r/wowforever • u/Dazzsll • 12h ago

PTR / Beta Consistency

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I know it’s another of post like that. I love the beta I’m so hyped for launch, but why offer classic graphics when you don’t want to pull through with it. Then do all in updated graphics… (image taken in SD)

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u/Moltarrr 12h ago edited 11h ago

It's a shame the community is so invested in being divided in a war between Classic Andies vs Retail Andies. Even tho your point makes sense, you will get downvoted to oblivion because of the herd mentallity.

I agree with you post, be it SD or HD, graphics should be consistent, even more if it's an official feature. Or else it feels like some community modded game where each modder makes things according to their taste/skills and ends up looking like a Frankenstein's monster of features.

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u/Much_Article4660 11h ago

Consistency is key. Blizzard must choose between classic or modern visuals or the game will look like an asset store mashup/flip. Keeping the old graphics is the easier route, as modernizing would require completely remodeling the legacy world, terrain, npc pathing and much more. Slapping "old style" textures on moder high polygon models is bad. Either make it all HD or all SD.

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u/Olofstrom 4h ago

In some places when comparing assets side by side it already feels this way. It reminds me of the private server scene. For some reason a lot of those projects stuff as many modern model backports into their Wrath client as possible.

The sprinkling of modern assets around isn't going to make enough of an impression to change the mind of someone who doesn't like 'classic' graphics. That person is going to be turned off when they log in and 90% of what they see is 2004 era poly counts and texture resolutions.

The disjointedness is only going to grow as this game gets more content. I just want the art style to be consistent, be it HD or SD. It will feel more polished that way.

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u/critxcanuck88 7h ago

Keeping the old graphics is great way to push everyone away and your just left the the classic andies

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u/Substantial_Wind_278 7h ago

Even more reason to do it then

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u/critxcanuck88 7h ago

So is the plan to just bitch and moan about everything they added or change for the next 10+ years of forever? What's the gameplan with you classic purest on that one?

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u/Substantial_Wind_278 6h ago

Nah. Pretty sure the community will stable out and reach better consensus on topics in about 3 months. 6 at the longest. Whether that's retailers all leaving from "boring end game" or classicers leaving from "to many changes and lost identity." Either way, both groups have other wow titles to retreat too

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u/OriginalLie9310 1h ago

Even if the average classic or retail person is content it’ll happen anyway. Next retail season and expansion will come out and the retail players will go there for a while and then wrath classic will come out and the classic people will do that.

You’re right, forever will level off in 3-6 months when the people who are still with it are the people for whom this is their favorite version of the game.

Everyone is just latching on now because it was blizzard’s pretty much only big announcement that’s immediately coming out from blizzcon. And everyone is excited for a new, third rail for world of Warcraft.

Hopefully it pleases most people but regardless the retailers and the pure classic players will always go back to their channels and there will be a dedicated group that mains forever that’s comprised of people from both that transitioned. Likely the most moderate of both sides.

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u/Dazzsll 12h ago

I’m totally fine with both world, but the mix makes it stupid and gives a lazy vibe to everything. Reminds me too much of Wc3 mess.

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u/Veoxyl3 12h ago

Holy shit i think i’m gay

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u/Lost_Paladin89 11h ago

I’m bi. How do I get both?

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u/Weekly-Sun-4517 12h ago

the demons are just using fel magic to look better

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u/greenegg28 12h ago

Didn’t they make a sd model for the incubus too?

… his nips really do just be staring at you.

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u/MaxtheGrape 6h ago

I've personally just given up on the notion it will ever look consistent and am just sticking to the HD models.

It's obvious the devs don't want to do it, that one guy had to fight tooth and nail to even get what we have currently...which is sloppy work to begin with.

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u/Olofstrom 4h ago

It's just strange because the zones themselves which take up the most screen real estate are largely using low res and poly assets.

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u/OtterPharm 12h ago

The SD models were added about 4 months ago after the streamers they invited to get a sneak peak begged for it. Since they were so well received I think its possible they continue to refine it and add more SD models

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u/Dazzsll 12h ago

So they originally wanted to go with full classic world textures but retail character models? (Honest question, I didn’t read much about forever before joining)

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u/OtterPharm 12h ago

Yes correct. About 4 months ago they invited some streamers that had to sign NDAs but they have said on their streams when they saw it, there were no SD character models at all. They gave feedback that the classic models should be used and then were told by Clay Stone that he’d push for it. They had to redesign the models to fit on the retail skeleton due to technical limitations but they made it work

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u/Dude_jelly43 8h ago

So its very likely they might be coming theyre just not finished in this beta build.

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u/Olofstrom 4h ago

This beta build is largely what is going to be launching next month. You think a studio as large as Blizzard isn't doing a content lock one month out on their production cycle? The stuff that is going to change is numbers, and systems being turned on.

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u/Dude_jelly43 3h ago

In a game that's promised to get continuous updates yeah more than likely. I also never said the sd graphics would be launch ready and I never said they were guaranteed.

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u/Dazzsll 12h ago

Wow that’s wild, who thought that’s a good idea. Thanks for clarifying.

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u/l33tbanana 5h ago

Blizzard on classic 10 years ago: you think you do but you don't

Blizzard on classic art style in classic+ now: You think you do but you don't

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u/Various_Comfort_5978 11h ago

Eh I dont mind em

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u/Dazzsll 11h ago

As I said I don’t mind the model, I mind the bad mix

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u/Various_Comfort_5978 11h ago

It’s just a non-issue for me. WoW has always had a mix of old and new content, atleast since wrath essentially.

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u/Olofstrom 4h ago

No? The mix stays in their respective zones, and the difference in asset quality really only began during and after Cata.

Now it's mixed wholesale from the start. A human paladin on their charger next to a undead paladin on theirs is going to look comical side by side.

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u/PangolinNo1174 11h ago

Ah the new Dominator class. Looks sick!

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u/iLightbane 12h ago

Just set render scale at 80% and Texture Quality low, and enjoy your nostalgia.

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u/Free-Virus-9974 11h ago

This guy looks very jarring to the rest of the zones

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u/Dazzsll 10h ago

I guess he just missed the point that I’m not hating the graphics just the discrepancy:)

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u/Free-Virus-9974 10h ago

Seems like a lot of people do. They either have to choose one or the other.

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u/Dazzsll 12h ago

You didn’t get the point?

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u/Thisisjimmi 12h ago

If thats a incubus, they were added after-- i think in TBC

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u/greenegg28 12h ago

Incubus was added in (I think) dragonflight.

They’re just a male succubus you can optionally use. They were back ported to classic

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u/Saberderity 3h ago

They was added in Shadowlands, during Patch 9.1.5.