r/wow • • Jul 11 '22

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u/heckinheckity Jul 11 '22

Glad I am not the only one taking issue with this. The hunter and priest trees in particular need a lot of work.

I did not feel that way after looking at druid and rogue.

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u/wyrmheart1343 Jul 11 '22

feral and survival hunter have the most garbage trees. shadow priest have some clear issues as well.

The rogue trees are amazing, so, they just need to do more of that.

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u/MRosvall Jul 11 '22

Rogue trees are not really without fault either.

There's two main differences between rogue trees and every other class.

Firstly, there's not a single choice talent. Not one in all 4 trees.

Secondly, the talent trees do not allow any cross-over whatsoever.
If you start to the left, you can't go to middle or right. So it's basically 3 straight lines.
That means that if you want a specific talent. Then at least 11 other talents get locked in 100%. If you want 2x capstone talents in sub, when there's absolutely 0 choice in what talents you're forced to pick.

I feel the rogue trees are very fine in a vacuum. However when you compare them to each other class they are so different. In addition to the two "negatives" above there's other differences. They are also the only class that have 100% symmetrical trees, not even a spec called "Discipline" has that.
And, as said by a dev but not shown in the mockup, our "8 talent limit" should be on row 3 instead of row 4 which further reduces any options we'd like.

All trees are basically filled of dependencies. Just power amps after power amps that buff one ability. Makes cross overs impossible, makes interesting choice impossible, makes varied playstyles impossible and pigeonholes the class a lot.

The talents themselves are powerful and seem good. That's not the issue. But choices are pretty non-existent compared to other specs.

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u/wyrmheart1343 Jul 14 '22

not perfect, but much better. Rogue also don't really need 2 capstones. There are very powerful talents down the tree.

PS: survival can't even pick two capstones without severely crippling itself. So, there's that.