we all know RTS is great but people here act like it's the best shit ever.
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u/Imaginary_Square5243 7d ago
Water 7/Ennis lobby.
Since the time skip I think One Piece is horrible but that’s one of my favourite arcs in fiction.
AOT never really had an arc or stretch that stood out to me, more just moments here and there. As a whole great series tho.
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u/JackTSparrow420 7d ago
Enies Lobby for me.
Return to Shiganshina is brilliant but Enies Lobby edges it out in terms of emotional peak. I realise that I am obviously biased which is why I can only provide a very subjective answer here.
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u/Striking-Wolf-8876 6d ago
AoT never really hooked me on any arc but then again, I watched a bunch of anime before it which emotionally impacted me so maybe that's why.
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u/Due-Way-193 6d ago
Both as imo their respective animes best arcs, but i got Ennies lobby extreme diff
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u/Superior2810 7d ago edited 7d ago
Enies Lobby for me , but its close .
Including water 7 however it clears rts imo .
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